History YMMV / TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987

17th Nov '16 1:40:58 AM rafi
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* AccidentalInnuendo: "Donatello does machines!"
** Made even more hilarious by the fact that he's the only turtle without an official LoveInterest. Though it's been implied that Irma does canonically have a bit of crush on Donatello in several episodes such as "Sky Turtles" and "Invasion Of The Turtle Snatchers", which means that he's [[ShrinkingViolet really shy]], or ObliviousToLove, unless he's actually {{Robosexual}}.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: "Donatello does machines!"
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machines!". Made even more hilarious by the fact that he's the only turtle without an official LoveInterest. Though it's been implied that Irma does canonically have a bit of crush on Donatello in several episodes such as "Sky Turtles" and "Invasion Of The Turtle Snatchers", which means that he's [[ShrinkingViolet really shy]], or ObliviousToLove, unless he's actually {{Robosexual}}.



* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Shredder's teasing of April. Is he just trying to piss her off or does he have a genuine VillainousCrush on her?
** This is actually ''strongly implied'' in a few episodes.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Shredder's teasing of April. Is he just trying to piss her off or does he have a genuine VillainousCrush on her?
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her? This is actually ''strongly implied'' in a few episodes.



* BrokenBase: Were the "Red Sky seasons" (8, 9, and 10) any good?

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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Were the "Red Sky seasons" (8, 9, and 10) any good?



* CrazyAwesome: THE TECHNODROME.

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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyAwesome:
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THE TECHNODROME.



* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Most of the ShipTease between Kala and Mikey.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The opening theme for seasons 1-7 as well the "red sky" theme.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Most of the ShipTease between Kala and Mikey.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
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The opening theme for seasons 1-7 as well the "red sky" theme.



* EarWorm: The original theme.

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* EarWorm: EarWorm:
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The original theme.



** Main villains Shredder, Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady along with the Rat King.

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** Main villains Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Bebop and Rocksteady along with the Rocksteady.
** The
Rat King.



** This incarnation of Raphael became beloved by the fanbase due to being a DeadpanSnarker.



*** So much so, that [[spoiler: it seems that Nickelodeon has caught on to this, as some recent ForeShadowing in an episode of the 2012 series reveals a bespectacled caller by the name of Irma.]]



* EvilIsSexy: Tempestra.
** And Shreeka to some.
** Also [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Medusa]].

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* EvilIsSexy: EvilIsSexy:
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Tempestra.
** And Shreeka to some.
** Also [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Medusa]].



* FanonDiscontinuity: Seasons 8, 9 and 10, the "Red Sky" seasons. (Possibly CanonDiscontinuity, since ''TurtlesForever'' chose to ignore those seasons completely.)

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* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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Seasons 8, 9 and 10, the "Red Sky" seasons. (Possibly CanonDiscontinuity, since ''TurtlesForever'' chose to ignore those seasons completely.)



* GrowingTheBeard: Season Three, arguably, when compared to the somewhat lackluster Season Two. It wasn't ''consistently'' good, but contains the most fan favorites.

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* GrowingTheBeard: GrowingTheBeard:
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Season Three, arguably, when compared to the somewhat lackluster Season Two. It wasn't ''consistently'' good, but contains the most fan favorites.



* HilariousInHindsight: Lotus Blossom was introduced in the cartoon a few years before Karai debuted in the comics.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Lotus Blossom was introduced in the cartoon a few years before Karai debuted in the comics.



* IdiotPlot: The episode "Zach And The Alien Invaders" is ''easily'' the biggest offender of this in the entire series, considering that the whole premise is about Zach convincing the turtles that he's seen aliens, and robots, and other dangerous things that ended up being harmless, and getting in trouble for it. Because it's not like the turtles have ever fought aliens or robots ''before'', except you know like ''every'' episode where Krang and Shredder ''attack the turtles with the Foot Soldier robots'' which happens on a ''regular basis!'' Later on Zach does see aliens that are trying to take over the world, and helps the turtles stop them, but the episode basically sends the message that "it's OK not to listen to kids". To be fair the episode was trying to go for a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" type of Aesop, but didn't pull it off very well.

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* IdiotPlot: IdiotPlot:
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The episode "Zach And The Alien Invaders" is ''easily'' the biggest offender of this in the entire series, considering that the whole premise is about Zach convincing the turtles that he's seen aliens, and robots, and other dangerous things that ended up being harmless, and getting in trouble for it. Because it's not like the turtles have ever fought aliens or robots ''before'', except you know like ''every'' episode where Krang and Shredder ''attack the turtles with the Foot Soldier robots'' which happens on a ''regular basis!'' Later on Zach does see aliens that are trying to take over the world, and helps the turtles stop them, but the episode basically sends the message that "it's OK not to listen to kids". To be fair the episode was trying to go for a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" type of Aesop, but didn't pull it off very well.



* JerkassWoobie: Baxter Stockman. Starting out he was just trying to legally make money off his inventions and the Shredder offered him work, but then tried to murder him [[YouHaveOutLivedYourUsefulness to keep him from saying anything about his plans]], and after being rescued by the turtles his left died to telephone pull. In Season 2 he's shanghaied by Shredder into helping him again and the abuse he takes eventually turns him into a full blown villain and he's turned a mutant fly. Later he tries to make himself human again and the turtles stop him for no good reason by kicking him into a dimensional portal where he's apparently eaten by a spider monster. He's one of the least evil villains on the show but the only one with a (heavily implied) canon death.

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* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
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Baxter Stockman. Starting out he was just trying to legally make money off his inventions and the Shredder offered him work, but then tried to murder him [[YouHaveOutLivedYourUsefulness to keep him from saying anything about his plans]], and after being rescued by the turtles his left died to telephone pull. In Season 2 he's shanghaied by Shredder into helping him again and the abuse he takes eventually turns him into a full blown villain and he's turned a mutant fly. Later he tries to make himself human again and the turtles stop him for no good reason by kicking him into a dimensional portal where he's apparently eaten by a spider monster. He's one of the least evil villains on the show but the only one with a (heavily implied) canon death.



* MemeticMutation: "Cowabunga!" and "It's Pizza Time!"

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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"Cowabunga!" and "It's Pizza Time!"



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shredder crosses this in the first episode of season 8 when he actually ''destroys'' the Channel 6 building which takes it out of commission for the rest of the series.]]
** [[spoiler: In the same episode, it is stated by Bezerko that Krang committed genocide against his people, because he had no further use for them]].

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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[[spoiler: Shredder crosses this in the first episode of season 8 when he actually ''destroys'' the Channel 6 building which takes it out of commission for the rest of the series.]]
** *** [[spoiler: In the same episode, it is stated by Bezerko that Krang committed genocide against his people, because he had no further use for them]].



* TheScrappy: [[TagalongKid Zach]] and [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Howie]].
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However, Zach did have his share of valuable moments like when he saved April's life in "Bebop And Rocksteady Conquer The Universe" and the turtles' lives in "Night Of The Rogues", which both earned him a good amount of fans.

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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
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[[TagalongKid Zach]] and [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Howie]].
** *** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However, Zach did have his share of valuable moments like when he saved April's life in "Bebop And Rocksteady Conquer The Universe" and the turtles' lives in "Night Of The Rogues", which both earned him a good amount of fans.



* SoOkayItsAverage: Season Two is widely considered this: not as good as the short first season preceding it or the long third season following it, but perfectly watchable regardless. The "Eye of Sarnath" StoryArc and "Enter The Fly' are considered its highlights.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: SoOkayItsAverage:
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Season Two is widely considered this: not as good as the short first season preceding it or the long third season following it, but perfectly watchable regardless. The "Eye of Sarnath" StoryArc and "Enter The Fly' are considered its highlights.



* {{Squick}}: ''Those goddamn pizza toppings''. This may be why the Red Sky seasons did away with them completely.

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* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
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''Those goddamn pizza toppings''. This may be why the Red Sky seasons did away with them completely.



* TheWoobie: Michaelangelo has his moment of this when he thinks everyone forgot his birthday in "Michaelangelo's Birthday", which makes it even worse when he runs into Shredder.
** Also Splinter in "Splinter No More".

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Michaelangelo has his moment of this when he thinks everyone forgot his birthday in "Michaelangelo's Birthday", which makes it even worse when he runs into Shredder.
** Also Splinter in "Splinter No More".



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Mona Lisa.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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Mona Lisa.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: "Night Of The Living Rogues". Fed up with Bebop and Rocksteady's incompetence, Shredder gathers a large group of the Turtle's previous enemies to defeat them once and for all. The Turtles are completely helpless against the assembled baddies. So will this cause the the Turtles to call on all of their allies, like The Mutant Frogs, Usagi, Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa leading to a huge brawl between the groups? Nnnnnope. Instead, the Turtles just call on Casey Jones and Zach the "fifth turtle" for back up, and the villains run away at the end when it's pointed out that they're outnumbered. Keep in mind that one of those people is a kid, and the other two are April and Irma.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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"Night Of The Living Rogues". Fed up with Bebop and Rocksteady's incompetence, Shredder gathers a large group of the Turtle's previous enemies to defeat them once and for all. The Turtles are completely helpless against the assembled baddies. So will this cause the the Turtles to call on all of their allies, like The Mutant Frogs, Usagi, Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa leading to a huge brawl between the groups? Nnnnnope. Instead, the Turtles just call on Casey Jones and Zach the "fifth turtle" for back up, and the villains run away at the end when it's pointed out that they're outnumbered. Keep in mind that one of those people is a kid, and the other two are April and Irma.



* UglyCute: Baxter's half-fly form. D'awww. Strange, considering he was an apparently middle aged man beforehand.
** Some actually find his ''human self'' to be adorable, strangely enough.

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* UglyCute: UglyCute:
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Baxter's half-fly form. D'awww. Strange, considering he was an apparently middle aged man beforehand.
** *** Some actually find his ''human self'' to be adorable, strangely enough.



* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs
** Lampshaded in ''{{Turtles|Forever}} [[{{Crossover}} Forever]]''.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs
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WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Lampshaded in ''{{Turtles|Forever}} [[{{Crossover}} Forever]]''.



'''2003 Michelangelo''': This dimension is seriously messed up.

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'''2003 Michelangelo''': This dimension is seriously messed up.up.
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14th Nov '16 9:28:06 AM N8han11
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Splinter looks ''extremely pissed'' in the opening scene of ''"Leonardo, Renaissance Turtle"'' for no apparent reason.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: BigLippedAlligatorMoment:
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Splinter looks ''extremely pissed'' in the opening scene of ''"Leonardo, Renaissance Turtle"'' for no apparent reason.



*** This is actually FridgeBrilliance when you consider that the whole premise of the episode is Shredder trying to lure the turtles out of hiding by opening a pizza place with the weird pizza combinations that the turtles love. In real life it is very common for pregnant women to have tastes for strange food combinations, so this scene actually does makes perfect sense.
*** Still, the event happened out of nowhere and was never mentioned again. Also, not many children's cartoons have pregnant women.
6th Nov '16 5:53:40 PM Berrenta
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* InkStainAdaptation: Mainly to fans of the original Mirage comic book.
15th Oct '16 8:43:41 PM Mullon
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** Recently, posting weird and OffModel screenshots from the show has become popular on [[ImageBoards 4chan]], several of which have become minor memes of their own.

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** Recently, posting weird and OffModel screenshots from the show has become popular on [[ImageBoards 4chan]], Website/FourChan, several of which have become minor memes of their own.
17th Sep '16 10:53:50 AM FateStayWho
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** Any time Shredder and Krang rely on Bebop and Rocksteady for a plan but special mention goes to "Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop" when a plan to mind control New York failed because Bebop and Rocksteady's first attempt to install the machine damaged it causing it to malfunction. When Krang notices it's not working right his response, is to send them up to fix, rather than go himself or send Foot Soldiers, or anything else not effected by the machine. After he asks them how many more times they intend to fail, they state they will do so lots more.



* JerkassWoobie: Baxter Stockman. He's one of the least evil villains on the show but the only one with a (heavily implied) canon death.

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* JerkassWoobie: Baxter Stockman. Starting out he was just trying to legally make money off his inventions and the Shredder offered him work, but then tried to murder him [[YouHaveOutLivedYourUsefulness to keep him from saying anything about his plans]], and after being rescued by the turtles his left died to telephone pull. In Season 2 he's shanghaied by Shredder into helping him again and the abuse he takes eventually turns him into a full blown villain and he's turned a mutant fly. Later he tries to make himself human again and the turtles stop him for no good reason by kicking him into a dimensional portal where he's apparently eaten by a spider monster. He's one of the least evil villains on the show but the only one with a (heavily implied) canon death.death.
** Shredder is a {{Jerkass}} who wants to TakeOverTheWorld, but he's working with a partner who was absolutely no respect for him (even one the rare moments when his successful), is constantly humiliated by the turtles and has his plans thwarted by the sheer stupidity of his two minions.


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** Krang likely crossed it sooner in "Return of the Technodrome" when he tries to destroy New York with an earthquake after its populace refuses to vacate the city so he can use it as a base of operations.


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* RootingForTheEmpire: As Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady have what many fans agree as the funniest scenes in the show it can hard not to root for them. Shredder in particular since he ''never'' catches a break even when he wins.
16th Aug '16 11:03:42 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare and OffModel: The animation in some mid-series episodes looks downright ''HIDEOUS'' (especially almost half of season 4).
10th Aug '16 7:33:30 PM themisterfree
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* {{Narm}}: During the early seasons, they weren't in the territory of FamiylFriendlyFirearms yet (being in syndication), but it seems that somewhere along the line communications got muddled, and as a result, you'd hear a line like "the bullets aren't stopping them", while the guns being fired are shooting lasers!

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* {{Narm}}: During the early seasons, they weren't in the territory of FamiylFriendlyFirearms FamilyFriendlyFirearms yet (being in syndication), syndication instead of a network), but it seems that somewhere along the line communications got muddled, and as a result, you'd hear a line like "the bullets aren't stopping them", while the guns being fired are shooting lasers!
10th Aug '16 7:32:45 PM themisterfree
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* GrowingTheBeard: Season Three, arguably, when compared to the somewhat lackluster Season Two. It wasn't ''consistently'' good, but contains the most fan favourites.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Season Three, arguably, when compared to the somewhat lackluster Season Two. It wasn't ''consistently'' good, but contains the most fan favourites.favorites.


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* {{Narm}}: During the early seasons, they weren't in the territory of FamiylFriendlyFirearms yet (being in syndication), but it seems that somewhere along the line communications got muddled, and as a result, you'd hear a line like "the bullets aren't stopping them", while the guns being fired are shooting lasers!
7th Aug '16 8:15:39 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Bebop and Rocksteady are seen as either funny or annoying.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter:
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Bebop and Rocksteady are seen as either funny or annoying.
11th May '16 9:03:30 PM overman2099
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* OlderThanTheyThink: When most people think of a morally ambiguous ninja girl with a tempestuous and sometimes romantic relationship with Leonardo, Karai always comes to mind and not Lotus Blossom from this show. Lotus, in fact, predates Karai, having been introduced in 1989 whereas Karai only came about in 1992.
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