History YMMV / Tangled

25th Aug '16 11:28:18 AM JoieDeCombat
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* ValuesDissonance: In a way similar to the above entry, Flynn's cutting Rapunzel's hair ([[spoiler: even though the power turns out not to have been destroyed]]) can be seen as an extremely bad decision for someone who believes LivingForeverIsAwesome. Sure, right now Rapunzel is in for at least a few more months of slavery, but if there was even the tiniest chance Rapunzel could escape Gothel's clutches at some point (and there was: she has literally forever to build up a plan, and she has undergone a lot of character development), then Flynn had, [[spoiler: for all he knew]], doomed everyone on the planet's only chance at immortality.
25th Aug '16 11:17:13 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* ValuesDissonance: In a way similar to the above entry, Flynn's cutting Rapunzel's hair ([[spoiler: even though the power turns out not to have been destroyed]]) can be seen as an extremely bad decision for someone who believes LivingForeverIsAwesome. Sure, right now Rapunzel is in for at least a few more months of slavery, but if there was even the tiniest chance Rapunzel could escape Gothel's clutches at some point (and there was: she has literally forever to build up a plan, and she has undergone a lot of character development), then Flynn had, [[spoiler: for all he knew]], doomed everyone on the planet's only chance at immortality.
6th Jul '16 11:30:38 AM Pichu-kun
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** Some believe that Gothel's actions are motivated by her [[FearOfDeath fear of dying]] and not just vanity, even though she's never shown being afraid of ''dying'' per se, [[VainSorceress merely aging]]. She's shown to be obsessed with youth, constantly checking the mirror for any signs of age or imperfection, has Rapunzel sing for her even when she's the least bit "run-down," and even puts Rapunzel down to compliment her own looks. [[spoiler: Even when Eugene cuts Rapunzel's hair, Gothel seems most upset by the irreversible appearance of wrinkles. First thing she does after realizing the hair is gone is to check her reflection in the mirror, and then pull her hood over her face in shame and horror at her withered appearance]]. While fear of aging is also a very relatable motive, Gothel's complete obsession with it can come across as... a bit petty and shallow.

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** Some believe that Gothel's actions are motivated by her [[FearOfDeath [[MortalityPhobia fear of dying]] and not just vanity, even though she's never shown being afraid of ''dying'' per se, [[VainSorceress merely aging]]. She's shown to be obsessed with youth, constantly checking the mirror for any signs of age or imperfection, has Rapunzel sing for her even when she's the least bit "run-down," and even puts Rapunzel down to compliment her own looks. [[spoiler: Even when Eugene cuts Rapunzel's hair, Gothel seems most upset by the irreversible appearance of wrinkles. First thing she does after realizing the hair is gone is to check her reflection in the mirror, and then pull her hood over her face in shame and horror at her withered appearance]]. While fear of aging is also a very relatable motive, Gothel's complete obsession with it can come across as... a bit petty and shallow.
6th Jul '16 11:19:49 AM Pichu-kun
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** No Disney villain evokes this more than Mother Gothel. Did she only care about Rapunzel's hair and just pretended to be a doting mother, or did she come to genuinely love her in the 18 years she raised her? [[spoiler: Rapunzel's hair is more important in the end]], but Gothel does small things that make one think twice like her "I love you" "I love you more" "I love you most" game and her surprising Rapunzel by cooking her favorite food. Fans are still debating.
** However if you pay attention, when she says "I love you most" she kisses her forehead. This could be taken that she loves her hair most.
** Or she's just ''that'' good of an actress to fool the audience with a rather convincing performance. It helps that she happens to have a lot of ''very'' subtle hints.

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** No Disney villain evokes this more than Mother Gothel. Did she only care about Rapunzel's hair and just pretended to be a doting mother, or did she come to genuinely love her in the 18 years she raised her? [[spoiler: Rapunzel's hair is more important in the end]], but Gothel does small things that make one think twice like her "I love you" "I love you more" "I love you most" game and her surprising Rapunzel by cooking her favorite food. Fans are still debating.
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debating. However if you pay attention, when she says "I love you most" she kisses her forehead. This could be taken that she loves her hair most.
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most. Or she's just ''that'' good of an actress to fool the audience with a rather convincing performance. It helps that she happens to have a lot of ''very'' subtle hints.



** Some believe that Gothel's actions are motivated by her fear of dying and not just vanity, even though she's never shown being afraid of ''dying'' per se, [[VainSorceress merely aging]]. She's shown to be obsessed with youth, constantly checking the mirror for any signs of age or imperfection, has Rapunzel sing for her even when she's the least bit "run-down," and even puts Rapunzel down to compliment her own looks. [[spoiler: Even when Eugene cuts Rapunzel's hair, Gothel seems most upset by the irreversible appearance of wrinkles. First thing she does after realizing the hair is gone is to check her reflection in the mirror, and then pull her hood over her face in shame and horror at her withered appearance]]. While fear of aging is also a very relatable motive, Gothel's complete obsession with it can come across as... a bit petty and shallow.

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** Some believe that Gothel's actions are motivated by her [[FearOfDeath fear of dying dying]] and not just vanity, even though she's never shown being afraid of ''dying'' per se, [[VainSorceress merely aging]]. She's shown to be obsessed with youth, constantly checking the mirror for any signs of age or imperfection, has Rapunzel sing for her even when she's the least bit "run-down," and even puts Rapunzel down to compliment her own looks. [[spoiler: Even when Eugene cuts Rapunzel's hair, Gothel seems most upset by the irreversible appearance of wrinkles. First thing she does after realizing the hair is gone is to check her reflection in the mirror, and then pull her hood over her face in shame and horror at her withered appearance]]. While fear of aging is also a very relatable motive, Gothel's complete obsession with it can come across as... a bit petty and shallow.



* AngstWhatAngst: Rapunzel is emotionally abused for 18 years, and the consequences seem to be over in a few days. At the end of the film, she has [[spoiler: realized that her life is a lie, found out that her maternal figure was exploiting her and possibly never loved her at all, and witnessed the {{Family Unfriendly Death}}s of two people close to her (though one of them at least got better). None of this trauma is even mentioned in the epilogue.]]

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* AngstWhatAngst: Rapunzel is emotionally abused for 18 years, and the consequences seem to be over in a few days. At the end of the film, she has [[spoiler: realized that her life is a lie, found out that her maternal figure was exploiting her and possibly never loved her at all, and witnessed the {{Family Unfriendly Death}}s of two people close to her (though one of them at least got better). ]] None of this trauma is even mentioned in the epilogue.]]epilogue. In an [[WhatCouldHaveBeen earlier version of the script]] this was more averted as Rapunzel clearly had fears about the outside world however eventually she was reworked into a PluckyGirl.
20th May '16 6:21:46 PM Sammettik
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* CrossOver: There's been a bit of a sensation (on {{Tumblr}} at least) where the ''Tangled'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'', ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' and ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' fandoms united to create what they call ''SugarWiki/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'', which involves Rapunzel, Merida, Hiccup and Jack Frost interacting with each other as friends. Frequently, they are also depicted as [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts students]]. As of the release of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' implying that Tangled takes place in the same universe, it's quickly joined the crossover lineup.



** When she catches up with Rapunzel outside the tower, her words probably sound familiar to anyone who's been worried that their child was getting mixed up in the wrong croud.

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** When she catches up with Rapunzel outside the tower, her words probably sound familiar to anyone who's been worried that their child was getting mixed up in the wrong croud.crowd.
11th May '16 7:34:23 AM YasminPerry
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** More cynical viewers can interpret Rider's interest in Rapunzel as purely sexual. Just look at the lyrics to the "Mother Knows Best" reprise above.
19th Apr '16 12:03:56 PM Scabbard
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** Whether the film is good as a musical or not is a base breaker. Some thing it's a good movie but falls short as a ''musical'' while others think its songs are few and far between however the movie wouldn't be the same without it.

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** Whether the film is good as a musical or not is a base breaker. Some thing think it's a good movie but falls short as a ''musical'' while others think its songs are few and far between however the movie wouldn't be the same without it.
10th Apr '16 6:17:04 PM BURGINABC
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** This is the overall aesthetic of the hand-drawn visuals in the credits sequence. Most of the characters are much less attractive than they are in the actual movie -- Flynn is downgraded from roguishly handsome to just plain roguish, Rapunzel becomes freckle-faced and homely, the Snuggly Duckling thugs look ''even uglier'' than they did originally, Max is oddly hairy, and the Guards are just plain hideous -- but somehow most of them still look quite endearing just the same.

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** This is the overall aesthetic of the hand-drawn visuals in the credits sequence. Most of the characters are much less attractive than they are in the actual movie -- Flynn is downgraded from roguishly handsome to just plain roguish, Rapunzel becomes freckle-faced and homely, the Snuggly Duckling thugs look ''even uglier'' than they did originally, Max is oddly hairy, and the Guards are just plain hideous -- but somehow most of them they still look quite endearing just the same.
10th Apr '16 6:04:43 PM BURGINABC
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* UglyCute: The Big Nose Thug. His part in "I've Got A Dream" when he describes all his less than flattering physical attributes is a LampshadeHanging of this trope -- especially the part where he sings about a girl loving him.

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The Big Nose Thug. His part in "I've Got A Dream" when he describes all his less than flattering physical attributes is a LampshadeHanging of this trope -- especially the part where he sings about a girl loving him.him.
** This is the overall aesthetic of the hand-drawn visuals in the credits sequence. Most of the characters are much less attractive than they are in the actual movie -- Flynn is downgraded from roguishly handsome to just plain roguish, Rapunzel becomes freckle-faced and homely, the Snuggly Duckling thugs look ''even uglier'' than they did originally, Max is oddly hairy, and the Guards are just plain hideous -- but somehow most of them still look quite endearing just the same.
10th Apr '16 4:17:21 PM klhess07
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* PragmaticVillainy: Gothel's not-entirely-negative treatment of Rapunzel could be interpreted this way. In order for their arrangement to work, Gothel needed Rapunzel's at least somewhat willing cooperation. The guilt she induced saved her from having to guard Rapunzel every second to prevent her from either escaping or hacking off her hair.
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