History YMMV / Tara

9th Feb '17 10:34:22 AM jewelia13
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--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Areum, you have to be thankful and thank people when they take care of you. If you donít want to get hit, then act properly because word spreads around fast. Donít gossip around and act cheap. Iím really angry right now, so letís not see each other, okay? [...] If I misunderstood anything, do you want to meet up and talk? Or do you want to apologize now?

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--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Areum, you have to be thankful and thank people when they take care of you. If you donít want to get hit, then act properly because word spreads around fast. Donít gossip around and act cheap. Iím really angry right now, so letís not see each other, okay? [...] If I misunderstood anything, do you want to meet up and talk? Or do you want to apologize now?now?[[note]]This is in reference to Ahreum not agreeing with Hwayoung's behaviour - going to a nail salon instead of practice, throwing her crutches in anger and playing up her ankle injury - and siding with the rest of T-ara.[[/note]]



--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Baby, you should just go away. Iím going to beat the dust off you at ĎMusic Bank,í so just wait. Iím going to scratch your face so you canít go on broadcast. Hehehe, just you wait. Iím not going to be a singer, so just wait. Dogs only learn when they get hit. Stupid bitch, just wait until I catch up with you. [...] Okay, youíre doing a grrrrreat job at snitching.

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--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Baby, you should just go away. Iím going to beat the dust off you at ĎMusic Bank,í so just wait. Iím going to scratch your face so you canít go on broadcast. Hehehe, just you wait. Iím not going to be a singer, so just wait. Dogs only learn when they get hit. Stupid bitch, just wait until I catch up with you. [...] Okay, youíre doing a grrrrreat job at snitching.[[note]]This is presumably after Ahreum informed her manager about the texts.[[/note]]


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** The revelation that Hyoyoung had threatened Ahreum with physical violence because Ahreum didn't agree with Hwayoung's behaviour during the scandal, and the fact that the Ryu twins had been manipulating and lying to the public for five years, when in fact ''they'' were the ones at fault.
9th Feb '17 10:29:06 AM jewelia13
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*** As of February 2017, Hwayoung (and her twin Hyoyoung) are finally getting a backdraft of their own. The twins had appeared on an interview wherein they talked about what happened and (arguably) milked the scandal again by trying to frame Hwayoung as being completely innocent and the group as horrible evil bullies (again, please note that this is a 180 from her original "there was no bullying, only normal conflict" story). Cue one of T-ara's ex-managers getting fed up and [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/08/ex-t-ara-staff-reveals-kkt-showing-hyoyoung-threats-to-ahreum-says-hwayoung-did-victim-cosplay/ releasing a series of texts]] in which Hyoyoung threatened Ahreum with physical violence:

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*** As of February 2017, Hwayoung (and her twin Hyoyoung) are finally getting a backdraft of their own. The twins had appeared on an interview wherein they talked about what happened and (arguably) milked the scandal again by trying to frame again, painting Hwayoung as being completely innocent and the group as horrible evil bullies (again, please note (note that this is a 180 from her original "there was no bullying, only normal conflict" story). Cue one of T-ara's ex-managers getting fed up and [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/08/ex-t-ara-staff-reveals-kkt-showing-hyoyoung-threats-to-ahreum-says-hwayoung-did-victim-cosplay/ releasing a series of texts]] in which Hyoyoung threatened Ahreum with physical violence:
9th Feb '17 10:09:17 AM jewelia13
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*** An ambiguous instagram update Ahreum made, which included "The people I hate the most right now are the CEO, unnisand the journalists! If only you gave me your pretty heart, but not even that... I don't care for things like that but don't regret it", was seen by netizens as another example of "bullying", even though it has questionable reliability since at the time Ahreum was acting very strange[[note]]there were odd pictures of herself on Instagram, incoherent ramblings that don't make any sense at best and could be interpreted as suicidal ideation at worst, and a messy, unkempt appearance[[/note]]. Five years later, the ex-manager of T-ara revealed Ahreum was threatened to be cut in the face by the Ryu twins and any attempt of the company and T-ara to defend her from the actual bullies was perceived as bullying by netizens. Ahreum supported T-ara over the years since she left the company though, showing she had no negative feelings towards the six girls, and was relived this tidbit was finally revealed to the public.

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*** An ambiguous instagram update Ahreum made, which included "The people I hate the most right now are the CEO, unnisand the journalists! If only you gave me your pretty heart, but not even that... I don't care for things like that but don't regret it", was seen by netizens as another example of "bullying", even though it has questionable reliability since at the time Ahreum was acting very strange[[note]]there were odd pictures of herself on Instagram, incoherent ramblings that don't make any sense at best and could be interpreted as suicidal ideation at worst, and a messy, unkempt appearance[[/note]]. Five years later, the ex-manager of T-ara revealed Ahreum was threatened to be cut in the face by the Ryu twins and any attempt of the company and T-ara to defend her from the actual bullies was perceived as bullying by netizens. Ahreum supported T-ara over the years since she left the company though, showing she had no negative feelings towards the six girls, and was relived this tidbit was finally revealed to the public.
9th Feb '17 9:43:00 AM jewelia13
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*** As of February 2017, Hwayoung (and her twin Hyoyoung) are finally getting a backdraft of their own. The twins had appeared on an interview wherein they talked about what happened and (arguably) milked the scandal again by trying to frame Hwayoung as being completely innocent and the group as horrible evil bullies (again, please note that this is a 180 from her original "there was no bullying, only normal conflict" story). Cue one of T-ara's ex-managers getting fed up and [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/08/ex-t-ara-staff-reveals-kkt-showing-hyoyoung-threats-to-ahreum-says-hwayoung-did-victim-cosplay/ releasing a series of texts]] in which Hyoyoung threatened Ahreum with physical violence:
--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Areum, itís Hyoyoung.
--> '''Areum:''' Yes hi!
--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Areum, you have to be thankful and thank people when they take care of you. If you donít want to get hit, then act properly because word spreads around fast. Donít gossip around and act cheap. Iím really angry right now, so letís not see each other, okay? [...] If I misunderstood anything, do you want to meet up and talk? Or do you want to apologize now?
--> '''Areum:''' I donít know what youíre talking about, but I want to meet and talk with you. Iíve never done anything bad enough to hear words like this.
--> '''Hyoyoung:''' Baby, you should just go away. Iím going to beat the dust off you at ĎMusic Bank,í so just wait. Iím going to scratch your face so you canít go on broadcast. Hehehe, just you wait. Iím not going to be a singer, so just wait. Dogs only learn when they get hit. Stupid bitch, just wait until I catch up with you. [...] Okay, youíre doing a grrrrreat job at snitching.
*** The fandom was thrown into a tizzy, which only got more intense after [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/08/hyoyoung-cops-to-kkt-being-legit-ahreum-confirms-reports-t-ara-vindicated/ first Ahreum]] and then [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/09/mbk-says-t-arahwayounghyoyoung-reports-are-the-truth-but-says-its-not-welcome/ the company themselves]] confirmed the texts were real, and ''then'' [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/09/ex-t-ara-staffmanager-tell-all-from-hwayoungs-fake-injuries-to-nail-salons-to-hyoyoungs-threats/ an ex-manager came out and basically confirmed what fans had been saying all along]] - that T-ara were innocent and the twins had been lying out of their asses.
9th Feb '17 7:58:07 AM everlasting
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*** An ambiguous instagram update Ahreum made, which included "The people I hate the most right now are the CEO, unnisand the journalists! If only you gave me your pretty heart, but not even that... I don't care for things like that but don't regret it", was seen by netizens as another example of "bullying", even though it has questionable reliability since at the time Ahreum was acting very strange[[note]]there were odd pictures of herself on Instagram, incoherent ramblings that don't make any sense at best and could be interpreted as suicidal ideation at worst, and a messy, unkempt appearance[[/note]].

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*** An ambiguous instagram update Ahreum made, which included "The people I hate the most right now are the CEO, unnisand the journalists! If only you gave me your pretty heart, but not even that... I don't care for things like that but don't regret it", was seen by netizens as another example of "bullying", even though it has questionable reliability since at the time Ahreum was acting very strange[[note]]there were odd pictures of herself on Instagram, incoherent ramblings that don't make any sense at best and could be interpreted as suicidal ideation at worst, and a messy, unkempt appearance[[/note]]. Five years later, the ex-manager of T-ara revealed Ahreum was threatened to be cut in the face by the Ryu twins and any attempt of the company and T-ara to defend her from the actual bullies was perceived as bullying by netizens. Ahreum supported T-ara over the years since she left the company though, showing she had no negative feelings towards the six girls, and was relived this tidbit was finally revealed to the public.


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* VindicatedByHistory: How T-ara fans feel when [[http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/02/09/ex-t-ara-staffmanager-tell-all-from-hwayoungs-fake-injuries-to-nail-salons-to-hyoyoungs-threats/ T-ara's ex-manager revealed]] the reason why Hwayoung was removed from the group was because she and her twin threatened to cut Ahreum's face. Ahreum went to the other T-ara members to complain about being bullied, but their attempt to defend Ahreum was seen as bullying towards Hwayoung, effectively destroying their career in Korea.
4th Feb '17 4:27:49 PM ZPM
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Since their scandal their popularity in Korea has waned, but international fans have been more forgiving. T-ara still holds concerts overseas, especially South East Asia, and is particularly popular in Vietnam. As of March 2015 they were the highest rising K-pop group in China, signing a $1 million contract with Chinese brand Celucasn, putting down rumors of their disbandment. As of July 2015, their fancafe surpassed [[Music/GirlsGeneration SNSD]] as the number one girl group in China. It also becamethe first girl group to have more than 1 million members.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Since their 2012 scandal their popularity in Korea has waned, but international fans have been more forgiving. T-ara still holds concerts overseas, especially South East Asia, and is particularly popular in Vietnam. As of March 2015 they were the highest rising K-pop group in China, signing a $1 million contract with Chinese brand Celucasn, putting down rumors of their disbandment. As of July 2015, their fancafe surpassed [[Music/GirlsGeneration SNSD]] as the number one girl group in China. It also becamethe first girl group to have more than 1 million members.
14th May '16 10:11:50 PM everlasting
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* MemeticMutation: Determination! [[note]]A word they used in their tweets a lot during Hwayoung's scandal, that Korean netizens mocked them with initially but the fandom adopted it to defend them in an affectionate way.[[/note]]
20th Apr '16 2:58:11 PM Berrenta
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** Their 2012 scandal pretty much drew a visible line in the sand. ''Most'' T-ara fans (especially the Korean ones) and a few sympathizers from other fandoms went to one side, arguing that while there was indeed discord within the group, the chances of there being bullying on the scale that the media and several naysayers perpetuated it to be was low. Everybody else - aka the majority - went to another side believing the bullying allegations, thus putting T-ara at odds with everybody at the time. [[ItGetsBetter Their situation seems to be improving though.]]

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** Their 2012 scandal pretty much drew a visible line in the sand. ''Most'' T-ara fans (especially the Korean ones) and a few sympathizers from other fandoms went to one side, arguing that while there was indeed discord within the group, the chances of there being bullying on the scale that the media and several naysayers perpetuated it to be was low. Everybody else - aka the majority - went to another side believing the bullying allegations, thus putting T-ara at odds with everybody at the time. [[ItGetsBetter Their situation seems to be improving though.]]



* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff International fans love T-ara]] Since their scandal their popularity in Korea has waned, but international fans have been more forgiving. T-ara still holds concerts overseas, especially South East Asia, and is particularly popular in Vietnam. As of March 2015 they were the highest rising K-pop group in China, signing a $1 million contract with Chinese brand Celucasn, putting down rumors of their disbandment. As of July 2015, their fancafe surpassed [[Music/GirlsGeneration SNSD]] as the number one girl group in China. It also becamethe first girl group to have more than 1 million members.

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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff International fans love T-ara]] GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Since their scandal their popularity in Korea has waned, but international fans have been more forgiving. T-ara still holds concerts overseas, especially South East Asia, and is particularly popular in Vietnam. As of March 2015 they were the highest rising K-pop group in China, signing a $1 million contract with Chinese brand Celucasn, putting down rumors of their disbandment. As of July 2015, their fancafe surpassed [[Music/GirlsGeneration SNSD]] as the number one girl group in China. It also becamethe first girl group to have more than 1 million members.
25th Sep '15 11:44:02 AM everlasting
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* NightmareFuel: ''Ahreum''. Since her departure, she's been displaying ''highly'' erratic behaviour on her Instagram account, uploading pictures and videos of herself saying that she was speaking to ghosts, that she was suicidal/depressed... She once uploaded a video saying she was having a birthday party with her friends, then turned the camera around to show... Nothing. To make matters worse, Ahreum's birthday was months away from what she was claiming. Her mother said she was fine, but ''still.'' Brr. Though her behavior can easily be interpreted as employee rebellion towards [=CCM], in an attempt to leave the group [[http://arcadey.net/2013/07/so-heres-my-thoughts-on-the-whole-areum-leaving-t-ara-situation/ (for a very logical and simple reason)]][note]She was dragged into the T-ARA bullying scandal by proxy and she wanted nothing to do with it. She singed with the company when T-ARA was at their peak and joined when the scandal happened thus having to carry the burden the rest of the girls are. She had every reason to not want to be part of it.[/note]

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* NightmareFuel: ''Ahreum''. Since her departure, she's been displaying ''highly'' erratic behaviour on her Instagram account, uploading pictures and videos of herself saying that she was speaking to ghosts, that she was suicidal/depressed... She once uploaded a video saying she was having a birthday party with her friends, then turned the camera around to show... Nothing. To make matters worse, Ahreum's birthday was months away from what she was claiming. Her mother said she was fine, but ''still.'' Brr. Though her behavior can easily be interpreted as employee rebellion towards [=CCM], [=CCM=], in an attempt to leave the group [[http://arcadey.net/2013/07/so-heres-my-thoughts-on-the-whole-areum-leaving-t-ara-situation/ (for a very logical and simple reason)]][note]She reason)]][[note]]She was dragged into the T-ARA bullying scandal by proxy and she wanted nothing to do with it. She singed with the company when T-ARA was at their peak and joined when the scandal happened thus having to carry the burden the rest of the girls are. She had every reason to not want to be part of it.[/note][[/note]]
25th Sep '15 11:43:06 AM everlasting
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* NightmareFuel: ''Ahreum''. Since her departure, she's been displaying ''highly'' erratic behaviour on her Instagram account, uploading pictures and videos of herself saying that she was speaking to ghosts, that she was suicidal/depressed... She once uploaded a video saying she was having a birthday party with her friends, then turned the camera around to show... Nothing. To make matters worse, Ahreum's birthday was months away from what she was claiming. Her mother said she was fine, but ''still.'' Brr.

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* NightmareFuel: ''Ahreum''. Since her departure, she's been displaying ''highly'' erratic behaviour on her Instagram account, uploading pictures and videos of herself saying that she was speaking to ghosts, that she was suicidal/depressed... She once uploaded a video saying she was having a birthday party with her friends, then turned the camera around to show... Nothing. To make matters worse, Ahreum's birthday was months away from what she was claiming. Her mother said she was fine, but ''still.'' Brr. Though her behavior can easily be interpreted as employee rebellion towards [=CCM], in an attempt to leave the group [[http://arcadey.net/2013/07/so-heres-my-thoughts-on-the-whole-areum-leaving-t-ara-situation/ (for a very logical and simple reason)]][note]She was dragged into the T-ARA bullying scandal by proxy and she wanted nothing to do with it. She singed with the company when T-ARA was at their peak and joined when the scandal happened thus having to carry the burden the rest of the girls are. She had every reason to not want to be part of it.[/note]
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