History YMMV / TalesoftheAbyss

19th May '17 9:59:30 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Though Luke is an incredible ass about it, he's not exactly wrong when he says "[[NeverMyFault It's not my fault!]]" in regards to [[spoiler: Akzeriuth.]] One can blame him for is being an arrogant ass about things [[spoiler: but as Van tricked him and then forced him into destroying Akzeriuth, while plenty of the rest of the party (Tear, Guy, and Jade in particular) possessed information that would have had a good chance of adverting events if they had brought it up, Luke was handicapped from the start (that's without bringing in the fact he was sent ''knowing'' he would, according to the Score, destroy Akzeriuth and himself so they could kick off a war). And the BrokenAesop on the main page also points out no one gave Luke a ''good'' reason to distrust Van aside from saying he should think more critically.]]

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Though Luke is an incredible ass about it, he's not exactly wrong when he says "[[NeverMyFault It's not my fault!]]" in regards to [[spoiler: Akzeriuth.]] One can blame him for is being an arrogant ass about things [[spoiler: but as Van tricked him and then forced him into destroying Akzeriuth, while plenty of the rest of the party (Tear, Guy, and Jade in particular) possessed information that would have had a good chance of adverting events if they had brought it up, Luke was handicapped from the start (that's without bringing in the fact he was sent ''knowing'' he would, according to the Score, destroy Akzeriuth and himself so they could kick off a war). And the BrokenAesop on the main page also points out no one gave Luke a ''good'' reason to distrust Van aside from saying he should think more critically.]]
19th May '17 9:58:21 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Though Luke is an incredible ass about it, he's not exactly wrong when he says "[[NeverMyFault It's not my fault!]]" in regards to [[spoiler: Akzeriuth.]] One can blame him for is being an arrogant ass about things [[spoiler: but as Van tricked him and then forced him into destroying Akzeriuth, while plenty of the rest of the party (Tear, Guy, and Jade in particular) possessed information that would have had a good chance of adverting events if they had brought it up, Luke was handicapped from the start (that's without bringing in the fact he was sent ''knowing'' he would, according to the Score, destroy Akzeriuth and himself so they could kick off a war). And the BrokenAesop on the main page also points out no one gave Luke a ''good'' reason to distrust Van aside from saying he should think more critically.]]
14th May '17 9:09:44 AM LovePsychothefirst
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** Luke pre ImportantHaircut. He's a spoiled ShelteredAristocrat who can be a massive Jerkass. At the same time, he's woefully unequipped to deal with various things, has the life experiences of a seven year old [[spoiler: and later turns out to actually be one]], and is utterly [[HeroicBSOD horrified]] when he kills [[WhatMeasureIsAMook a person]]. He also has no experience with normal relationships (or friends for that matter) and is desperate to prove himself while also dealing with ''everyone'' basically wanting him to remember everything before his kidnapping ie they basically are all saying they '''hate''' this Luke and don't see him as the "real" one.
2nd May '17 4:17:05 PM ChrisX
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** Mohs is just repulsive [[spoiler:and for being the direct cause of Ion's death]].

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** Mohs is just repulsive [[spoiler:and for being the direct cause of Ion's death]]. He could look like a HateSink, but then the party expressed pity [[spoiler:when he died after a power overload due to his new form.]] But after all the time he spent of not only [[spoiler:Ion's death]], but constant stoneheaded rambling about fulfilling the Score, which even before then, was considered a ''complete hogwash''... [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic No way in hell the player will give him sympathy.]]
24th Apr '17 6:53:57 PM nombretomado
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* AwesomeMusic: One of the strongest contenders for the Best Soundtrack in the TalesSeries title. And that's saying something.

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* AwesomeMusic: One of the strongest contenders for the Best Soundtrack in the TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries title. And that's saying something.
19th Apr '17 8:25:44 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: In a meta sense, since Abyss is made by the same team behind ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Symphonia]]'' Luke is this to Lloyd. While both are [[IdiotHero Idiot Heroes]], Lloyd is an orphan from a poor background, starts off as a NiceGuy, and is TheUnchosenOne; meanwhile, Luke is from a wealthy background, starts off as a RoyalBrat with a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold heart of gold]], and is TheChosenOne [[spoiler: or rather not really since he's the replica of the original Luke fon Fabre]]. However, both go through serious crap and [[AwfulTruth Awful Truths]] that change how they view the world. Both also end up becoming charismatic leaders and [[TheMessiah messianic]] figures by the end and save the world. However [[spoiler: while Lloyd manages to save both worlds and get his HappyEnding, Luke has at best a BittersweetEnding that is [[GainaxEnding deliberately vague]] on whether or not he's the one BackFromTheDead.]]

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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: In a meta sense, since Abyss is made by the same team behind ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Symphonia]]'' Luke is this to Lloyd. While both are [[IdiotHero Idiot Heroes]], Lloyd is an orphan from a poor background, starts off as a NiceGuy, and is TheUnchosenOne; meanwhile, Luke is from a wealthy background, starts off as a RoyalBrat with a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold heart of gold]], and is TheChosenOne [[spoiler: or rather not really since he's the replica of the original Luke fon Fabre]]. Lloyd is [[spoiler: the [[HalfHumanHybrid son of an angel]]]] while Luke [[spoiler: is [[GodInHumanForm another Lorelei]]]]. However, both go through serious crap and [[AwfulTruth Awful Truths]] that change how they view the world. Both also end up becoming charismatic leaders and [[TheMessiah messianic]] figures by the end and save the world. However [[spoiler: while Lloyd manages to save both worlds and get his HappyEnding, Luke has at best a BittersweetEnding that is [[GainaxEnding deliberately vague]] on whether or not he's the one BackFromTheDead.]]
15th Apr '17 10:13:12 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: In a meta sense, since Abyss is made by the same team behind ''[[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Symphonia]]'' Luke is this to Lloyd. While both are [[IdiotHero Idiot Heroes]], Lloyd is an orphan from a poor background, starts off as a NiceGuy, and is TheUnchosenOne; meanwhile, Luke is from a wealthy background, starts off as a RoyalBrat with a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold heart of gold]], and is TheChosenOne [[spoiler: or rather not really since he's the replica of the original Luke fon Fabre]]. However, both go through serious crap and [[AwfulTruth Awful Truths]] that change how they view the world. Both also end up becoming charismatic leaders and [[TheMessiah messianic]] figures by the end and save the world. However [[spoiler: while Lloyd manages to save both worlds and get his HappyEnding, Luke has at best a BittersweetEnding that is [[GainaxEnding deliberately vague]] on whether or not he's the one BackFromTheDead.]]
13th Apr '17 7:54:54 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Luke. From how the fandom handles it, he ''really'' gets around from [[ScrewYourself Asch]] to [[LoliCon Anise]].
1st Apr '17 11:19:41 PM Timber
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* FanPreferredCouple: OneTruePairing notwithstanding (see below), given the amounts of HoYay and FoeYay in the game, Luke tends to get shipped with [[LauncherOfAThousandShips several people]]. The biggest ships being [[HoYay Luke-Guy]], [[FoeYay Luke-Van]], [[ScrewYourself Luke-Asch]]. On the female side, Luke also gets shipped with [[{{Lolicon}} Anise]] and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Natalia]].

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* FanPreferredCouple: OneTruePairing notwithstanding (see below), given the amounts of HoYay and FoeYay in the game, Luke tends to get shipped with [[LauncherOfAThousandShips several people]]. The biggest ships being [[HoYay Luke-Guy]], [[FoeYay Luke-Van]], Luke-]][[MentorShip Van]], [[ScrewYourself Luke-Asch]]. On the female side, Luke also gets shipped with [[{{Lolicon}} Anise]] and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Natalia]].
1st Apr '17 11:17:11 PM Timber
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** In the PS2 version, it was possible to remove the disk from the system while the game continued to run. This allowed you to go literally anywhere on the world map, and by replacing the disk, visit any location early to get powerful weapons that you weren't supposed to be able to access yet, most commonly the Keterburg Casino {{Lethal Joke Weapon}}s and the Vorpal Sword.
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