History YMMV / TheElderScrollsOnline

15th Jul '17 10:46:28 PM Dawnwing
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** When the Wild Hunt crates came out with the first furnishing items, players discovered a glitch in the Crown Store's "preview" mode that became highly popular: if you preview a pet or mount, then a furnishing, and then make your character walk, it will show the pet you looked at in the place of your character, and you can run around Tamriel as a wolf pup or senche cub or similar creature.

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** When the Wild Hunt crates came out with the first furnishing items, players discovered a glitch in the Crown Store's "preview" mode that became highly popular: if you preview a pet or mount, then a furnishing, and then make your character walk, it will show the pet you looked at in the place of your character, and you can run around Tamriel as a wolf pup or senche cub or similar creature. Sadly this was later fixed.
22nd Jun '17 8:43:38 PM Dawnwing
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*** Dwemer Crown Crates. Not only was this third season of the crates heavily weighted toward Bal Foyen Nix-Hounds, but it also included 4 ''extra-rare'' Apex rewards that can't be bought with gems - meaning that unlike normal Apex rewards, you can't just keep buying crates until you save up enough gems to get what you want; you ''have'' to be lucky enough to get it from the crate.

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*** Dwemer Crown Crates. Not only was this third season of the crates heavily weighted toward Bal Foyen Nix-Hounds, but it also included 4 ''extra-rare'' Apex rewards that can't be bought with gems - meaning that unlike normal Apex rewards, you can't just keep buying crates until you save up enough gems to get what you want; you ''have'' to be lucky enough to get it from the crate. Needless to say, many players were unhappy about this.
22nd Jun '17 8:42:49 PM Dawnwing
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*** Dwemer Crown Crates. Not only was this third season of the crates heavily weighted toward Bal Foyen Nix-Hounds, but it also included 4 ''extra-rare'' Apex rewards that can't be bought with gems - meaning that unlike normal Apex rewards, you can't just keep buying crates until you save up enough gems to get what you want; you ''have'' to be lucky enough to get it from the crate.
20th Jun '17 7:40:07 PM Dawnwing
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** Naryu Virian from the Ebonheart Pact is so popular that players are demanding she be brought back in a future storyline. She's a member of the [[MurderInc Morag Tong]], and easily one of the funniest and most amusing characters this side of Razum-Dar. She openly flirts with the player character on occasion ([[BiTheWay regardless of gender]]), and of course, she's a total badass who is one of the very few genuinely useful NPC allies you can have in battle. Zenimax is perfectly aware of her popularity, as they've actually stated they might bring her back sometime, and you can actually buy her outfit to wear for yourself in the Crown Store. With the announcement of the ''Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind'' expansion pack, they are delivering on this promise: not only is she confirmed to be the {{deuteragonist}} of the main storyline, she starred in the reveal trailer, in full cinematic glory.

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** Naryu Virian from the Ebonheart Pact is became so popular that players are demanding demanded she be brought back in a future storyline. She's a member of the [[MurderInc Morag Tong]], and easily one of the funniest and most amusing characters this side of Razum-Dar. She openly flirts with the player character on occasion ([[BiTheWay regardless of gender]]), and of course, she's a total badass who is one of the very few genuinely useful NPC allies you can have in battle. Zenimax is perfectly Zenimax, aware of her popularity, as they've actually stated they might bring her back sometime, and you can actually buy made her outfit to wear for yourself purchasable in the Crown Store. With the announcement of the Store, and brought her back for the ''Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind'' expansion pack, they are delivering on this promise: pack: not only is she confirmed to be the {{deuteragonist}} of the main storyline, but she also starred in the reveal trailer, in full cinematic glory.glory, had a series of gameplay videos introducing you to different aspects of Vvardenfell, the book in the physical collector's edition was her journal, and there was even a Funko Pop figure of her released.



* GrowingTheBeard: The game had a really rough launch, but it gradually gained traction through positive changes such as the addition of the Justice System. The One Tamriel update in fall 2016 - which made everything scale to your level like the DLC zones were doing and which made it so that you can travel anywhere without having to get to the end of a questline to unlock the other faction zones - was the main turning point that changed former naysayers' opinions on the game. Overall it went from mixed (at best) opinions at launch to one of the most popular MMOs out there.



** "The Elk", which quickly became ESO's equivalent of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion's]] Horse Armor DLC among the fans. Fans were aware that the Elk mount was coming since it had been datamined, and many people were excited for it. Mounts typically cost 900 to the more common 1800 in the store, with limited-time mounts almost always being 2,500 Crowns. When the Great Elk Mount was released, it cost ''4,500'' Crowns. The most expensive mount previously was the Dro'Mathra Senche, which was 4,000, and featured unique glowing markings, glowing pawprints when it ran, and unique animations including the summoning animation. The elk re-used the horse skeleton and animations and it also did not have the "visual upgrades" that most mounts give you when you've leveled up your riding skills enough. Again, this mount is the most expensive at the equivalent of ''$45 USD'', more than double the price of the [=DLCs=] (which have actual content), and has ''less'' features than the other mounts in the game.

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** "The Elk", which quickly became ESO's equivalent of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion's]] Horse Armor DLC among the fans. Fans were aware that the Elk mount was coming since it had been datamined, and many people were excited for it. Mounts typically cost 900 to the more common 1800 in the store, with limited-time mounts almost always being 2,500 Crowns. When the Great Elk Mount was released, it cost ''4,500'' Crowns. The most expensive mount previously was the Dro'Mathra Senche, which was 4,000, and featured unique glowing markings, glowing pawprints when it ran, and unique animations including the summoning animation. The elk re-used the horse skeleton and animations and it also did not have the "visual upgrades" visual upgrades (armor, saddlebags, etc) that most mounts give you when you've leveled up your riding skills enough. Again, this mount is was the most expensive at the time of its release, at the equivalent of ''$45 USD'', USD'': more than double the price of the [=DLCs=] (which have actual content), and has ''less'' features than the other mounts in the game.



** The nerfs that came with the Morrowind expansion. They wanted to stop players from getting unlimited resources (as mentioned under GoodBagBugs above, players could set it up so that they'd never run out of magicka, for instance) and wanted to make players choose between damage and sustain. To add fuel to the fire, the Warden class was getting released with ESO, so many players incorrectly assumed that they were nerfing the base-game classes to make the Warden the most powerful, essentially pay-to-win. Players flooded sites with downvotes and negative reviews, not to mention piles of threads on the official forum, only to discover when it actually came out that it wasn't that bad and that Wardens weren't any more or less powerful than the other classes.



** On the official ESO forum, patch notes are almost always called "Natch Potes" (sometimes [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] as "[[http://s4.imgload.info/cydnz175yjjf254.jpg netch poots]]") - even the devs jokingly call them "natch potes" on a regular basis.

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** On the official ESO forum, patch notes are almost always called "Natch Potes" Potes", even by the devs, due to a typo a user made (sometimes [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] as "[[http://s4.imgload.info/cydnz175yjjf254.jpg netch poots]]") - even the devs jokingly call them "natch potes" on a regular basis.poots]]").



** Crown Crates, as described under InternetBackdraft: instead of being able to purchase some things you want directly from the Crown Store, the only way to get them is to spend a lot of money on the Crown Crates (400 per crate) and only have a small chance of getting it (3% and 1% drop rate for the two highest reward tiers - which are where the tiers containing the items people actually want - and you're at the mercy of whatever item it decides to give you), with a pathetic exchange rate if you want to trade in your consumables for Crown Gems to try and purchase the item outright (one crate might get you 4 gems; items from the highest two tiers cost 100 and 400 gems respectively.)

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** Crown Crates, as described under InternetBackdraft: instead of being able to purchase some things you want directly from the Crown Store, the only way to get them is to spend a lot of money on the Crown Crates (400 Crowns - about $4 - per crate) and only have a small chance of getting it (3% and 1% drop rate for the two highest reward tiers - which are where the tiers containing the items people actually want - and you're at the mercy of whatever item it decides to give you), with a pathetic exchange rate if you want to trade in your consumables for Crown Gems to try and purchase the item outright (one crate might get you 4 gems; items from the highest two tiers cost 100 and 400 gems respectively.)



** Signal Fire Zephyr from the New Life Festival; you have to light all 4 signal fires on the upper level of Bergama within 35 seconds. Doesn't seem too bad on paper, but in practice, it ends up being aggravating as you have to stay by the signal fires for 3 seconds each to count, and you may end up with a guard who decided to patrol your route at that exact moment. It's almost impossible without the Steed Stone perk and a skill that grants Expedition, and even then, good luck.

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** Signal Fire Zephyr from the New Life Festival; you have to light all 4 signal fires on the upper level of Bergama within 35 seconds. Doesn't seem too bad on paper, but in practice, it ends up being aggravating as you have to stay by the signal fires for 3 seconds each to count, and you may end up with a guard who decided to patrol your route at that exact moment. It's almost impossible without the Steed Stone perk and a skill that grants Expedition, or other players grouping with you, and even then, good luck.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The choice to make the game a MMO instead of a single player game was the biggest criticism amongst its fans. This is, however, a case of [[{{Misblamed}} Misblaming]], as it's being made by a different studio rather than Bethesda Game Studios and therefore does not affect the release of the main-series single-player games.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The choice to make the game a MMO instead of a main-series single player game was the biggest criticism amongst its fans. This is, however, a case of [[{{Misblamed}} Misblaming]], as it's being made by a different studio rather than Bethesda Game Studios and therefore does not affect the release of the main-series single-player games.
9th Jun '17 9:53:01 PM EvilKid
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* NightmareFuel: The end of the Arrival Trailer has the corrupted Breton and an army of undead take the capital of Cyrodiil by surprise, with Molag Bal's face smiling diabolically in storming clouds in the background.

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* NightmareFuel: The end of the Arrival Trailer has the corrupted Breton [[spoiler:corrupted Breton]] and an army of undead take the capital of Cyrodiil by surprise, with Molag Bal's face smiling diabolically in storming clouds in the background.
14th Mar '17 3:25:54 AM WorstEditorEver
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* CrackIsCheaper: The top tier player houses in Homestead cost over 10,000 crowns ($100). Yes, you can buy them with in-game gold instead, but get ready to grind out '''4,000,000''' for months, and that's if you're lucky. The "Count/Countess" title you can earn in-game by owning all three Alliance estates is basically a way of saying "I Am The 1%" both in-game and out.
7th Mar '17 6:41:03 AM SorPepita
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: To a extent, the High Elf race was. After [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]] where they were both InUniverse and Meta [[TheScrappy scrappies]] (or at least those associated with the Thalmor were), a lot of players enjoyed their quests due to the approach the Thalmor go to to win the trust of their allies (such as basically saving one city when it's attacked) and some likeable High Elf NPC's that stand out.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: To a an extent, the High Elf race was. After [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]] where they were both InUniverse and Meta [[TheScrappy scrappies]] (or at least those associated with the Thalmor were), a lot of players enjoyed their quests due to the approach the Thalmor go to to win the trust of their allies (such as basically saving one city when it's attacked) and some likeable High Elf NPC's that stand out.
7th Mar '17 5:31:10 AM SorPepita
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** Crown Crates. Initially announced as basically being consumables plus a chance to get items that are no longer in the Crown Store with few or no exclusives, and that if you got a duplicate item you'd get credits that could be used later to purchase an item that you want. Turns out Crates are 400 Crowns, with roughly 2/3 of them being crate-exclusive items (meaning you can't just buy it in the store, you have to try your luck). It's a VERY slim chance to get actually desirable items: the "good" items are in the Legendary and Apex tiers, but based on [[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zt5oj7PWNFFaTykgXhWQOOkVl1ekHAJgcJpueRN3C40/edit#gid=0 users tracking drop rates]], Legendary rewards are only a 3% chance of dropping, and Apex-tier are only 1%. You can get "Crown Gems" (which can later be used to purchase the items outright) for duplicate items or for trading in consumables, but the exchange rate is paltry: consumable cards (which you'll get roughly 70% of the time) only give you ''one gem'' for the card, meaning that you can spend 400 Crowns on a crate and only get 4 gems for it. The price of the non-consuamble rewards with the resulting gems (depending on the tier) are 16, 40, 100, and a whopping ''400'' gems for the apex tier. To top it off, it was EnsembleDarkhorse Pacrooti that they chose to "run" it, a character who ''specifically complained'' about being swindled. Backlash ensued.

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** Crown Crates. Initially announced as basically being consumables plus a chance to get items that are no longer in the Crown Store with few or no exclusives, and that if you got a duplicate item you'd get credits that could be used later to purchase an item that you want. Turns out Crates are 400 Crowns, with roughly 2/3 of them being crate-exclusive items (meaning you can't just buy it in the store, you have to try your luck). It's a VERY slim chance to get actually desirable items: the "good" items are in the Legendary and Apex tiers, but based on [[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zt5oj7PWNFFaTykgXhWQOOkVl1ekHAJgcJpueRN3C40/edit#gid=0 users tracking drop rates]], Legendary rewards are only a 3% chance of dropping, and Apex-tier are only 1%. You can get "Crown Gems" (which can later be used to purchase the items outright) for duplicate items or for trading in consumables, but the exchange rate is paltry: consumable cards (which you'll get roughly 70% of the time) only give you ''one gem'' for the card, meaning that you can spend 400 Crowns on a crate and only get 4 gems for it. The price of the non-consuamble non-consumable rewards with the resulting gems (depending on the tier) are 16, 40, 100, and a whopping ''400'' gems for the apex tier. To top it off, it was EnsembleDarkhorse Pacrooti that they chose to "run" it, a character who ''specifically complained'' about being swindled. Backlash ensued.



** The Homestead Update. Arguably the single-most requested feature since the game launch, the update was slated to bring player housing to the game at long last. Of course, once it made to the test server, it quickly came to light that there were extremely restrictive caps on the amount of players visiting each home at a time: Eight for medium houses, eight for large houses, twelve for manors, and twenty-four for estates, and it wasn't even possible to learn these caps until ''after'' you purchased the home. Cue several angry threads on the forums, some of which even accused Zenimax of doing it on purpose for the sake of [[MoneyDearBoy increasing demand for even more expensive guild halls]] later on down the line.

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** The Homestead Update. Arguably the single-most requested feature since the game launch, the update was slated to bring player housing to the game at long last. Of course, once it made to the test server, it quickly came to light that there were extremely restrictive caps on the amount of players visiting each home at a time: Eight eight for medium houses, eight for large houses, twelve for manors, and twenty-four for estates, and it wasn't even possible to learn these caps until ''after'' you purchased the home. Cue several angry threads on the forums, some of which even accused Zenimax of doing it on purpose for the sake of [[MoneyDearBoy increasing demand for even more expensive guild halls]] later on down the line.
7th Mar '17 5:06:12 AM SorPepita
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** Naryu Virian from the Ebonheart Pact is so popular that players are demanding she be brought back in a future storyline. She's a member of the [[MurderInc Morag Tong]], and easily one of the funniest and most amusing characters this side of Razum-Dar. She openly flirts with the player character on occasion ([[BiTheWay regardless of gender]]), and of course, she's a total badass who is one of the very few genuinely useful NPC allies you can have in battle. Zenimax is perfectly aware of her popularity, as they've actually stated they might bring her back sometime, and you can actually buy her outfit to wear for yourself in the Crown Store. With the announcement of the ''Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind'' expansion pack, they are delivering on this promise: Not only is she confirmed to be the {{deuteragonist}} of the main storyline, she starred in the reveal trailer, in full cinematic glory.
* GameBreaker: The deconstruction mechanic is this for crafting. When using Woodworking, Blacksmithing, and Clothing, you have the option to take pieces of equipment for that craft and breaking them down into base components and get some crafting EXP in the process. It becomes ridiculously easy to horde loot from defeated enemies and gain tons of ore, wood, hide, and race motif items, as well as easily level up your associated skill. Even better, you can simply steal everything not nailed down in the (''respawing'') market stalls, not only making it trivial to gather ''huge'' amounts of resources with little effort, but allowing you to craft 'clean' items that the guards won't take from you if caught.

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** Naryu Virian from the Ebonheart Pact is so popular that players are demanding she be brought back in a future storyline. She's a member of the [[MurderInc Morag Tong]], and easily one of the funniest and most amusing characters this side of Razum-Dar. She openly flirts with the player character on occasion ([[BiTheWay regardless of gender]]), and of course, she's a total badass who is one of the very few genuinely useful NPC allies you can have in battle. Zenimax is perfectly aware of her popularity, as they've actually stated they might bring her back sometime, and you can actually buy her outfit to wear for yourself in the Crown Store. With the announcement of the ''Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind'' expansion pack, they are delivering on this promise: Not not only is she confirmed to be the {{deuteragonist}} of the main storyline, she starred in the reveal trailer, in full cinematic glory.
* GameBreaker: The deconstruction mechanic is this for crafting. When using Woodworking, Blacksmithing, and Clothing, you have the option to take pieces of equipment for that craft craft, and breaking them down into base components and get some crafting EXP in the process. It becomes ridiculously easy to horde loot from defeated enemies and gain tons of ore, wood, hide, and race motif items, as well as easily level up your associated skill. Even better, you can simply steal everything not nailed down in the (''respawing'') market stalls, not only making it trivial to gather ''huge'' amounts of resources with little effort, but allowing you to craft 'clean' items that the guards won't take from you if caught.



** Animation Cancelling. Borders on GameBreaker. Done by exploiting the 'animation priority,' nimble-fingered players have found that rapidly chaining together a light attack, an ability, and then a bash in that order cancels the animation of the previous action and leads right into the next one, effectively allowing you to spam abilities and dish out insane amounts of DPS by negating the game's version of a global cooldown. In the hands of a [[ElementalPowers destruction staff]] user with Elemental Drain, this can be a deadly combination, because you will ''never'' run out of Magicka. [=ZoS=] themselves have admitted that they never thought this was possible, but because it's technically not an exploit, they aren't sure ''what'' to do about it. Cue PlayerVersusPlayer enthusiasts starting an InternetBackdraft.

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** Animation Cancelling. Borders on GameBreaker. Done by exploiting the 'animation priority,' priority', nimble-fingered players have found that rapidly chaining together a light attack, an ability, and then a bash in that order cancels the animation of the previous action and leads right into the next one, effectively allowing you to spam abilities and dish out insane amounts of DPS by negating the game's version of a global cooldown. In the hands of a [[ElementalPowers destruction staff]] user with Elemental Drain, this can be a deadly combination, because you will ''never'' run out of Magicka. [=ZoS=] themselves have admitted that they never thought this was possible, but because it's technically not an exploit, they aren't sure ''what'' to do about it. Cue PlayerVersusPlayer enthusiasts starting an InternetBackdraft.
7th Mar '17 5:02:04 AM SorPepita
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** Harvesters are absolutely ''loathed'' in this game, mainly for having the ability to summon several orbs to heal themselves, it's bad enough that they have large health pools and can deal a high amount of damage. One of their abilities has the potential to [[OneHitKill One Shot]] you if you don't interrupt it in time.

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** Harvesters are absolutely ''loathed'' in this game, mainly for having the ability to summon several orbs to heal themselves, themselves; it's bad enough that they have large health pools and can deal a high amount of damage. One of their abilities has the potential to [[OneHitKill One Shot]] you if you don't interrupt it in time.
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