History YMMV / TheCrucible

14th Jun '16 9:16:42 AM bellarmire
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** Mary is also a contentious figure. While she is a tragic character who's constantly beaten and manipulated, she's so weak and prone to switching sides (and is eventually the one who dooms Proctor) that for many she's an annoyance.
26th Mar '16 9:45:00 PM tropette
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** Act 2, Scene 2 can also be played as Abigail deliberately "believing" her own lies and playing to Proctor's doubt and pity to appear sympathetic or at least deluded, rather than ruthless -- her plan, such as it is, relies on him not completely despising her, and it wouldn't be any less far-fetched than what's going on in the courtroom.

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** Act 2, Scene 2 can also be played as Abigail deliberately "believing" her own lies and playing to Proctor's doubt and pity in an attempt to appear make even him find her sympathetic or at least deluded, rather than ruthless -- her plan, such as it is, relies on him not completely despising her, and it wouldn't be any less far-fetched than what's going on in the courtroom.
26th Mar '16 9:44:19 PM tropette
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** Act 2, Scene 2 can also be played as Abigail deliberately "believing" her own lies and playing to Proctor's doubt and pity to appear sympathetic or at least deluded, rather than ruthless -- her plan, such as it is, relies on him not completely despising her, and it wouldn't be any less far-fetched than what's going on in the courtroom.
23rd Jan '16 6:25:28 PM randomguy399
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* EvilIsSexy: Abigail. Though underage, she ''is'' played by Creator/WinonaRyder.
10th Jan '16 1:44:20 PM GothicProphet
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* WhatAnIdiot: After [[spoiler: Min-su's suicide]], the police officer tries to break up the rally by speaking into a megaphone. ''To deaf people.''

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* WhatAnIdiot: After [[spoiler: Min-su's suicide]], the police officer tries to break up the rally by speaking into a megaphone. ''To deaf people.''''
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6th Jun '15 8:22:32 PM beack7
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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now. In the case of ''The Crucible'', Molly Kazan (Creator/EliaKazan's wife and a playwright and critic) felt that the play had a weak argument. She pointed out that the metaphor of a WitchHunt for anti-communist persecution or government persecution of "subversives" does not translate to the Salem Witch Trials because witches don't exist whereas political groups and other subversives do exist, and many of its members take actual political positions for and against the state.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now. In the case of ''The Crucible'', Molly Kazan (Creator/EliaKazan's wife and a playwright and critic) felt that the play had a weak argument. She pointed out that the metaphor of a WitchHunt for anti-communist persecution or government persecution of "subversives" does not translate to the Salem Witch Trials because witches don't exist whereas political groups and other subversives do exist, and many of its members take actual political positions for and against the state.
6th Jun '15 7:49:19 PM JulianLapostat
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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now. In the case of ''The Crucible'', Molly Kazan (Creator/EliaKazan's wife and a playwright and critic) felt that the play had a weak argument. She pointed out that the metaphor of a WitchHunt for anti-communist persecution or government persecution of "subversives" does not translate to the Salem Witch Trials because witches don't exist whereas political groups and other subversives do exist, and many of its members take actual political positions for and against the state.
10th Dec '14 11:43:03 AM megazilla
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* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life person having been on English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent everyone else's.
7th Nov '14 12:34:09 PM CJCroen1393
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* MoralEventHorizon: Just ''where'' Abigail crosses this is difficult to judge, but her lowest point might be when she [[spoiler:accuses Mary of witchcraft to save her own hide, and more or less drives the poor girl completely insane with fear]].
-->'''Mary:''' [[TearJerker I won't hurt you anymore, Abby...]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Just ''where'' Abigail crosses this is difficult to judge, but her lowest point might be when she [[spoiler:accuses Mary of witchcraft to save her own hide, and more or less drives the poor girl completely insane with fear]].
fear. She then has the gall to feign sympathy for her when she completely breaks down]].
-->'''Mary:''' [[TearJerker I won't hurt you anymore, Abby...]]]] (''sobs into Abigail's arms'')
23rd Sep '14 10:11:43 PM ANewMan
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* BaseBreaker: Abigail. Either she is a [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] who managed to achieve mass murder via [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation]], or she is a major KarmaHoudini who doomed the [[TheWoobie more sypathetic characters]] like John and Elizabeth Proctor, Rebecca Nurse, and even Mary Warren, [[TearJerker who suffers a nervous breakdown after]] [[DirtyCoward the girl she had been loyal to accuses her of withcraft]].

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* BaseBreaker: Abigail. Either she is a [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] who managed to achieve mass murder via [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation]], or she is a major KarmaHoudini who doomed the [[TheWoobie more sypathetic sympathetic characters]] like John and Elizabeth Proctor, Rebecca Nurse, and even Mary Warren, [[TearJerker who suffers a nervous breakdown after]] [[DirtyCoward the girl she had been loyal to accuses her of withcraft]].
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