History YMMV / TheDarkKnightRises

3rd Jan '18 11:04:43 AM Silverblade2
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* ContestedSequel: A masterpiece just like [[Film/TheDarkKnight its predecessor]], a good movie despite [[ToughActToFollow not living up to its predecessor]], or a [[{{Sequelitis}} typical disappointing superhero threequel]]? Nearly everyone agrees that ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' was better so really it's a contest of whether this movie or ''Film/BatmanBegins'' gets second place. Many point out that despite doing a lot of heavy lifting with Bane to build him as a compelling villain, [[spoiler:the finale merely highlights that he's the same GenericDoomsdayVillain from the comics, likewise the idea that Batman essentially "quits" being a hero, retires, finds love and settles down, is seen by some as being essentially out-of-character of the Batman of the comics]] and many feel that it lacks the element of tragedy to properly be a "last superhero story" in the way ''Film/{{Logan}}, ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow, ComicBook/TheDarkKnightReturns'' are. On the other hand Selina Kyle was universally praised as a great character.

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* ContestedSequel: A masterpiece just like [[Film/TheDarkKnight its predecessor]], a good movie despite [[ToughActToFollow not living up to its predecessor]], or a [[{{Sequelitis}} typical disappointing superhero threequel]]? Nearly everyone agrees that ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' was better so really it's a contest of whether this movie or ''Film/BatmanBegins'' gets second place. Many point out that despite doing a lot of heavy lifting with Bane to build him as a compelling villain, [[spoiler:the finale merely highlights that he's the same GenericDoomsdayVillain one note villain from the comics, likewise the idea that Batman essentially "quits" being a hero, retires, finds love and settles down, is seen by some as being essentially out-of-character of the Batman of the comics]] and many feel that it lacks the element of tragedy to properly be a "last superhero story" in the way ''Film/{{Logan}}, ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow, ComicBook/TheDarkKnightReturns'' are. On the other hand Selina Kyle was universally praised as a great character.
28th Dec '17 6:49:58 PM 64SuperNintendo
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** [[spoiler:In ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Ra's Al Guhl tells Bruce to pick out a rare blue flower as part of his quest to find what he was looking for in the first place. At the end of this film when Alfred sees Bruce with Selina in Italy, Selina is wearing a blue dress.]]

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** [[spoiler:In ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Ra's Al Guhl Ghul tells Bruce to pick out a rare blue flower as part of his quest to find what he was looking for in the first place. At the end of this film when Alfred sees Bruce with Selina in Italy, Selina is wearing a blue dress.]]



* NightmareFuel: Plenty of it, but Bruce's hallucination of Ra's Al Guhl in the pit is the most obvious as the image of Ra's taunts him over his failure to properly save Gotham from itself, as evidenced by the fact that despite his best efforts the only victory he could achieve "was a lie."

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* NightmareFuel: Plenty of it, but Bruce's hallucination of Ra's Al Guhl Ghul in the pit is the most obvious as the image of Ra's taunts him over his failure to properly save Gotham from itself, as evidenced by the fact that despite his best efforts the only victory he could achieve "was a lie."
19th Dec '17 7:40:49 AM Wiseoung-5
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* EvilIsCool: Bane, to part where part of the BrokenBase for the film is [[spoiler: the reveal of Talia's involvement.]]

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* EvilIsCool: Bane, to part where part of the BrokenBase for the film is [[spoiler: the reveal of Talia's involvement.involvement and Bane being unceremoniously killed off shortly after said-reveal.]]
19th Dec '17 7:36:09 AM Wiseoung-5
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:When Talia reveals herself in the final act, Bane is seemingly and abruptly killed off by Catwoman with a shot from the Batpod's cannon in a way that some find anticlimactic.]]

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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:When Talia reveals herself in the final act, Bane is seemingly and abruptly killed off by Catwoman with a shot from the Batpod's cannon in a way that some find anticlimactic.anticlimactic, if not outright upsetting.]]
13th Dec '17 11:51:21 AM observer234
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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and make his problems go away with bribes finds he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more heroic manner.
13th Dec '17 3:31:32 AM observer234
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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and make his problems go away with bribes finds he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.

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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and make his problems go away with bribes finds he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.
13th Dec '17 3:25:32 AM observer234
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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and makes his problems go away with bribes finds he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.

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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and makes make his problems go away with bribes finds he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.
13th Dec '17 3:23:25 AM observer234
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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and makes his problems go away with bribes finds him unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.

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* SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and makes his problems go away with bribes finds him he's unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.
13th Dec '17 3:22:23 AM observer234
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*SpiritualAntithesis: To ''[[Series/{{Runaways}} Runaways]]''. Here, the villain who wants to "lay low" and makes his problems go away with bribes finds him unable to do so, his small ambitions are portrayed as well, small, compared to the larger ambitions of the true BigBad. The hero has a legitimate reason for [[IWorkAlone working alone]], and the police are portrayed in a much more realistic and heroic manner.
3rd Dec '17 4:27:37 PM NogaiKhan
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* VocalMinority: While certainly not ''perfect'', the movie managed to score a Website/RottenTomatoes rating of 88% ("Certified Fresh") with an even higher Audience Rating of ''90%'', along with a respectable 78% on Metacritic, and an Website/{{iMDB}} user rating of 8.5--giving it a high-ranking spot on the site's Top 250 list. So then why might some people get the impression that audiences hated it? It helps that its detractors include Creator/DougWalker, the writers of WebVideo/ScreenJunkies' WebVideo/HonestTrailers, and several writers for ''Website/{{Cracked}}'', who take every opportunity to bash it whenever they bring it up.

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* VocalMinority: While certainly not ''perfect'', the movie managed to score a Website/RottenTomatoes rating of 88% ("Certified Fresh") with an even higher Audience Rating of ''90%'', along with a respectable 78% on Metacritic, and an Website/{{iMDB}} user rating of 8.5--giving it a high-ranking spot on the site's Top 250 list. It also made over a billion at the box office. So then why might some people get the impression that audiences hated it? It helps that its detractors include Creator/DougWalker, the writers of WebVideo/ScreenJunkies' WebVideo/HonestTrailers, and several writers for ''Website/{{Cracked}}'', who take every opportunity to bash it whenever they bring it up.
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