History YMMV / TheDresdenFiles

13th Jun '17 9:35:23 PM nombretomado
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* JerkassWoobie: When you read between the lines, you realize just how much shit Morgan's life has put him through. Four years on the Western Front in WorldWarOne is probably the least of his traumas.

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* JerkassWoobie: When you read between the lines, you realize just how much shit Morgan's life has put him through. Four years on the Western Front in WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is probably the least of his traumas.
2nd Jun '17 3:17:23 PM Zaptech
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** Also done intentionally with the outsiders. Initially they are presented, both on-screen and off, as almost literally unstoppable engines of destruction once they're through the gate. However, gradually Harry begins to discover that they aren't quite as badass or as destructive as they seem. They have a WeaksauceWeakness to an ability he inherently already has, their thinking is extremely limited, many of them are one-trick pony magicians, and some of their dastardly evil plans once they beat their way past the assembled winter court and the wizards are things like [[spoiler: buying a bar and taking up home brewing.]]

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** Also done intentionally with the outsiders. Initially they are presented, both on-screen and off, as almost literally unstoppable engines of destruction once they're through the gate. However, gradually Harry begins to discover that they aren't quite as badass or as destructive as they seem. They have a WeaksauceWeakness weakness to an ability he inherently already has, their thinking is extremely limited, many of them are one-trick pony magicians, and some of their dastardly evil plans once they beat their way past the assembled winter court and the wizards are things like [[spoiler: buying a bar and taking up home brewing.]]
31st May '17 8:50:54 PM Eagal
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** Officer Grayson falls for Dresden's lie that the bloody clothes and robes in the backseat of Dresden's car are just Halloween props.
3rd May '17 8:36:18 PM randomtroper89
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* BrokenBase: The fandom is vehemently torn over whether Book Bob is better than TV Bob, and generally over whether the show is a good adaptation of the books.
** General consensus is that Terrance Mann was just ''awesome'' as Bob, putting all he had into the performance, to the point where some still hear his voice when reading Bob's speech in the books. But Bob still should have been a disembodied knowledge spirit, not a ghost.
*** Which would have made every Harry/Bob scene consist solely of one actor talking to an empty set while the other actor's lines were added later in ADR. It was a PragmaticAdaptation for the needs of translating a book to a visual medium.

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* BrokenBase: The fandom is vehemently torn over whether Book Bob is better than TV Bob, and generally over whether BrokenBase:
** Whether
the show is a good adaptation of the books.
** General consensus is that Terrance Mann was just ''awesome'' as Bob, putting all he had into the performance, to the point where some still hear his voice when reading Bob's speech in the books. But Whether Book Bob still should have been a disembodied knowledge spirit, not a ghost.
*** Which would have made every Harry/Bob scene consist solely of one actor talking to an empty set while the other actor's lines were added later in ADR. It was a PragmaticAdaptation for the needs of translating a book to a visual medium.
is better than TV Bob.


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** Bob being a ghost, not a disembodied knowledge spirit, due to every Harry/Bob scene having to consist solely of one actor talking to an empty set while the other actor's lines were added later in ADR.
20th Apr '17 1:02:52 AM Alas_Poor_Donny
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** Also done intentionally with the outsiders. Initially they are presented, both on-screen and off, as almost literally unstoppable engines of destruction once they're through the gate. However, gradually Harry begins to discover that they aren't quite as badass or as destructive as they seem. They have a WeaksauceWeakness to an ability he inherently already has, their thinking is extremely limited, many of them are one-trick pony magicians, and some of their dastardly evil plans once they beat their way past the assembled winter court and the wizards are things like [[spoiler: buying a bar and taking up home brewing.]]
20th Apr '17 12:53:00 AM Alas_Poor_Donny
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*** Also: [[spoiler:The only purpose of a shadow when it's not being used as an avatar for the much more alien being in its coin is to get its host to pick up the coin again. You have to be, not only alive, but healthy and powerful enough to kill off anyone else who has also touched it, also has a shadow in their head, and will also be going for the coin. This implies that Lash's HeelFaceTurn, while genuine from her perspective, is actually her programming creating another kind of trap for the host, by making him trust her when she's actually still fulfilling the purpose of the shadow. Even sacrificing herself is in service of that purpose, you can hardly pick the coin up if you're brain-dead.]]
17th Mar '17 7:13:50 PM Zaptech
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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: An unfortunate result of the books being told from Harry's POV is that we miss some of the crazier fights in the background. Of course, considering [[Awesome/TheDresdenFiles how much awesome is crammed in the series already]], adding more might result in brains melting.
** [[spoiler:The battle between the Wardens and the Red Court across half of Europe]] in ''Dead Beat''
** [[spoiler:Morgan ''and'' Michael ''and'' half of Summer trouncing the Red Court]] in ''Proven Guilty''.
** ''Small Favor'' had what was likely an ''awesome'' parkour chase as a gaggle of faerie elves chased Thomas-disguised-as-Harry across the Chicago rooftops. We missed it mostly because Harry was with Michael as he went Fist of God on a few hundred hobs in the subway.
** [[spoiler: Molly, Thomas and Mouse fighting the Ick]] in ''Changes'' [[spoiler: while Harry lies broken on the other side of a house.]]
** Between ''Changes'' and ''Ghost Story'', Murphy [[spoiler: killed two warlocks who were at Council-tier strength]]. Considering Murphy is a human with [[BadassNormal no magic to her]], that is ''really'' impressive, but we sadly don't get to see it.
** By ''Skin Game'', it's [[spoiler: ''Butters'' who's taking up the slack for Harry and Molly, by not merely taking a level in badass, but taking a level in ''Batman''.]]
** Also in ''Skin Game'', Sanya isn't in Chicago fighting Nicodemus because he is in Iran taking on a group of Denarians to prevent a nuclear crisis.
** The Oblivion War, as specified in ''Backup.'' Jim Butcher even [[WordOfGod said]] that by Harry's very [[DestructiveSavior nature]], he'd be an immense liability if he [[IgnoranceIsBliss even knew]] about the war.
16th Mar '17 2:53:43 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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** As of ''Turn Coat'', [[spoiler: Morgan]], although this may be [[TooCoolToLive Too]] badass [[TooCoolToLive To Live]] considering his [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkassness]].

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** As of ''Turn Coat'', [[spoiler: Morgan]], although this may be [[TooCoolToLive Too]] badass [[TooCoolToLive To Live]] TooBadassToLive considering his [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkassness]].{{Jerkass}}ness
15th Feb '17 8:22:21 AM randomtroper89
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* UnfortunateImplications: The repeated sexualization of women, [[http://www.fangsforthefantasy.com/2013/07/the-dresden-files-who-isnt-sex-object.html to some]]; Harry has a tendency to describe attractive women in extended detail whenever he meets them, going on page-long monologues in some cases. A common counterpoint to this is that the series possesses a number of non-sexualized women [[note]](Meryl, Helen Beckett, Luccio's original body, Martha Liberty, Ancient Mai, Anna Ash and most of the Ordo Lebes, the Mothers, and more)[[/note]], most of the jaw-droppingly beautiful women are not human to begin with, and Harry's fixation is presented as a clear character flaw that gets him into trouble often. It's generally left up to the reader to decide which holds more weight.

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* UnfortunateImplications: UnfortunateImplications:
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The repeated sexualization of women, [[http://www.fangsforthefantasy.com/2013/07/the-dresden-files-who-isnt-sex-object.html to some]]; Harry has a tendency to describe attractive women in extended detail whenever he meets them, going on page-long monologues in some cases. A common counterpoint to this is that the series possesses a number of non-sexualized women [[note]](Meryl, Helen Beckett, Luccio's original body, Martha Liberty, Ancient Mai, Anna Ash and most of the Ordo Lebes, the Mothers, and more)[[/note]], most of the jaw-droppingly beautiful women are not human to begin with, and Harry's fixation is presented as a clear character flaw that gets him into trouble often. It's generally left up to the reader to decide which holds more weight.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/KimCoates as the demon Sirota.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: PragmaticAdaptation:
**Harry's hockey-stick staff. Most agree, even if grudgingly, that a man walking around with a hockey stick would be far less conspicuous than a man walking around with a six-foot staff that looks like something [[TheLordOfTheRings Gandalf]] might carry. Credit where credit is due; in the series, Harry is less overt about what he is than in the books. TV Harry doesn't mind if people think of him as one of those "psychic investigators" police sometimes employ. Book Harry straight out says he's a wizard.
** Butcher himself says that changing Harry's ride from a Volkswagen Beetle to a Jeep works for reasons both practical (filming in a Beetle would seriously limit camera angles) and character (Jeeps were intended for function over aesthetics and meant to keep running even under the worst of conditions), something Harry would very much approve of.
* RetroactiveRecognition:
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Creator/KimCoates as the demon Sirota.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** The reaction of the bulk of the book fans when the show started.
** Reasons ranged from the reasonable (the series was far less "quirky" than the books and more a mainstream supernatural show) to the outright weird (Murphy is supposed to be blonde, dammit!)
** Sometimes averted when it comes to Harry's hockey-stick staff. Most agree, even if grudgingly, that a man walking around with a hockey stick would be far less conspicuous than a man walking around with a six-foot staff that looks like something [[TheLordOfTheRings Gandalf]] might carry. Credit where credit is due; in the series, Harry is less overt about what he is than in the books. TV Harry doesn't mind if people think of him as one of those "psychic investigators" police sometimes employ. Book Harry straight out says he's a wizard.
** Butcher himself says that changing Harry's ride from a Volkswagen Beetle to a Jeep works for reasons both practical (filming in a Beetle would seriously limit camera angles) and character (Jeeps were intended for function over aesthetics and meant to keep running even under the worst of conditions), something Harry would very much approve of.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The reaction of the bulk of the book fans when the show started.
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started. Reasons ranged from the reasonable (the series was far less "quirky" than the books and more a mainstream supernatural show) to the outright weird (Murphy is supposed to be blonde, dammit!)
** Sometimes averted when it comes to Harry's hockey-stick staff. Most agree, even if grudgingly, that a man walking around with a hockey stick would be far less conspicuous than a man walking around with a six-foot staff that looks like something [[TheLordOfTheRings Gandalf]] might carry. Credit where credit is due; in the series, Harry is less overt about what he is than in the books. TV Harry doesn't mind if people think of him as one of those "psychic investigators" police sometimes employ. Book Harry straight out says he's a wizard.
** Butcher himself says that changing Harry's ride from a Volkswagen Beetle to a Jeep works for reasons both practical (filming in a Beetle would seriously limit camera angles) and character (Jeeps were intended for function over aesthetics and meant to keep running even under the worst of conditions), something Harry would very much approve of.
dammit!)
7th Feb '17 11:04:08 AM troodos
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* LoveToHate: Nicodemus may be a genocidal, sadistic, despicable monster, but damn is his awfulness entertaining.
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