History YMMV / The39Clues

22nd Apr '18 2:37:54 AM The12thDoctor
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** [[KilledOffForReal The killing of minor and major characters]] ([[spoiler:William [=McIntyre=], Erasmus, Luna Amato, Alistair Oh, Natalie Kabra, Evan Tollier, Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper III]] was criticized for being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids too dark]], [[SacrificialLion cheap ways to raise the stakes]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter complete wastes of interesting characters]]. In this series, while there is only one minor character who dies ([[spoiler:Pony]]), no other significant characters bite the bullet by the end, which was praised, because the stakes were still high without needing to resort to pointless deaths.

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** [[KilledOffForReal The killing of minor and major characters]] ([[spoiler:William [=McIntyre=], Erasmus, Luna Amato, Alistair Oh, Natalie Kabra, Evan Tollier, Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper III]] III]]) was criticized for being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids too dark]], [[SacrificialLion cheap ways to raise the stakes]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter complete wastes of interesting characters]]. In this series, while there is only one minor character who dies ([[spoiler:Pony]]), no other significant characters bite the bullet by the end, which was praised, because the stakes were still high without needing to resort to pointless deaths.
12th Apr '18 12:05:46 AM The12thDoctor
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** [[KilledOffForReal The killing of minor and major characters ([[spoiler:William [=McIntyre=], Erasmus, Luna Amato, Alistair Oh, Natalie Kabra, Evan Tollier, Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper III]] was criticized for being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids too dark]], [[SacrificialLion cheap ways to raise the stakes]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter complete wastes of interesting characters]]. In this series, while there is only one minor character who dies ([[spoiler:Pony]]), no other significant characters bite the bullet by the end, which was praised, because the stakes were still high without needing to resort to pointless deaths.

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** [[KilledOffForReal The killing of minor and major characters characters]] ([[spoiler:William [=McIntyre=], Erasmus, Luna Amato, Alistair Oh, Natalie Kabra, Evan Tollier, Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper III]] was criticized for being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids too dark]], [[SacrificialLion cheap ways to raise the stakes]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter complete wastes of interesting characters]]. In this series, while there is only one minor character who dies ([[spoiler:Pony]]), no other significant characters bite the bullet by the end, which was praised, because the stakes were still high without needing to resort to pointless deaths.
12th Apr '18 12:04:57 AM The12thDoctor
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The third series, ''Unstoppable'', set to right a few wrongs from the second series, "Day of Doom":
** The EvilPlan of the Vespers ([[spoiler:Using a DoomsdayDevice to destroy the world]]) was deemed too cliché. This time, the main villain's plan is to [[spoiler:mass-reproduce the master serum for him and his closest allies, then become the United States President and start a new World War to garner support for him]]. This was seen as superior.
** [[KilledOffForReal The killing of minor and major characters ([[spoiler:William [=McIntyre=], Erasmus, Luna Amato, Alistair Oh, Natalie Kabra, Evan Tollier, Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper III]] was criticized for being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids too dark]], [[SacrificialLion cheap ways to raise the stakes]] and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter complete wastes of interesting characters]]. In this series, while there is only one minor character who dies ([[spoiler:Pony]]), no other significant characters bite the bullet by the end, which was praised, because the stakes were still high without needing to resort to pointless deaths.
** [[spoiler:When Dan failed to drink the master serum because of Amy and Isabel preventing him, it was deemed a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted opportunity]] to explore themes of absolute power's corruption and morality. This plot line returns with a vengeance, with Amy drinking the serum in "Countdown". As a result, her story onwards from that point was loved by fans, who thought her struggles with the physical and psychological effects of the master serum were compelling to read about]].
** [[spoiler:The [[SurprisinglyHappyEnding surprisingly]] [[EsotericHappyEnding happy ending]], with the world saved, and Amy and Amy and Dan happily heading off to resume their lives, was mocked due to it's ignorance of all the heavy emotional scarring that the Vespers' presence would bring. The first book of this series, "Nowhere to Run", showed, right off the bat, that Dan and Amy are '''not''' okay with how the Vespers manipulated them, as they harbor PTSD over this. Not only that, they have been having tutors instead of school, just so they can feel safe]].
** The RomanticPlotTumor of [[spoiler:Amy and Jake]] getting together was savaged for the [[OutOfCharacterMoment OOC moments]] that it created for [[spoiler:Amy]], the [[spoiler:LoveConfession being written cheesily]], and the mere notion that [[spoiler:by "Day of Doom", Amy still wanted to continue her newly-budded relationship with Jake, despite her former boyfriend Evan dying just days ago]]. A subplot was created for this series, with [[spoiler:Amy repeatedly trying to force Jake away to keep him safe, and remain JustFriends, as she clearly still grieves for Evan]]. [[BrokenBase Whether this worked is up for debate]].


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** The exclusion of the Rosenblossom brothers in the fourth series, ''Doublecross''. Was it beneficial, as they were [[TheScrappy scrappies]] that kept badgering the plot, or a terrible idea, as they brought levity to the story?


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* HolyShitQuotient: TheReveal of [[spoiler:Cara Pierce actually being April May]]. Absolutely no one predicted this, always assuming that [[spoiler:they were two separate people]].


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A subplot of the second series involves Dan collecting the 39 Clues again, so that he can create the master serum, drink it and use his newfound boost to stop the Vespers. With this idea, the concepts of absolute power corrupting absolutely could be explored, for a person increasingly teetering on the verge of darkness like Dan. Therefore, when it came to the last book, [[spoiler:he succeeds in drinking it... [[AntiClimax only for Amy to find out beforehand and switch it with a mixture of vegetables. Dan also planned ahead in an occasion like this, making a second one... but it ended up being stolen by Isabel Kabra.]] This was mocked by many who wanted to see what would happen if Dan did have the serum's abilities. Thankfully, the third series actually delved into this idea fully, but used a different character: Amy]].
24th Mar '18 4:08:05 AM Synchronicity
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* BrokenBase: The [[AllThereInTheManual trading cards and website,]] especially the cards. Why? In the opinion of many fans, the pictures of the characters on the trading cards do not live up to the characters' descriptions in the books or the way that readers imagined the characters to look like, or else simply do not look appealing (a common complaint is that Ian and Evan look too much like Music/JustinBieber). The rest of the fans either like the pictures on the trading cards, or just like the trading cards and couldn't care less about what the pictures look like.

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The [[AllThereInTheManual trading cards and website,]] especially the cards. Why? In the opinion of many fans, the pictures of the characters on the trading cards do not live up to the characters' descriptions in the books or the way that readers imagined the characters to look like, or else simply do not look appealing (a common complaint is that Ian and Evan look too much like Music/JustinBieber). The rest of the fans either like the pictures on the trading cards, or just like the trading cards and couldn't care less about what the pictures look like.



* DieForOurShip: Fans of [[FanPreferredCouple Amy/Ian]] have been known to behave extremely aggressively towards any and all opposing pairings, bashing [[LikeBrotherAndSister Hamilton]], [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], and [[SecondLove Ev]][[OfficialCouple an]], complete with a plethora of RevengeFic for the latter two.

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Fans of [[FanPreferredCouple Amy/Ian]] have been known to behave extremely aggressively towards any and all opposing pairings, bashing [[LikeBrotherAndSister Hamilton]], [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], and [[SecondLove Ev]][[OfficialCouple an]], complete with a plethora of RevengeFic for the latter two.



** I thought FoeYay was supposed to be ''subtext''. Amy and Ian are practically the OfficialCouple... at least in the first series.



* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: The ending of ''The Sword Thief'', where Alistair fakes his death to escape and later in the first series, when he pretends to die of heart failure to trick his EvilUncle, are not nearly as amusing after reading ''Trust No One'', where he is KilledOffForReal as a result of a seizure.]]
** [[spoiler: Ian's thoughts when his sister is kidnapped aren't exactly uplifting to begin with, but they become even more painful after she dies, along with their estranged mother.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: HarsherInHindsight:
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The ending of ''The Sword Thief'', where Alistair [[spoiler: fakes his death to escape and later in the first series, when he pretends to die of heart failure to trick his EvilUncle, are not nearly as amusing after reading ''Trust No One'', where he is KilledOffForReal dies as a result of a seizure.]]
** [[spoiler: Ian's thoughts when [[spoiler: his sister is kidnapped aren't exactly uplifting to begin with, but they become even more painful after she dies, along with their estranged mother.]]



* JerkassWoobie: Ian and Natalie become this after they undergo a lot of CharacterDevelopment. And their [[EvilMatriarch scary mother]] shows up... [[spoiler: and eventually tries to kill them, along with the other Cahills]].
** And by the end of the ''Cahills vs. Vespers'' series, Ian has it even worse than before. [[spoiler: His sister, the only person he really had left, is killed in ''Day of Doom.'' Their mother, Isabel, finally shows a shred of humanity upon learning of Natalie's death--but in her rage, she drinks the master serum and ends up dead, as well (though not without a glorious DyingMomentOfAwesome). His father is still in hiding and seems to want nothing to do with him. And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg, considering all the issues that being raised by Isabel left him with, as well as the fact that not everyone in the Cahill family completely trusts him yet.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
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Ian and Natalie become this after they undergo a lot of CharacterDevelopment. And their [[EvilMatriarch scary mother]] shows up... [[spoiler: and eventually tries to kill them, along with the other Cahills]].
** And Ian specifically has it worse by the end of the ''Cahills vs. Vespers'' series, Ian has it even worse than before.series. [[spoiler: His sister, the only person he really had left, is killed in ''Day of Doom.'' Their mother, Isabel, finally shows a shred of humanity upon learning of Natalie's death--but in her rage, she drinks the master serum and ends up dead, as well (though not without a glorious DyingMomentOfAwesome). His father is still in hiding and seems to want nothing to do with him. And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg, considering all the issues that being raised by Isabel left him with, as well as the fact that not everyone in the Cahill family completely trusts him yet.]]



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--Ian Kabra, [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with Casper Wyoming and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.

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In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--Ian Kabra, [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with Casper Wyoming and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.



* RonTheDeathEater: Quite frequently for [[DieForOurShip Evan Tolliver and Kurt]]. The most commonly found demonization is making them turn out to be undercover Vespers, but fanfiction involving Evan suddenly dumping Amy is also becoming common.

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Quite frequently for [[DieForOurShip Evan Tolliver and Kurt]]. The most commonly found demonization is making them turn out to be undercover Vespers, but fanfiction involving Evan suddenly dumping Amy is also becoming common.



* TheWoobie: Dan and Amy.

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Dan and Amy.
13th May '17 11:22:14 PM The12thDoctor
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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''One False Note'', while Nellie is waiting for Amy and Dan, who are pursuing their Korean cousin, Alistair Oh, she states (in her thoughts) that if Alistair would do anything horrible to them, she would beat him to death with his own diamond-tipped cane, wrapped in barbed wire. When ''Comicbook/TheWalkingDead'' introduced a villain named Negan, who wielded a barbed wire-wrapped baseball bat, [[WhamEpisode his imfamous first act, to show that he was not to be messed with, was to repeatedly bludgeon to death a main character, Glenn]], who was also Korean.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''One False Note'', while Nellie is waiting for Amy and Dan, who are pursuing their Korean cousin, Alistair Oh, she states (in her thoughts) that if Alistair would do anything horrible to them, she would beat him to death with "feed him" his own diamond-tipped cane, wrapped in barbed wire. When ''Comicbook/TheWalkingDead'' introduced a villain named Negan, who wielded a barbed wire-wrapped baseball bat, [[WhamEpisode his imfamous first act, to show that he was not to be messed with, was to repeatedly bludgeon to death a main character, Glenn]], who was also Korean.
12th May '17 7:44:09 PM The12thDoctor
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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''One False Note'', while Nellie is waiting for Amy and Dan, who are pursuing their Korean cousin, Alistair Oh, she states (in her thoughts) that if Alistair would do anything horrible to them, she would beat him to death with his own diamond-tipped cane, wrapped in barbed wire. When ''Comicbook/TheWalkingDead'' introduced a villain named Negan, who wielded a barbed wire-wrapped baseball bat, [[WhamEpisode his imfamous first act, to show that he was not to be messed with, was to repeatedly bludgeon to death a main character, Glenn]], who was also Korean.
13th Apr '17 3:09:44 PM MagBas
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* FanDumb: [[https://www.fanfiction.net/r/5773510/ Most of the entire review section for this fanfic]], where there is gigantic amounts of DieForOurShip.



* GodModeSue: What you will become if you drink the master serum.
** [[spoiler: And Isabel did.]]
3rd Jun '16 2:05:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--Ian Kabra, [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with [[BlondGuysAreEvil Casper Wyoming]] and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--Ian Kabra, [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with [[BlondGuysAreEvil Casper Wyoming]] Wyoming and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.
6th May '16 2:09:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* AngelDevilShipping: The [[FanPreferredCouple very popular]] [[ShrinkingViolet Amy]]/[[HandsomeDevil Ian]] pairing.

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* AngelDevilShipping: The [[FanPreferredCouple very popular]] [[ShrinkingViolet Amy]]/[[HandsomeDevil Ian]] Amy]]/Ian pairing.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--[[HandsomeDevil Ian Kabra]], [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with [[BlondGuysAreEvil Casper Wyoming]] and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: In canon itself, [[BadassBookworm Amy Cahill]]--[[HandsomeDevil Ian Kabra]], Cahill]]--Ian Kabra, [[GirlOfTheWeek Kurt]], [[NiceGuy Evan Tolliver]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jake Rosenbloom]] (to say nothing of {{Fanon}}, which has shipped her with [[TheBigGuy Hamilton Holt]], [[WellDoneSonGuy Jonah Wizard]], and [[TheSmartGuy Ned and Ted Starling]], among others). Then, in fanon, we have [[TeenGenius Sinead Starling]]. The most popular Sinead ships are [[BrainsAndBrawn Sinead/Hamilton]] and [[SnarkToSnarkCombat Sinead/Jonah]], but she has also been shipped with [[BlondGuysAreEvil Casper Wyoming]] and occasionally [[PairTheSmartOnes Ian]], and even fanfiction shipping her with [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Dan Cahill]], [[BrotherSisterIncest Ned]], or [[LesYay Amy]] have made appearances.
7th Jan '15 3:54:28 PM bookworm11
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*** It's also popular to think that "Amy" is a nickname for "Amelia." While the former can be a shortened form of the longer name, it can also stand on its own.
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