History YMMV / Tangled

17th Mar '17 1:54:10 AM NWolfman
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Mother Gothel has quite a committed fanbase, which can get rather over-enthusiastic in either downplaying or defending her actions throughout the movie. While she [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation may have sympathetic motives and/or backstory]] (and that tends to depend more on [[WildMassGuessing fan theorising]] or [[EpilepticTrees guesswork]] rather than what's presented in the movie proper), she's nevertheless consistently portrayed throughout the movie as vain and selfish, a child abductor, an emotional abuser towards that child, at one point ''chaining her up'', as well as clearly willing to commit murder in her desire to keep that child all to herself.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Mother Gothel has quite a committed fanbase, which can get rather over-enthusiastic in either downplaying or defending her actions throughout the movie. While she [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation may have sympathetic motives and/or backstory]] (and that tends to depend more on [[WildMassGuessing fan theorising]] or [[EpilepticTrees guesswork]] rather than what's presented in the movie proper), she's nevertheless consistently portrayed throughout the movie as this is still a character who kidnaps a child, spends 18 years {{gaslighting}} and emotionally crippling her and later ''chains her up'' and tries to kill her boyfriend, all in a vain and selfish, a child abductor, an emotional abuser towards that child, at one point ''chaining her up'', as well as clearly willing to commit murder in her desire selfish effort to keep that the child all and her healing powers to herself.



** Mother Gothel to an extent [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation if you believe that]] she only does the things she does in the movie because she is ''terrified of dying'', it makes her actions seem understandable. Not ''justified'', mind you (controlling and destroying others' lives just to preserve your own is horrible), but nevertheless worthy of some pity. As noted above, this is a matter of ''intense'' debate in the fandom, which many raising the question of whether it is so much fear of ''dying'' that Gothel suffers from, or the rather-less-sympathetic fear of simply growing old and losing her looks.

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** Mother Gothel to an extent [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation if you believe that]] she only does the things she does in the movie because she is ''terrified of dying'', it makes her actions seem understandable. Not ''justified'', mind you (controlling It obviously doesn't justify kidnapping, child abuse and destroying others' lives just to preserve your own is horrible), [[spoiler:attempted murder]], but nevertheless worthy of some pity. it's a reason. As noted above, this is a matter of ''intense'' debate in the fandom, which many raising the question of whether it is so much fear of ''dying'' that Gothel suffers from, or the rather-less-sympathetic fear of simply fears dying or, more superficially, growing old and losing her looks.
17th Mar '17 1:45:18 AM NWolfman
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mother Gothel. With the exception of [[DracoInLeatherPants apologist]] fans, few will deny that she is a great villain and an uncomfortably accurate depiction of an emotional abuser, but it's that accuracy that turns off some fans who prefer Disney's AffablyEvil villains over one who's more realistically (and therefore [[LoveToHate less entertainingly]]) evil.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mother Gothel. With the exception of [[DracoInLeatherPants apologist]] fans, few will deny that she is a great villain and an uncomfortably accurate depiction of an emotional abuser, but it's that accuracy that turns off some fans who prefer Disney's AffablyEvil villains over one who's who're more realistically (and therefore [[LoveToHate less entertainingly]]) evil.
17th Mar '17 1:44:35 AM NWolfman
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mother Gothel. With the exception of [[DracoInLeatherPants apologist]] fans, few will deny that she is a great villain and an uncomfortably accurate depiction of an emotional abuser, but it's that accuracy that turns off some fans who prefer Disney's AffablyEvil villains over one who's more realistically (and therefore [[LoveToHate less entertainingly]]) evil.
15th Mar '17 7:14:00 PM LegitimateIdiot
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** Fanfic writers almost always refer to Rapunzel's father as "Thomas" while her mother is "Primrose", though this has now been {{Jossed}} by ''WesternAnimation/TangledBeforeEverAfter'', revealing them to be Frederic and Arianna.

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** Fanfic writers almost always refer to Rapunzel's father as "Thomas" while her mother is "Primrose", though this has now been {{Jossed}} by ''WesternAnimation/TangledBeforeEverAfter'', ''WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries'', revealing them to be Frederic and Arianna.
4th Mar '17 1:48:54 PM mlsmithca
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* SoCoolItsAwesome: Largely considered one of Disney's best films of all time. Arguably the best since ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''. It was both a critical and a box office success and managed to WinBackTheCrowd after the "almost-but-not-quite-there-yet" attempt with ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog''.
30th Jan '17 12:29:08 PM creader
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* MilestoneCelebration: The Walt Disney Animation Studios VanityPlate has a LogoJoke proclamation that ''Tangled'' is the 50th movie in the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon.
30th Jan '17 1:42:00 AM creader
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* TheWoobie: Rapunzel. By the end she's an IronWoobie.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Rapunzel. Kidnapped from her birth parents as an infant by a woman who only cared about her because her magic hair kept her young. And during those eighteen years, Gothel emotionally and psychologically abused Rapunzel into fearing the outside world. By the end she's an IronWoobie.IronWoobie.
** Queen Arianne and King Frederic. After the Queen and Rapunzel survived a dangerous childbirth, their infant daughter kidnapped right before their eyes. They spent the next eighteen years in emotional turmoil if their only child was alive or dead.
3rd Jan '17 1:56:08 AM Shadeblade11
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-->'''Rapunzel:''' I've got a ''person'' in my ''closet''!\\

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-->'''Rapunzel:''' I've got a ''person'' in my ''closet''!\\''closet''!



-->'''Flynn:''' This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\

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-->'''Flynn:''' This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\happen..



-->'''Flynn:''' You broke my smoulder...\\

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-->'''Flynn:''' You broke my smoulder...\\
3rd Jan '17 1:55:28 AM Shadeblade11
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'''Flynn:''' This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\

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'''Flynn:''' -->'''Flynn:''' This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\



'''Flynn:''' You broke my smoulder...

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'''Flynn:''' -->'''Flynn:''' You broke my smoulder...\\
3rd Jan '17 1:54:59 AM Shadeblade11
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**
--->'''Rapunzel:''' I've got a ''person'' in my ''closet''!
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--->'''Flynn:''' This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\
...\\

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--->'''Rapunzel:'''
** There's this.
-->'''Rapunzel:'''
I've got a ''person'' in my ''closet''!
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--->'''Flynn:'''
''closet''!\\
** This.
'''Flynn:'''
This is kind of an off day, this doesn't usually happen...\\
...\\
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** And this.
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