History YMMV / TheAnimatrix

9th Feb '17 12:33:16 PM Forenperser
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* RootingForTheEmpire: ''The Second Renaissance'' can easily make the machines look like the good guys of the series. To wit, they are created as a slave race (and are severely punished for disobeying their "masters"), they make a number of attempts at peaceful coexistence, all of which are mucked up by [[HumansAreBastards a violent and uncaring humanity]], and they more or less are forced into warfare and subjugating the human race after the human military cuts off their main power supply. Based on this short, and the fact that - when you think about it - the machines more or less created the Matrix as a mercy to their former masters (they could just have easily left them chained to their power-pods, considering that the original idea of having the Matrix powered by human neural activity got axed by ExecutiveMeddling), the viewer could be forgiven for coming to the conclusion that they've spent the series rooting for the wrong side. '''However''', considering that A) the Machines never consider things like leaving for outer space, B) several segments of ''The Second Renaissance'' do seem suspiciously vague, adding to the AlternateCharacterInterpretation of the propaganda angle above, and C) they do eventually resort to inhumane experiments far worse than what humanity did to them, it's virtually impossible to consider them "good" without stretching the definition beyond most parameters/white washing their actions.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: ''The Second Renaissance'' can easily make the machines look like the good guys of the series. To wit, they are created as a slave race (and are severely punished for disobeying their "masters"), they make a number of attempts at peaceful coexistence, all of which are mucked up by [[HumansAreBastards a violent and uncaring humanity]], and they more or less are forced into warfare and subjugating the human race after the human military cuts off their main power supply. Based on this short, and the fact that - when you think about it - the machines more or less created the Matrix as a mercy to their former masters (they could just have easily left them chained to their power-pods, considering that the original idea of having the Matrix powered by human neural activity got axed by ExecutiveMeddling), the viewer could be forgiven for coming to the conclusion that they've spent the series rooting for the wrong side. '''However''', considering that A) the Machines never consider things like leaving for outer space, B) several segments of ''The Second Renaissance'' do seem suspiciously vague, adding to the AlternateCharacterInterpretation of the propaganda angle above, and C) they do eventually resort to inhumane experiments far worse than what humanity did to them, it's virtually impossible to consider them "good" without stretching the definition beyond most parameters/white washing their actions.
11th Jan '17 11:44:19 AM jjjj2
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** FridgeBrilliance: Blotting out the sun actually makes perfect sense... ''for the machines'', thus further supporting the interpretation of the narrator of this segment being an UnreliableNarrator. If the machines block out the Sun, they can use geothermal/nuclear/wind/etc power to replace solar. Humanity on the other hand has no real choice but to die off by the billions. As a plan by the humans for stopping the machine uprising, it makes no sense. As a plan by the machines for committing genocide against humanity, it's downright brilliant.
7th Jan '17 3:29:05 PM MonsieurThenardier
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** FridgeBrilliance: Blotting out the sun actually makes perfect sense... ''for the machines'', thus further supporting the interpretation of the narrator of this segment being an UnreliableNarrator. If the machines block out the Sun, they can use geothermal/nuclear/wind/etc power to replace solar. Humanity on the other hand has no real choice but to die off by the billions. As a plan by the humans for stopping the machine uprising, it makes no sense. As a plan by the machines for committing genocide against humanity, it's downright brilliant.
20th Dec '16 11:15:35 AM brianify
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** The battle between the humans and the machines shows the earlier models of machine faring poorly and being destroyed wholesale, with later, deadlier models ending the war in a brutally sadistic fashion. The progression seems to imply a change among the machines themselves, who under pressure evolve from trying to peacefully coexist with humans to the more familiar version that is far more deadly, fearsome, and cruel.
13th Oct '16 5:47:02 PM Pysiewicz
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The first part "The Second Renaissance" beats the HumansAreBastards message into the audience's brains so much (humans murders robots in several direct parallels real life acts of genocide, humans engage in moments of StupidEvil like permanently blotting out the sun, all the major world religions sanction war against the machines) that it comes off as hyperbolic and unbelievable, hence the idea that the narrator is an UnreliableNarrator.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The first part "The Second Renaissance" beats the HumansAreBastards message into the audience's brains so much (humans murders robots in several direct parallels real life acts of genocide, humans engage in moments of StupidEvil like permanently blotting out the sun, all the major world religions sanction war against the machines) machines, ''including Tibetan monks'') that it comes off as hyperbolic and unbelievable, hence the idea that the narrator is an UnreliableNarrator.


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* SignatureScene: For entire antology, it's the dojo scene from ''Final Flight of the Osiris''.
** ''The Second Renaissance'' has a robotic version of the HorsemenOfTheApocalypse, which marks a change from somewhat realistic tone to absolutely surreal experience of incoming scenes.
** In case of ''Program'', Cis cutting through Duo's mask and landing on his own spear.
30th Aug '16 1:36:04 PM Cieloazul
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many interpret the Instructor from the ''The Second Renaissance'' segments as an UnreliableNarrator who built the whole thing as pro-machine propaganda.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many Judging for how cartoonishly biased against mankind the entire chronicle is, many interpret the Instructor from the ''The Second Renaissance'' segments as an UnreliableNarrator who built the whole thing as pro-machine propaganda.


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* NarmCharm: The Spanish dub was made over a ''very'' shoddy translation, which alters many lines and makes them sound awkward most of the time. However, it also changes the line said by the soldier who is wrenched out of his MiniMecha in "The Second Renaissance" to a considerably better effect: in the original it is just a generic exclamation of fear, while the dub renders it as the same line said by the robot murdered by the human mob ("I don't want to die!"), making it a brilliant IronicEcho.
4th May '16 1:22:45 PM Mullon
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* {{Anvilicious}}: "The Second Renaissance" takes time to show that the war against the machines was sanctioned by all the major world religions.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The first part "The Second Renaissance" takes time to show that beats the war against HumansAreBastards message into the machines was sanctioned by audience's brains so much (humans murders robots in several direct parallels real life acts of genocide, humans engage in moments of StupidEvil like permanently blotting out the sun, all the major world religions.religions sanction war against the machines) that it comes off as hyperbolic and unbelievable, hence the idea that the narrator is an UnreliableNarrator.
1st May '16 11:34:21 AM StrixObscuro
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* {{Anvilicious}}: "The Second Renaissance" takes time to show that the war against the machines was sanctioned by all the major world religions.



* IdiotPlot: Even if [[GodzillaThreshold you're desperate]], blotting out the sun is a terrible, ''terrible'', '''terrible''' idea. Even if it is the robots main energy source, it's also ''our'' main energy source!

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* IdiotPlot: Even if [[GodzillaThreshold you're desperate]], blotting out the sun is a terrible, ''terrible'', '''terrible''' idea. Even if it is the robots robots' main energy source, it's also ''our'' main energy source!
30th Jul '15 7:04:07 PM jjjj2
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* IdiotPlot: Even if [[GodzillaThreshold you're desperate]], blotting out the sun is a terrible, ''terrible'', '''terrible''' idea. Even if it is the robots main energy source it's our main energy source.

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* IdiotPlot: Even if [[GodzillaThreshold you're desperate]], blotting out the sun is a terrible, ''terrible'', '''terrible''' idea. Even if it is the robots main energy source source, it's our also ''our'' main energy source.source!
30th Jul '15 7:02:32 PM jjjj2
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* IdiotPlot: Even if [[GodzillaThreshold you're desperate]], blotting out the sun is a terrible, ''terrible'', '''terrible''' idea. Even if it is the robots main energy source it's our main energy source.
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