History YMMV / TheBlackHole

29th Aug '16 10:25:44 PM skidoo23
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: This was the first Disney movie to bear a PG rating. This trope ultimately led to the creation of Creator/TouchstonePictures, to deal with more adult fare. Further, there was no PG-13 rating until 1984, meaning that PG included everything just short of being rated R (other films that were rated PG include Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom (yes with the hearts getting ripped out) and Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan (with the mind-controlling parasites that crawl in your ear and the murder victims hanging from the ceiling). The notion of a PG-rated Disney film in which characters are brutally KilledOffForReal and the last few minutes consist of an idealized depiction of Hell, was ''extremely'' controversial in 1979 and was a primary reason why the film underperformed: diehard sci-fi fans ignored it because, well, it was ''Disney'', and many parents kept their kids at home rather than take them to a PG-rated Disney film.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: This was the first Disney movie to bear a PG rating. This trope ultimately led to the creation of Creator/TouchstonePictures, to deal with more adult fare. Further, there was no PG-13 rating until 1984, meaning that PG included everything just short of being rated R (other films that were rated PG include Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom (yes with the hearts getting ripped out) and Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan (with the mind-controlling parasites that crawl in your ear and the murder victims hanging from the ceiling). The notion of a PG-rated Disney film in which characters are brutally KilledOffForReal and the last few minutes consist of an idealized depiction of Hell, was ''extremely'' controversial in 1979 and was a primary reason why the film underperformed: diehard sci-fi fans ignored it because, well, it was ''Disney'', and many parents kept their kids at home rather than take them to a PG-rated Disney film.film (in the pre-home video age, parents had a lot more control over what their kids were exposed to).
29th Aug '16 10:24:53 PM skidoo23
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: This was the first Disney movie to bear a PG rating. This trope ultimately led to the creation of Creator/TouchstonePictures, to deal with more adult fare. Further, there was no PG-13 rating until 1984, meaning that PG included everything just short of being rated R (other films that were rated PG include Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom (yes with the hearts getting ripped out) and Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan (with the mind-controlling parasites that crawl in your ear and the murder victims hanging from the ceiling).

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: This was the first Disney movie to bear a PG rating. This trope ultimately led to the creation of Creator/TouchstonePictures, to deal with more adult fare. Further, there was no PG-13 rating until 1984, meaning that PG included everything just short of being rated R (other films that were rated PG include Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom (yes with the hearts getting ripped out) and Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan (with the mind-controlling parasites that crawl in your ear and the murder victims hanging from the ceiling). The notion of a PG-rated Disney film in which characters are brutally KilledOffForReal and the last few minutes consist of an idealized depiction of Hell, was ''extremely'' controversial in 1979 and was a primary reason why the film underperformed: diehard sci-fi fans ignored it because, well, it was ''Disney'', and many parents kept their kids at home rather than take them to a PG-rated Disney film.
5th Jun '16 10:48:23 AM Ma35tro
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Maximillian abandon Dr. Reinhardt at the end, or did he just not have the ability to send the elevator back up? Either is possible for such a cold and murderous machine.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Maximillian [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere abandon Dr. Reinhardt at the end, end]], or did he just not have the ability to send the elevator back up? Either is possible for such a cold and murderous machine.
19th May '16 3:23:14 PM Zeiss
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* ActorAllusion: Alex Durant, played by Anthony Perkins, [[spoiler:gets slashed to death by Maximilian's blades]]. Perkins is immortalized for the role of [[Film/{{Psycho}} Norman Bates]].
22nd Apr '16 10:55:06 AM spydre
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* AwesomeMusic: Say what you like about the movie, but Creator/JohnBarry's Bond-meets-Lovecraft score is phenomenal.

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* AwesomeMusic: Say what you like about the movie, but Creator/JohnBarry's Music/JohnBarry's Bond-meets-Lovecraft score is phenomenal.
22nd Apr '16 10:54:02 AM spydre
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* AwesomeMusic: Say what you like about the movie, but Creator/JohnBarry's Bond-meets-Lovecraft score is phenomenal.
21st Mar '16 3:42:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* IdiotBall / SomethingWeForgot:
** Reinhardt would've avoided so much trouble if he had just remembered to keep [=B.O.B.=] out of reach from the Palomino crew instead of letting it become pals with [=V.I.N.CENT=] and telling it what actually happened to the crew of the ''Cygnus''...no one else on the ship could have told them anything, since they're all robots without speech capability.
** In the novelization, B.O.B. explains that Reinhardt and Maximillian missed reprogramming him to be obedient, as they did all the other robots on the ship, because he was deactivated [[spoiler: during the mutiny]], and he has survived with his personality intact since then by acting like he had been reprogrammed.
* PlayingGertrude: Maximillian Schell was 48-49 during filming. Reinhardt was probably supposed to be at least ten years older, given that he was not only missing in space for twenty years but was said to be the mission commander. Using the actor's age as a starting point, twenty years ago, he would have been a bit younger than Dan (who was probably only a Captain using the U.S. Army/Airforce ranking system, not Navy); closer to Charlie's age in fact. This is probably why the beard and gray were added to Schell's makeup.
* ShoutOut: [[spoiler: The journey through the black hole is mostly constructed out of a [[TheOner single long multiplane shot]] reminiscent of the ''Ave Maria'' segment of {{Film/Fantasia}}]].
21st Mar '16 3:29:21 PM avon
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* PlayingGertrude: Maximillian Schell was 48 during filming. Reinhardt was probably supposed to be at least ten years older, given that he was not only missing in space for twenty years but was said to be the mission commander. Twenty years ago, he would have been about Charlie's age if using Schell's age at the time as a starting point. This is probably why the beard and gray were added to Schell's makeup.

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* PlayingGertrude: Maximillian Schell was 48 48-49 during filming. Reinhardt was probably supposed to be at least ten years older, given that he was not only missing in space for twenty years but was said to be the mission commander. Twenty Using the actor's age as a starting point, twenty years ago, he would have been about a bit younger than Dan (who was probably only a Captain using the U.S. Army/Airforce ranking system, not Navy); closer to Charlie's age if using Schell's age at the time as a starting point.in fact. This is probably why the beard and gray were added to Schell's makeup.
21st Mar '16 3:23:56 PM avon
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* PlayingGertrude: Maximillian Schell was 48 during filming. Reinhardt was probably supposed to be at least ten years older, given that he was not only missing in space for twenty years but was said to be the mission commander. Twenty years ago, he would have been about Charlie's age if using Schell's age at the time as a starting point. This is probably why the beard and gray were added to Schell's makeup.
17th Feb '16 7:05:47 PM iluvcapra
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* ShoutOut: [[spoiler: The journey through the black hole is mostly constructed out of a [[TheOner single long multiplane shot]] reminiscent of the ''Ave Maria'' segment of {{Film/Fantasia}}.

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* ShoutOut: [[spoiler: The journey through the black hole is mostly constructed out of a [[TheOner single long multiplane shot]] reminiscent of the ''Ave Maria'' segment of {{Film/Fantasia}}.{{Film/Fantasia}}]].
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