History YMMV / Tekken

25th Jul '17 1:54:20 PM jameygamer
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** Kazumi Mushima, built up as this huge part of the Mishima storyline from the trailers and interviews, ended up being an afterthought denied her story relevance in favor of Akuma. Devil Kazumi should have been the one to hunt down Kazuya and Heihachi for the sake of the world in place of Akuma, there's far more interesting interactions and development in that scenario due to her family ties.

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** Kazumi Mushima, Mishima, built up as this huge part of the Mishima storyline from the trailers and interviews, ended up being an afterthought denied her story relevance in favor of Akuma. Devil Kazumi should have been the one to hunt down Kazuya and Heihachi for the sake of the world in place of Akuma, there's far more interesting interactions and development in that scenario due to her family ties.
25th Jul '17 1:51:42 PM jameygamer
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** Bryan Fury's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhSt_z5gY ending]] in Tekken Tag Tournament is this coupled with AdultFear. Even the most hardened policeman would shake in their boots after [[spoiler: seeing a man shrug off three gunshots. (One of which was aimed at his face.)]]
** The entirety of Unknown's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2GMdw8TztM ending]] in Tekken Tag 1 consists of this, reaching its peak at the end when she [[DissonantSerenity stares into the camera]]. It doesn't help that her ending is the only CG ending in the game.

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** Bryan Fury's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhSt_z5gY ending]] in Tekken ''Tekken Tag Tournament Tournament'' is this coupled with AdultFear. Even the most hardened policeman would shake in their boots after [[spoiler: seeing a man shrug off three gunshots. (One of which was aimed at his face.)]]
** The entirety of Unknown's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2GMdw8TztM ending]] in Tekken ''Tekken Tag 1 1'' consists of this, reaching its peak at the end when she [[DissonantSerenity stares into the camera]]. It doesn't help that her ending is the only CG ending in the game.
25th Jul '17 1:49:43 PM jameygamer
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** One of Lei's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCY1N5cHx30 Story interludes]] in Tekken 5 has him attempting to place [[HumanoidAbomination Jinpachi]] under arrest. It's not supposed to be comedic, but certainly comes across that way.

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** One of Lei's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCY1N5cHx30 Story interludes]] in Tekken 5 ''Tekken 5'' has him attempting to place [[HumanoidAbomination Jinpachi]] under arrest. It's not supposed to be comedic, but certainly comes across that way.
25th Jul '17 1:41:55 PM jameygamer
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*** Then there's the features that ''Tekken 7'' lacks in comparison to ''TTT2'' - namely Ghost Battle and Tekken Tunes. ''Tekken 7'' [[ReplacementScrappy tries to replace both with new features, but they both fall short]] - instead of Ghost Battle, we have Treasure Battle, which is the same basic thing, except it drops custom parts faster, and doesn't actually download ghost data, which was the whole point of the mode - and instead of Tekken Tunes, we have Jukebox, which, instead of letting the player change the BGMs to any sound file they care to import to their PS4, lets the player change the BGMs to...other Tekken music. Which is something Tekken Tunes already let you do anyway if you just imported other Tekken music.

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*** Then there's the features that ''Tekken 7'' lacks in comparison to ''TTT2'' ''[=TTT2=]'' - namely Ghost Battle and Tekken Tunes. ''Tekken 7'' [[ReplacementScrappy tries to replace both with new features, but they both fall short]] - instead of Ghost Battle, we have Treasure Battle, which is the same basic thing, except it drops custom parts faster, and doesn't actually download ghost data, which was the whole point of the mode - and instead of Tekken Tunes, we have Jukebox, which, instead of letting the player change the BGMs [=BGMs=] to any sound file they care to import to their PS4, lets the player change the BGMs [=BGMs=] to...other Tekken ''Tekken'' music. Which is something Tekken Tunes already let you do anyway if you just imported other Tekken ''Tekken'' music.
25th Jul '17 1:40:50 PM jameygamer
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*** Then there's the features that Tekken 7 lacks in comparison to TTT2 - namely Ghost Battle and Tekken Tunes. Tekken 7 [[ReplacementScrappy tries to replace both with new features, but they both fall short]] - instead of Ghost Battle, we have Treasure Battle, which is the same basic thing, except it drops custom parts faster, and doesn't actually download ghost data, which was the whole point of the mode - and instead of Tekken Tunes, we have Jukebox, which, instead of letting the player change the BGMs to any sound file they care to import to their PS4, lets the player change the BGMs to...other Tekken music. Which is something Tekken Tunes already let you do anyway if you just imported other Tekken music.

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*** Then there's the features that Tekken 7 ''Tekken 7'' lacks in comparison to TTT2 ''TTT2'' - namely Ghost Battle and Tekken Tunes. Tekken 7 ''Tekken 7'' [[ReplacementScrappy tries to replace both with new features, but they both fall short]] - instead of Ghost Battle, we have Treasure Battle, which is the same basic thing, except it drops custom parts faster, and doesn't actually download ghost data, which was the whole point of the mode - and instead of Tekken Tunes, we have Jukebox, which, instead of letting the player change the BGMs to any sound file they care to import to their PS4, lets the player change the BGMs to...other Tekken music. Which is something Tekken Tunes already let you do anyway if you just imported other Tekken music.
25th Jul '17 1:35:42 PM jameygamer
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** The bound mechanic that allows players to bounce their opponents off the ground to continue their juggles. Both its inclusion in 6 and Tag 2 and its later toning down to the point of it nearly being gone in Tekken 7.

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** The bound mechanic that allows players to bounce their opponents off the ground to continue their juggles. Both its inclusion in 6 ''6'' and Tag 2 ''Tag 2'' and its later toning down to the point of it nearly being gone in Tekken 7.''Tekken 7''.
25th Jul '17 1:33:05 PM jameygamer
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Both Katsuhiro Harada, and both over the paid DLC situation of recent Tekken titles.
** Due to the outcry over the Street Fighter X Tekken DLC, he announced all the post-release content for ''Tag Tournament 2'' would be free and only the Tekken Tunes mode would have paid add-ons, which were strictly optional.
** With Tekken 7: Fated Retribution's console release, Harada stated that ''classic'' Tekken characters, ''if ''they return one day, would not be paid DLC, with the two additional guest characters, plus some optional bonus content being paid solely to cover development costs for the additional content and updates.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Both Katsuhiro Harada, and both over the paid DLC situation of recent Tekken ''Tekken'' titles.
** Due to the outcry over the Street ''Street Fighter X Tekken Tekken'' DLC, he announced all the post-release content for ''Tag Tournament 2'' would be free and only the Tekken Tunes mode would have paid add-ons, which were strictly optional.
** With Tekken ''Tekken 7: Fated Retribution's Retribution's'' console release, Harada stated that ''classic'' Tekken characters, ''if ''they return one day, would not be paid DLC, with the two additional guest characters, plus some optional bonus content being paid solely to cover development costs for the additional content and updates.



** The lack of fleshed out story modes for almost all the cast in Tekken 7 has become a big problem for most of the fanbase. The character stories are universally considered a letdown. Some are mad with their favorite characters getting the shaft in favor of the Mishimas and Akuma, or the story doesn't matter and they are there for the amazing Tekken gameplay.

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** The lack of fleshed out story modes for almost all the cast in Tekken 7 ''Tekken 7'' has become a big problem for most of the fanbase. The character stories are universally considered a letdown. Some are mad with their favorite characters getting the shaft in favor of the Mishimas and Akuma, or the story doesn't matter and they are there for the amazing Tekken ''Tekken'' gameplay.
25th Jul '17 1:14:37 PM jameygamer
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** Kazuya and Heihachi are... [[EvilVsEvil still not clear on who's worse]]. On one hand, Heihachi can have some PetTheDog moments (especially where [[MoralityPet Kuma]] is involved), but in the end, he's still a greedy bastard who's more cunning in manipulating things to be steered to his likings, and still responsible for everything in this mess. Kazuya bounces back between merely a victim of what Heihachi was planning, thus making him so messed up, but then his atrocities from Tekken 2 on are far more open and shown to be worse than what Heihachi did: either he's just that bad, or [[AtLeastIAdmitIt he's just more proud to admit the crimes rather than hiding behind a facade]].

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** Kazuya and Heihachi are... [[EvilVsEvil still not clear on who's worse]]. On one hand, Heihachi can have some PetTheDog moments (especially where [[MoralityPet Kuma]] is involved), but in the end, he's still a greedy bastard who's more cunning in manipulating things to be steered to his likings, and still responsible for everything in this mess. Kazuya bounces back between merely a victim of what Heihachi was planning, thus making him so messed up, but then his atrocities from Tekken 2 ''Tekken 2'' on are far more open and shown to be worse than what Heihachi did: either he's just that bad, or [[AtLeastIAdmitIt he's just more proud to admit the crimes rather than hiding behind a facade]].
23rd Jul '17 9:46:17 AM nombretomado
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The later ''Tekken'' games have been criticized for how whacky and out-of-place the new characters are, with many of them being clearly {{anime}}-influenced, and that they didn't fit in game which was supposed to be game about fighters using relatively realistic martial art styles. It reached a boiling point with Lucky Chloe, a {{kawaii}} pop idol girl who speaks in GratuitousEnglish and fights using [[DanceBattler dance moves]], making her quite possibly the most hated character [[AmericansHateTingle for western audiences]]. However, these kinds of whacky characters have been present since the beginning -- Yoshimitsu was a cyborg ninja that seemed a little out of place amid a roster of martial artists. Not to mention [[BearsAreBadNews Kuma]], [[MechaMooks Jack bots]], and [[BoxingKangaroo Roger]] were in the first two games as well. And the anime influence? Been there since ''3'', with Xiaoyu's anime-style ending and her character hitting most of GenkiGirl cliches found in anime.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The later ''Tekken'' games have been criticized for how whacky and out-of-place the new characters are, with many of them being clearly {{anime}}-influenced, and that they didn't fit in game which was supposed to be game about fighters using relatively realistic martial art styles. It reached a boiling point with Lucky Chloe, a {{kawaii}} [[{{UsefulNotes/Kawaisa}} kawaii]] pop idol girl who speaks in GratuitousEnglish and fights using [[DanceBattler dance moves]], making her quite possibly the most hated character [[AmericansHateTingle for western audiences]]. However, these kinds of whacky characters have been present since the beginning -- Yoshimitsu was a cyborg ninja that seemed a little out of place amid a roster of martial artists. Not to mention [[BearsAreBadNews Kuma]], [[MechaMooks Jack bots]], and [[BoxingKangaroo Roger]] were in the first two games as well. And the anime influence? Been there since ''3'', with Xiaoyu's anime-style ending and her character hitting most of GenkiGirl cliches found in anime.
23rd Jul '17 12:24:56 AM arrgh
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* StuckInTheirShadow: Nina's status as ''Tekken'''s poster girl seems to have been supplanted by Lili in recent years. Advertisements have put more focus on Lili than Nina, fans have put much more adoration in Lili, and Lili was one of the first characters revealed for ''Tekken 7'', while Nina had to wait until ''Fated Retribution'' until she's included. It probably helps that Lili's personality is far more charismatic and charming compared to the sexy but [[IceQueen extremely cold-blooded]] Nina.

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* StuckInTheirShadow: Nina's status as ''Tekken'''s poster girl seems to have been supplanted by Lili in recent years. Advertisements have put more focus on Lili than Nina, fans have put much more adoration in Lili, and Lili was one of the first characters revealed for ''Tekken 7'', while Nina had to wait until ''Fated Retribution'' until she's included. It probably helps that Lili's personality is far more charismatic tsundere and charming compared to the sexy but [[IceQueen extremely cold-blooded]] Nina.
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