History YMMV / Tangled

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* MagnificentBitch: Mother Gothel upgrades from standard [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulate Bitch]] to this in her dealings with the Stabbington Brothers. They're murderous brutes and this woman with no magical powers whatsoever doesn't flinch when they pull their swords out, calls them out for squabbling over a tiara and uses the right means of motivation to get them to help her.

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* MagnificentBitch: MagnificentBastard: Mother Gothel upgrades from standard [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulate Manipulative Bitch]] to this in her dealings with the Stabbington Brothers. They're murderous brutes and this woman with no magical powers whatsoever doesn't flinch when they pull their swords out, calls them out for squabbling over a tiara and uses the right means of motivation to get them to help her.
4th Dec '16 1:05:35 AM LB7979
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** He can achieve a lot by using his handsome looks, and he sure knows it - ([[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] when he mentions how his smoulder always works).
** He uses ReversePsychology on Rapunzel, when he guilt-trips her about her adventure, disguised as encouragement for it.
** When this doesn't work, he uses the knowledge he just got that she's afraid of thugs, to lead her to a place full of thugs.
4th Dec '16 1:02:47 AM LB7979
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* AwardSnub: It lost a Golden Globe to ''[[Film/{{Burlesque}} Cher!]]''. And why did this film have to come out in the same year as ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''? It wasn't even nominated for the Best Animated Feature Oscar.



* BreakingTheFourthWall: Shorty (the oldest thug) is the only one who does this - by blowing kisses directly to the viewer. Most notably during the "I've Got a Dream" song when he hangs from the ceiling on a rope, and at the very last shot of the movie when he's floating up the sky on balloons.
* BrokenBase:
** The prerelease to this movie was notoriously full of Disney fans arguing due to [[ItChangedNowItSucks developmental changes]]. Bastion being replaced with Flynn to this day is controversial, as Bastion is often seen being more Disney-esque while Flynn is more Dreamworks-esque as well as many people just thinking Bastion was more attractive. Changing the name from "Rapunzel" to "Tangled" is still a huge FandomBerserkButton for people, especially those who don't approve of Disney's post-90s material, and is seen as a FranchiseOriginalSin to many while others prefer the finalized name.
** The topic of whether Gothel loved Rapunzel pops up constantly and is met by debating on both sides, though most fans think she only loved her hair.
** It's not uncommon to see fans argue whether they like Rapunzel [[spoiler:better as a blonde or her natural brunette]].
** Whether the film is good as a musical or not is a base breaker. Some think it's a good movie but falls short as a ''musical'' while others think its songs are few and far between however the movie wouldn't be the same without it.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Mother Gothel has quite a committed fanbase, which can get rather over-enthusiastic in either downplaying or defending her actions throughout the movie. While she [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation may have sympathetic motives and/or backstory]] (and that tends to depend more on [[WildMassGuessing fan theorising]] [[EpilepticTrees or guesswork]] rather than what's presented in the movie proper), she's nevertheless consistently portrayed throughout the movie as vain and selfish, a child abductor, an emotional abuser towards that child, at one point ''chaining her up'', as well as clearly willing to commit murder in her desire to keep that child all to herself.



* EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: The movie's story has many aspects of a solar myth.



* {{Fanon}}:
** Fanfic writers have started a trend where Rapunzel calls [[spoiler:Eugene]] by his former assumed name of Flynn Rider affectionately, instead of using his real name, in fics.
** Fanfic writers almost always refer to Rapunzel's father as "Thomas" while her mother is "Primrose", though this has now been {{Jossed}} by ''WesternAnimation/TangledBeforeEverAfter'', revealing them to be Frederic and Arianna.
** Elsa and Anna from ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' being Rapunzel's younger cousins is popular with both fandoms. Fans differ on whether Anna's and Elsa's father or their mother is related to Rapunzel's mother, though most lean on their mother. There's further support for this in the fact that as revealed in the Tangled series, Rapunzel's mother's name is Ari''anna''.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** See 'Award Snub' above, then think a bit about who Mother Gothel looks like.
** There was a RunningGag in the fandom that Flynn looked like [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed Ezio Auditore]] (not to mention he also likes running on rooftops and trying to seduce women). Flynn's voice actor, Zachary Levi, dressed as Ezio during the intro to the 2011 VGA's.
** Another is that Rapunzel is essentially [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Hungary]] with a wig. Must be her FryingPanOfDoom.
** Zachary Levi is [[TheOtherDarrin Darrining]] the role of another Creator/ErrolFlynn {{Expy}}... [[Film/{{Thor}} Fandral]].
** Vladimir, a big buff man, having a collection of ceramic unicorns will likely make people think of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Bronies]]. [[note]]It should be noted that ''My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic'' came out just over a month before ''Tangled'' did, however, the Brony fandom was still in its beginning stages of development and was relatively under-known when the movie was released, making this scene even more Hilarious In Hindsight especially given the AnimationLeadTime.[[/note]]
** The [[http://www.energyenhancement.org/tangled_full.jpg symbol]] of the kingdom Corona also looks quite a bit like [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Princess Celestia's]] [[http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/137/5/e/princess_celestia_cutie_mark_by_blackgryph0n-d3gjklv.png cutie mark]].
** Creator/AmandaSeyfried is commonly cited as the actress who most matches Rapunzel in real life. Later, when ''Film/LesMiserables2012'' came out, Seyfried's first song has her with her hair in a plait, singing about how her life's begun and how she's been kept away from the outside world by her single parent.
** A girl with magical blonde hair and a dark-haired villainess wanting to keep that power all to herself. Are we talking about ''Tangled'' or ''WesternAnimation/LadyLovelyLocks''?
** Mother Gothel is said to be an {{Expy}} of the Witch of ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods''. Now that her voice actor, Donna Murphy, has starred as the Witch in a 2012 production of the musical, it appears that it's come full circle!
** Zachary Levi said part of the reason why he voiced Flynn/[[spoiler:Eugene]] is so that he could appear in a ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game. A world based on Tangled has been confirmed for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''.



* ManipulativeBastard: Flynn at the beginning of the movie. Easy to overlook because of his charm and handsome looks, and in the end he turns out to have a HiddenHeartOfGold, but
** Him backstabbing the Stabbington brothers (no pun intended), his partners at that point, by running away with the crown leaving them at a cliff they can't climb while they're being pursued by the guards.



* MemeticMutation:
** This piece of dialogue and the facial expressions Gothel makes during "Mother Knows Best" seem to be [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTJvlsHlSpo& turning into one]]:
--->'''Gothel:''' The plague!\\
'''Rapunzel:''' No!\\
'''Gothel:''' ''[[BigYes YES!]]''
** "Surrounded by enormous piles of moneeeeeyyyy!"
** ''The Smoulder''.



* MoodWhiplash: Several in succession around the "I've Got a Dream" song.
** It starts with peaceful quietness when Flynn and Rapunzel approach the Snuggly Duckling. They're in lovely nature at this moment, and the Snuggly Duckling looks charming from the outside...
** ... But as soon as they enter it, the mood turns into sheer terror as Rapunzel sees she's walked into one of her biggest fears, a bunch of thugs.
** Then violence and chaos ensue as the thugs fight over who can turn in Flynn to cash the "Wanted" money.
** Then a shift into adorableness / funniness (very abruptly when Hook Hand emotionally exclaims "''I'' had a dream once..." when first seeming to be going to hurt Rapunzel) during the first four verses of "I've Got a Dream".
** "I've Got a Dream" then turns from adorable and funny at the first four verses (HookHand, Big Nose, Flynn, and Rapunzel's lines), into a wacky pandemonium where ''everybody'' (except Flynn) in the pub [[https://youtu.be/mJICrhJD4-M?t=187 lets themselves completely go and bursts into crazy antics]], (this is a DenserAndWackier part compared to the rest of the song).
** The ecstasy the song finished in, abruptly turns to angst and seriousness because royal guards burst in.
** Cuteness again when first Hook Hand heartwarmingly helps Rapunzel and Flynn escape, followed by Rapunzel and Flynn first starting to bond and showing signs of interest in each other.
** Until they realize the royal guards + Maximus + the Stabbington brothers are on to them, and it turns into fear and action.



* RonTheDeathEater:
** Gothel apologists are claiming all the problems in the movie were the fault of the king and queen for destroying the flower in the first place, even though they didn't know that it could be used without consuming it, and Gothel, who they didn't know existed because she herself never came forward, was the only one who could have told them how.
** There are those who decry the king's 'selfishness' in taking and destroying the flower by having it made into a tea, thus destroying its ability to heal. Said 'selfishness', it should be remembered (since these people don't seem to), is prompted by nothing less than ''trying to prevent his wife and unborn daughter from dying''.
** The Captain of the Guard often falls victim to this trope. In various fanfics, he turns from a relatively well-meaning (if not very competent) soldier to a sadistic asshole who kidnaps Rapunzel solely to spite Flynn.



* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Mother Gothel's condemnation of the world, for some, doesn't stray ''too'' far from truth. As with Frollo, though, it's hypocrisy since she may well be describing herself here.
-->'''Mother Gothel:''' The world is dark, and selfish, and cruel. If it finds even the slightest ray of sunshine, it destroys it.
** When she catches up with Rapunzel outside the tower, her words probably sound familiar to anyone who's been worried that their child was getting mixed up in the wrong crowd.
--->'''Rapunzel:'''...I even met someone!
--->'''Mother Gothel:''' Yes, the wanted thief, [[SarcasmMode I'm so proud.]]
* TaintedByThePreview: When the first trailer hit theaters, many people were put off since there was so much focus on Flynn and so little on Rapunzel when the movie was clearly about her. There was also how slapstick and ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''-like it seemed (not to mention the movie title being ''Tangled''). The strong week-to-week holds of the film spoke volumes about the terrific word-of-mouth from those who did see it. Not to mention them continuously playing P!nk's "Trouble" through promotion, when it wasn't part of the original soundtrack to begin with.
* UglyCute:

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* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Mother Gothel's condemnation of the world, for some, doesn't stray ''too'' far from truth. As with Frollo, though, it's hypocrisy since she may well be describing herself here.
-->'''Mother Gothel:''' The world is dark, and selfish, and cruel. If it finds even the slightest ray of sunshine, it destroys it.
** When she catches up with Rapunzel outside the tower, her words probably sound familiar to anyone who's been worried that their child was getting mixed up in the wrong crowd.
--->'''Rapunzel:'''...I even met someone!
--->'''Mother Gothel:''' Yes, the wanted thief, [[SarcasmMode I'm so proud.]]
* TaintedByThePreview: When the first trailer hit theaters, many people were put off since there was so much focus on Flynn and so little on Rapunzel when the movie was clearly about her. There was also how slapstick and ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''-like it seemed (not to mention the movie title being ''Tangled''). The strong week-to-week holds of the film spoke volumes about the terrific word-of-mouth from those who did see it. Not to mention them continuously playing P!nk's "Trouble" through promotion, when it wasn't part of the original soundtrack to begin with.
* UglyCute:
UglyCute:



* UnintentionallySympathetic:
** Mother Gothel to an extent [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation if you believe that]] she only does the things she does in the movie because she is ''terrified of dying'', it makes her actions seem understandable. Not ''justified'', mind you (controlling and destroying others' lives just to preserve your own is horrible), but nevertheless worthy of some pity. As noted above, this is a matter of ''intense'' debate in the fandom, which many raising the question of whether it is so much fear of ''dying'' that Gothel suffers from, or the rather-less-sympathetic fear of simply growing old and losing her looks.
** The Stabbington Brothers are crooks through and through, and just meant to be brutes, but they're obviously a team and loyal to one another.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Flynn Rider has a big does of ProtagonistCentredMorality - early on in the film he betrays his two partners, leaving them to get captured by the authorities. While they do get out, it's a pretty bad move on Flynn's part, as we see that the death penalty does exist in this world, so he could well have been leaving them for dead. The Stabbington Brothers [[spoiler: later turn him over to the authorities for capture, but you could easily see this as them getting revenge on him, rather than them just trying to get him killed for a big score]]. The movie never really calls him out for this, and we're supposed to like Flynn (in the early scenes at least) just because he's funny and charming.
* WhatAnIdiot: Flynn [[spoiler:cutting off Rapunzel's hair before she can save him near the climax. To be fair, he ''was'' sacrificing himself to save Rapunzel and defeat Gothel, but it's still kind of stupid of him to do so before she could quickly sing the song to revive him.]]
30th Nov '16 11:08:58 AM MrMediaGuy2
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* NoodleIncident: How did Rapunzel get Pascal? Lampshaded by:
-->'''Flynn:''' Frankly I'm too scared to ask about the ''[[IAmNotWeasel frog]]''...
30th Nov '16 7:49:04 AM LB7979
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* NoodleIncident: How did Rapunzel get Pascal? Lampshaded by:
-->'''Flynn:''' Frankly I'm too scared to ask about the ''[[IAmNotWeasel frog]]''...
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* WhatAnIdiot: Flynn [[spoiler:cutting off Rapunzel's hair before she can save him near the climax. To be fair, he ''was'' sacrifcing himself to save Rapunzel and defeat Gothel, but it's still kind of stupid of him to do so before she could quickly sing the song to revive him.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Flynn [[spoiler:cutting off Rapunzel's hair before she can save him near the climax. To be fair, he ''was'' sacrifcing sacrificing himself to save Rapunzel and defeat Gothel, but it's still kind of stupid of him to do so before she could quickly sing the song to revive him.]]
27th Nov '16 3:47:08 PM Segal991
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* WhatAnIdiot: Flynn [[spoiler:cutting off Rapunzel's hair before she can save him near the climax. To be fair, he ''was'' sacrifcing himself to save Rapunzel and defeat Gothel, but it's still kind of stupid of him to do so before she could quickly sing the song to revive him.]]
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** ... But as soon as they enter it, the mood turns into sheer terror as Rapunzel sees she's walked into one of her biggest fears, a bunch of thugs...

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** ... But as soon as they enter it, the mood turns into sheer terror as Rapunzel sees she's walked into one of her biggest fears, a bunch of thugs...thugs.



** Then a shift into adorableness / funniness with the first four verses of "I've Got a Dream".
** "I've Got a Dream" then turns from adorable and funny at the first four verses (HookHand, Big Nose, Flynn, and Rapunzel's lines), into a wacky pandemonium where ''everybody'' (except Flynn) in the pub lets themselves completely go and bursts into crazy antics, (this last verse of the song seems actually to be a DenserAndWackier rehash of the first four...), even seeming to break the place down...
** Finished by the royal guards showing up which panics Rapunzel and Flynn so they need to escape - and HookHand thug happily helps them do so at this point.
** This escape itself initially is Rapunzel & Flynn's first moment to bond (they start asking each other personal questions)... until they realize the royal guards + Maximus + the Stabbington brothers are on to them, and they are in major trouble...

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** Then a shift into adorableness / funniness with (very abruptly when Hook Hand emotionally exclaims "''I'' had a dream once..." when first seeming to be going to hurt Rapunzel) during the first four verses of "I've Got a Dream".
** "I've Got a Dream" then turns from adorable and funny at the first four verses (HookHand, Big Nose, Flynn, and Rapunzel's lines), into a wacky pandemonium where ''everybody'' (except Flynn) in the pub [[https://youtu.be/mJICrhJD4-M?t=187 lets themselves completely go and bursts into crazy antics, antics]], (this last verse of the song seems actually to be is a DenserAndWackier rehash part compared to the rest of the first four...), even seeming to break song).
** The ecstasy
the place down...
** Finished by the
song finished in, abruptly turns to angst and seriousness because royal guards showing up which panics burst in.
** Cuteness again when first Hook Hand heartwarmingly helps
Rapunzel and Flynn so they need to escape - and HookHand thug happily helps them do so at this point.
** This escape itself initially is
escape, followed by Rapunzel & Flynn's and Flynn first moment starting to bond (they start asking and showing signs of interest in each other personal questions)... until other.
** Until
they realize the royal guards + Maximus + the Stabbington brothers are on to them, and they are in major trouble...it turns into fear and action.
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* MoodWhiplash: Several in succession around the "I've Got a Dream" song.
** It starts with peaceful quietness when Flynn and Rapunzel approach the Snuggly Duckling. They're in lovely nature at this moment, and the Snuggly Duckling looks charming from the outside...
** ... But as soon as they enter it, the mood turns into sheer terror as Rapunzel sees she's walked into one of her biggest fears, a bunch of thugs...
** Then violence and chaos ensue as the thugs fight over who can turn in Flynn to cash the "Wanted" money.
** Then a shift into adorableness / funniness with the first four verses of "I've Got a Dream".
** "I've Got a Dream" then turns from adorable and funny at the first four verses (HookHand, Big Nose, Flynn, and Rapunzel's lines), into a wacky pandemonium where ''everybody'' (except Flynn) in the pub lets themselves completely go and bursts into crazy antics, (this last verse of the song seems actually to be a DenserAndWackier rehash of the first four...), even seeming to break the place down...
** Finished by the royal guards showing up which panics Rapunzel and Flynn so they need to escape - and HookHand thug happily helps them do so at this point.
** This escape itself initially is Rapunzel & Flynn's first moment to bond (they start asking each other personal questions)... until they realize the royal guards + Maximus + the Stabbington brothers are on to them, and they are in major trouble...
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* ManipulativeBastard: Flynn at the beginning of the movie. Easy to overlook because of his charm and handsome looks, and in the end he turns out to have a HiddenHeartOfGold, but
** Him backstabbing the Stabbington brothers (no pun intended), his partners at that point, by running away with the crown leaving them at a cliff they can't climb while they're being pursued by the guards.
** He can achieve a lot by using his handsome looks, and he sure knows it - ([[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] when he mentions how his smoulder always works).
** He uses ReversePsychology on Rapunzel, when he guilt-trips her about her adventure, disguised as encouragement for it.
** When this doesn't work, he uses the knowledge he just got that she's afraid of thugs, to lead her to a place full of thugs.



* {{Moe}}: Rapunzel. Just look at her! Especially when she laughs. She's more cute than beautiful, and even has a little overbite and a lisp that adds to her cuteness rather than subtracts. Additionally, part of the way through Gothel's VillainSong, "Mother Knows Best" features Rapunzel huddled up in a small fort made of her own hair. It is quite possibly one of the most adorable things in the entire movie.

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* {{Moe}}: Rapunzel. Just look at her! Especially when she laughs. She's more cute than beautiful, and even has a little overbite and a lisp that adds to her cuteness rather than subtracts. Additionally, part of the way through Gothel's VillainSong, "Mother Knows Best" features Rapunzel [[http://imgur.com/NrpxxNx huddled up in a small fort made of her own hair.hair]]. It is quite possibly one of the most adorable things in the entire movie.
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