History YMMV / TheDarkTower

14th Jul '16 9:47:25 PM Anddrix
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* JumpingTheShark: Some fans believe this happened with ''Literature/WolvesOfTheCalla'', which was written soon after King's car accident. Others cite ''Literature/WizardAndGlass'', or even as early as ''Literature/TheDrawingOfTheThree'', while still others claim it happened later, in ''Literature/SongOfSusannah'' or ''Literature/TheDarkTower''.
14th Jul '16 9:35:55 PM mlsmithca
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Four Words - [[NewGamePlus The Horn of Eld]]
* BrokenBase: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement. Some fans are happy with the decision, stating that Elba is an accomplished actor in his own right and carries the correct presence to portray Roland of Gilead. Other fans claim that changing Roland's specified ethnic approximation (not quite European, as he does not hail from Europe, but he still appears Caucasian/"white") goes against the character, as he was designed to look like Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".

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To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement. Some fans are happy with the decision, stating that Elba is an accomplished actor in his own right and carries the correct presence to portray Roland of Gilead. Other fans claim that changing Roland's specified ethnic approximation (not quite European, as he does not hail from Europe, but he still appears Caucasian/"white") goes against the character, as he was designed to look like Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".



*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that [=McConaughey=] will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for [=McConaughey=] to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.

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*** ** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that [=McConaughey=] will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for [=McConaughey=] to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.
14th Jul '16 5:58:52 PM MaskedAndDangerous
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Four Words - [[NewGamePlus The Horn of Eld]]
13th Jul '16 12:31:09 AM Ragitsu
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** The casting of Creator/IdrisElba as Roland in the movies has caused a ''major'' split in the fan base, between those who think that Roland has to be portrayed by a white actor in order for his antagonism with Detta to work (or who just believe that RaceLift casting shouldn't ever happen in adaptations), and those who think Elba's talent outweighs his lack of physical resemblance to Novel!Roland and that Detta's problem was always with Roland's authority as leader of the ka-tet (or even just the fact that he exists near her because, y'know, Detta) rather than his race.
*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that [=McConaughey=] will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for [=McConaughey=] to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.


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** Also, the casting of Creator/IdrisElba as Roland in the movies has caused a ''major'' split in the fan base, between those who think that Roland has to be portrayed by a white actor in order for his antagonism with Detta to work (or who just believe that RaceLift casting shouldn't ever happen in adaptations), and those who think Elba's talent outweighs his lack of physical resemblance to Novel!Roland and that Detta's problem was always with Roland's authority as leader of the ka-tet (or even just the fact that he exists near her because, y'know, Detta) rather than his race.
*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that [=McConaughey=] will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for [=McConaughey=] to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.
12th Jul '16 12:54:11 PM Ragitsu
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* BrokenBase: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement. Some fans are happy with the decision, citing that Elba is an accomplished actor in his own right and carries the correct presence to portray Roland of Gilead. Other fans claim that changing Roland's specified ethnic approximation (not quite European, as he does not hail from Europe, but he still appears Caucasian/white) goes against the character, as he was designed to look like Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".

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* BrokenBase: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement. Some fans are happy with the decision, citing stating that Elba is an accomplished actor in his own right and carries the correct presence to portray Roland of Gilead. Other fans claim that changing Roland's specified ethnic approximation (not quite European, as he does not hail from Europe, but he still appears Caucasian/white) Caucasian/"white") goes against the character, as he was designed to look like Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".
12th Jul '16 12:53:16 PM Ragitsu
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* InternetBackdraft: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement.

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* InternetBackdraft: BrokenBase: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement.understatement. Some fans are happy with the decision, citing that Elba is an accomplished actor in his own right and carries the correct presence to portray Roland of Gilead. Other fans claim that changing Roland's specified ethnic approximation (not quite European, as he does not hail from Europe, but he still appears Caucasian/white) goes against the character, as he was designed to look like Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".
12th Jul '16 12:48:56 PM Ragitsu
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!!''The Dark Tower'' film:

* InternetBackdraft: To say that the decision to cast Creator/IdrisElba to play Roland Deschain has met some controversy is a major understatement.
3rd Jun '16 9:26:21 AM GreenLady
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*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that McConaughey will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for McConaughey to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.

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*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that McConaughey [=McConaughey=] will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for McConaughey [=McConaughey=] to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.
3rd Jun '16 9:25:42 AM GreenLady
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*** Ironically, one side-effect of this has been that, while a portion of the fandom was gearing up to hate on Creator/MatthewMcConaughey being cast as Roland (prior to his BreakoutRole on ''Series/TrueDetective'', anyway), the announcement that McConaughey will be playing The Man in Black, while Elba will be playing Roland, has now got some of the same fans asking for McConaughey to be re-cast as Roland instead. Some are even calling for their roles to be switched, though more seem to want to avoid the suggestion due to its UnfortunateImplications.
3rd Jun '16 9:20:43 AM GreenLady
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** The casting of Creator/IdrisElba as Roland in the movies has caused a ''major'' split in the fan base, between those who think that Roland has to be portrayed by a white actor in order for his antagonism with Detta to work (or who just believe that RaceLift casting shouldn't ever happen in adaptations), and those who think Elba's talent outweighs his lack of physical resemblance to Novel!Roland and that Detta's problem was always with Roland's authority and [[FantasticRacism other-worldliness]] rather than his race.

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** The casting of Creator/IdrisElba as Roland in the movies has caused a ''major'' split in the fan base, between those who think that Roland has to be portrayed by a white actor in order for his antagonism with Detta to work (or who just believe that RaceLift casting shouldn't ever happen in adaptations), and those who think Elba's talent outweighs his lack of physical resemblance to Novel!Roland and that Detta's problem was always with Roland's authority and [[FantasticRacism other-worldliness]] as leader of the ka-tet (or even just the fact that he exists near her because, y'know, Detta) rather than his race.
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