History YMMV / TheBreakfastClub

24th Sep '16 10:40:54 AM PrincessGwen
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** All the time that they've spend on detention was finding new ways to take advantage of one another.

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** All the time that they've spend on spent in detention was finding new ways to take advantage of one another.



*** Taking a look at Brian's interactions with his mother it is clear that she isn't exactly mother of the year material. So it is safe to assume that his home life isn't as perfect as Bender believes it is.
*** For instance Brian's not too flattered expression when Bender re-enacts Brian's home life.

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*** Taking a look at Brian's interactions with his mother mother, it is clear that she isn't exactly mother of the year material. So it is safe to assume that his home life isn't as perfect as Bender believes it is.
*** For instance instance, Brian's not too flattered expression when Bender re-enacts Brian's home life.



** The pairings at the end with Bender & Claire and Andrew & Alison. While there are plenty of viewers who find them to be classic examples of cinematic romance, there are also plenty of those who find one or both of them to be blatant cases of DesignatedLoveInterest that would never last. Those who go for the latter often either prefer [[FanPreferredCouple alternate pairings]] or believe they all were just too abusive to each other for any romance to reasonably last. Or on a slightly more positive note some may find the debates silly by stating that High-School romances normally don't last at all anyways.

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** The pairings at the end with Bender & Claire and Andrew & Alison. While there are plenty of viewers who find them to be classic examples of cinematic romance, there are also plenty of those who find one or both of them to be blatant cases of DesignatedLoveInterest that would never last. Those who go for the latter often either prefer [[FanPreferredCouple alternate pairings]] or believe they all were just too abusive to each other for any romance to reasonably last. Or on a slightly more positive note note, some may find the debates silly by stating that High-School romances normally don't last at all anyways.



** Related to the complaint about the pair-ups for the film consisting of Bender & Claire and Andrew & Alison, a number of fans are upset that this meant Brian was left alone at the end of the film. Many fans defend the decision, debating that Brian didn't "Need" a relationship the same way some of the other members of the group got or that because of how he was raised his emotional maturity still needed work (John Hughes himself said Brian wasn't socially mature enough to be in a relationship). Other fans are still angry, pointing out that Brian's maturity level was no less than the other members of the group, such as Alison or Bender, and the other reasons come off more like excuses. The fact that Brian is a nerd, and thus the uncool one of the group, is left alone to write a paper while the other four kids all go make-out clashes with the theme of the movie to some.

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** Related to the complaint about the pair-ups for the film consisting of Bender & Claire and Andrew & Alison, a number of fans are upset that this meant Brian was left alone at the end of the film. Many fans defend the decision, debating that Brian didn't "Need" "need" a relationship the same way some of the other members of the group got or that because of how he was raised his emotional maturity still needed work (John Hughes himself said Brian wasn't socially mature enough to be in a relationship). Other fans are still angry, pointing out that Brian's maturity level was no less than the other members of the group, such as Alison or Bender, and the other reasons come off more like excuses. The fact that Brian is a nerd, and thus the uncool one of the group, is left alone to write a paper while the other four kids all go make-out clashes with the theme of the movie to some.
19th Sep '16 9:24:13 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Bender vs. Vernon to a certain extent. Bender and Vernon are both colossal dicks. The former comes from an abusive household, and the latter is trying to maintain discipline.
** [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Well, to be honest, no one in the film is a real saint.]]

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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Bender vs. Vernon to a certain extent. Bender and Vernon are both colossal dicks. The former comes from an abusive household, and the latter is trying to maintain discipline.
** [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Well, to be honest, no
No one in the film is a real saint.]]saint. They ''are'' all in detention, after all.
9th Aug '16 5:07:37 PM AnonymousBosch
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9th Aug '16 5:00:51 PM AnonymousBosch
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A complaint some viewers have about the film is that, in spite of its moments of levity, the film is too bleak and cynical to get emotionally invested in. In addition, there are virtually zero characters that aren't damaged or have some sort of agenda, and a popular interpretation of the ending is that the kids didn't really learn anything, and will most likely become just as bad as their parents, if not worse. "Life sucks and then you die" sums it up well.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: ''The Breakfast Club'' is to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' what ''Film/SixteenCandles'' is to ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. A common complaint some viewers have about the film is that, in spite of its moments of levity, the film is too bleak and cynical to get emotionally invested in. In addition, there are virtually zero characters that aren't damaged or have some sort of agenda, and a popular interpretation of the ending is that the kids didn't really learn anything, and will most likely become just as bad as their parents, if not worse. "Life sucks The original cut of the film is possibly even darker, with Carl making soul-crushingly pessimistic predictions about the futures of the kids, further exploration of their damaged psyches and then you die" sums it up well.home lives, and a more downbeat tone.


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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Abused and neglected kids need to buck up and deal with it, because life just sucks all around.
9th Aug '16 8:29:22 AM siberia82
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* HilariousInHindsight: As a CastingGag in ''Film/XMenApocalypse'', Ally Sheedy plays a high school teacher in 1983 who sends Scott Summers (a.k.a. Cyclops) to the principal's office.
1st Aug '16 11:40:41 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Bender. You either love him for being a sympathetic, flawed jerk, or think he's an insufferable prick [[DesignatedLoveInterest who got with Claire]], [[KarmaHoudini despite previously sexually harassing her]].

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Bender. You either love him for being a sympathetic, flawed jerk, or think he's an insufferable prick [[DesignatedLoveInterest who got with Claire]], [[KarmaHoudini despite previously sexually harassing her]].
18th Jun '16 3:17:13 PM eaterofworlds
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*** For instance Brian's not too flattered expression when Bender re-enacts Brian's home life.
6th Jun '16 2:41:26 AM Sabrewing
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*** Conversely, for someone who went to a school which never had them, the idea of spending an entire Saturday - indeed, ''any'' length of time on a non-school day - can seem like cruel and unusual punishment (obviously not for bringing a gun to school, though).

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*** Conversely, for someone who went to a school which never had them, the idea of spending an entire Saturday - -- indeed, ''any'' length of time on a non-school day - -- can seem like cruel and unusual punishment (obviously not for bringing a gun to school, though).


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** An oft-posted comic using captured scene stills posits that the film wouldn't work if it was made today, as all of the children would be [[PhoneaholicTeenager glued to their mobile devices and tablets]] during the length of detention. Even allowing for the prospect of Vernon not confiscating devices, or for him doing so and the kids sneaking some in anyway, it's a pretty tall order to think they'd all go a full nine hours without any sort of meaningful interaction.
2nd Jun '16 12:53:14 PM PrincessGwen
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*** Is Vernon an jerkass authority figure that uses his authority to bully the students or is he the designated villain of the movie?

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*** Is Vernon an a jerkass authority figure that uses his authority to bully the students or is he the designated villain of the movie?



* DesignatedHero: Its debatable if the Breakfast Club are the kind of group one should root for, read the AlternateCharacterInterpretation section for more details. However if one looks at the movie closely you'd see that John Bender is more the TokenEvilTeammate than a character we should root for.

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* DesignatedHero: Its It's debatable if the Breakfast Club are the kind of group one should root for, read the AlternateCharacterInterpretation section for more details. However if one looks at the movie closely closely, you'd see that John Bender is more the TokenEvilTeammate than a character we should root for.



* FanFicFuel: The rather open-ended ending on how it wasn't answered whether if the 5 actually stayed friends or not by Monday in which of course does rely on your stance in the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealism vs cynicism]] debate. While there are viewers who went for the flat out Idealistic belief that all 5 of them stayed friends and the [[OfficialCouple Official Couples]] (Bender X Claire and Andy X Allison) did truly last while others believed that they all went their seperate ways by Monday. However there are plenty who TookAThirdOption and go with a bit of both. Either on how they all still stay to be friends but the [[OfficialCouple Official Couples]] didn't last. Or some of them still stay friends while some of them don't (usually its either Claire and/or Andy that ditches them to stay with their cliques and its Bender, Allison and Brian that are still friends. However those who do this option are normally those who ship Bender with Allison). Or maybe those who had already admitted to or exhibited their own coldness drop most of the others (Bender and Claire), while those who said they wouldn't don't (Andy, Brian, and Allison).
** Also the suggestion / WordOfGod tidbit that there were several planned sequels, five years apart, revisiting the characters.
* GreyAndGrayMorality: Bender Vs. Vernon to a certain extent. Bender and Vernon are both colossal dicks. The former comes from an abusive household, and the latter is trying to maintain discipline.

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* FanFicFuel: The rather open-ended ending on how it wasn't answered whether if the 5 actually stayed friends or not by Monday in which of course does rely on your stance in the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealism vs cynicism]] debate. While there are viewers who went for the flat out Idealistic belief that all 5 of them stayed friends and the [[OfficialCouple Official Couples]] (Bender X Claire and Andy X Allison) did truly last while others believed that they all went their seperate separate ways by Monday. However However, there are plenty who TookAThirdOption and go with a bit of both. Either on how they all still stay to be friends but the [[OfficialCouple Official Couples]] didn't last. Or some of them still stay friends while some of them don't (usually its it's either Claire and/or Andy that ditches them to stay with their cliques and its it's Bender, Allison and Brian that are still friends. However However, those who do this option are normally those who ship Bender with Allison). Or maybe those who had already admitted to or exhibited their own coldness drop most of the others (Bender and Claire), while those who said they wouldn't don't (Andy, Brian, and Allison).
** Also the suggestion / WordOfGod suggestion/WordOfGod tidbit that there were several planned sequels, five years apart, revisiting the characters.
* GreyAndGrayMorality: Bender Vs.vs. Vernon to a certain extent. Bender and Vernon are both colossal dicks. The former comes from an abusive household, and the latter is trying to maintain discipline.



** Threatening someone with a knife, like Bender did, would be grounds of expulsion and even arrest charges in this day and age. Even if he didn't use it.

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** Threatening someone with a knife, like Bender did, would be grounds of expulsion and even arrest charges in this day and age. Even age, even if he didn't use it.



* ValuesResonance: Despite all the Dissonant issues listed above this movie still attracts a strong fanbase to this day. There are plenty of High School teens who can easily relate to the Breakfast Club even 30 years after the movie first came out. Molly Ringwald has even pointed this out as she has told stories about how Teenage Girls have approached her and told her about how the movie was so about their generation in which Molly was rather shocked about it and has tried to tell them that the movie was more about her Generation though.
* {{Wangst}}: In-Universe Claire is very frequently accused of this but while all of the students have accused Claire of being Wangsty, Andy and Bender are the most prominent accusers.

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* ValuesResonance: Despite all the Dissonant dissonant issues listed above above, this movie still attracts a strong fanbase to this day. There are plenty of High School teens who can easily relate to the Breakfast Club even 30 years after the movie first came out. Molly Ringwald has even pointed this out as she has told stories about how Teenage Girls have approached her and told her about how the movie was so about their generation in which Molly was rather shocked about it and has tried to tell them that the movie was more about her Generation though.
* {{Wangst}}: In-Universe In-Universe, Claire is very frequently accused of this but while all of the students have accused Claire of being Wangsty, Andy and Bender are the most prominent accusers.
9th Apr '16 4:24:32 PM Alphance
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** [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Well, to be honest, no one in the film is a real saint.]]
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