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13th Jun '13 12:26:06 PM TVRulezAgain

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* {{Wangst}}: Played with; many's the time that Wee Hughie's basically been told to shut the fuck up, stop moaning about things and just get over it by the other characters, and he does display a tendency to mope about and wallow in self-pity over the problems in his life. Then again, a lot of the people who are telling him this are themselves homicidal borderline-sociopaths who find it unsettlingly easy to shrug off various atrocities, so they probably aren't the best examples to follow in terms of getting in touch with your emotions.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: In Butcher's case, PlayedWith. He wasn't exactly a nice guy early in his life. But he gradually became a better person when he met his wife, Becky. Then she got raped by Homelander[[spoiler:, really Black Noir]]. And then she died when the child crawled out of her womb. He's implied to have DeathSeeker tendencies, and in issue 65 [[spoiler: after Black Noir and Homelander are dead, he admits, with tears in his eyes, that Becky would loath what he has become.]]
** Ironically enough, as of issue 65, [[spoiler: Homelander, of all people, may count.]] Throughout the series, we see him cross the MoralEventHorizon multiple times. [[spoiler: And yet it turns out that he only got to this point because of atrocities he thought he committed, believing that he was far beyond saving. In truth, Black Noir, who turns out to be his clone, committed several of these crimes (including the baby eating) in an attempt to get Homelander to the point where he could perform his purpose: to kill Homelander.]]

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2nd Mar '13 11:10:23 AM ACW

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* CompleteMonster: Homelander, later issues might be trying to give him a troubled past and present insecurities, still nothing can redeem a ruthless rapist, baby & heart eater, and more recently a man who [[spoiler:likes to incinerate airliners with his heat vision and drop cars from above the clouds, with a family in it.]] The man is basically [[DrawnTogether Captain Hero]] not played for laughs.
** As of issue 65, [[spoiler: he's actually a slight subversion. He certainly has crossed the MoralEventHorizon multiple times, but it turns out that he didn't exactly get to this point on his own. In fact, as shown below...]]
** Malchemical runs off this slippery slope at full speed, with absolutely zero remorse, and is stopped just before he gets to rape little girls. It's a running theme that people with sufficient superpowers to get away with it will end up becoming as close to this trope as makes no difference.
** With the revelation in Issue 65, [[spoiler:Black Noir]] clearly is this, considering that he [[spoiler:committed most of the atrocities attributed to Homelander and manipulated him into becoming 'a complete fucking psychopath by accident,' to quote Butcher.]]
** And only a few months later, with Issue 68, [[spoiler:Butcher himself]] crosses the line into this, given his plan [[spoiler:to commit genocide against the entire super-population, and the fact that he's murdered Mother's Milk, the Frenchman, and even the team's youngest member, the Female, to keep them from trying to stop him.]]

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6th Sep '12 9:19:16 AM hullflyer

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14th Aug '12 10:49:12 AM millenniumrex

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14th Aug '12 10:48:57 AM millenniumrex

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