History YMMV / TalesoftheAbyss

18th Feb '18 6:54:42 PM nombretomado
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** In the PS2 version, it was possible to remove the disk from the system while the game continued to run. This allowed you to go literally anywhere on the world map, and by replacing the disk, visit any location early to get powerful weapons that you weren't supposed to be able to access yet, most commonly the Keterburg Casino {{Lethal Joke Weapon}}s and the Vorpal Sword.

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** In the PS2 [=PS2=] version, it was possible to remove the disk from the system while the game continued to run. This allowed you to go literally anywhere on the world map, and by replacing the disk, visit any location early to get powerful weapons that you weren't supposed to be able to access yet, most commonly the Keterburg Casino {{Lethal Joke Weapon}}s and the Vorpal Sword.
3rd Jan '18 8:19:42 PM SeekerSS
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3rd Jan '18 8:19:08 PM SeekerSS
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* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspicious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]



* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspicious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]
2nd Jan '18 12:11:03 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspicious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]
26th Dec '17 2:28:39 AM Immortalbear
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* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspicious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]
20th Dec '17 4:13:10 PM rixion
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* TheScrappy:
** Mohs is just repulsive [[spoiler:and for being the direct cause of Ion's death]]. He could look like a HateSink, but then the party expressed pity [[spoiler:when he died after a power overload due to his new form.]] But after all the time he spent of not only [[spoiler:Ion's death]], but constant stoneheaded rambling about fulfilling the Score, which even before then, was considered a ''complete hogwash''... [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic No way in hell the player will give him sympathy.]]
** Arietta for whining at the party for killing her Liger-mama, refusing to hear any sort of explanation and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for having a screechy, high voice]].
** In-universe parody, Mieu. He's a RidiculouslyCuteCritter with a high-pitched voice who helps the party solve puzzles and not much else. Even after Luke's CharacterDevelopment, he still calls Mieu "annoying" to Mieu's face. That and you kill a bunch of Ligers because he burnt down some of the forest making the wolves desperate to survive [[spoiler:As well as a little girl's (Arietta's) 'mommy.']]

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* TheScrappy:
** Mohs is just repulsive [[spoiler:and for being the direct cause of Ion's death]]. He could look like a HateSink, but then the party expressed pity [[spoiler:when he died after a power overload due to his new form.]] But after all the time he spent of not only [[spoiler:Ion's death]], but constant stoneheaded rambling about fulfilling the Score, which even before then, was considered a ''complete hogwash''... [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic No way in hell the player will give him sympathy.]]
** Arietta for whining at the party for killing her Liger-mama, refusing to hear any sort of explanation and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for having a screechy, high voice]].
** In-universe parody, Mieu. He's a RidiculouslyCuteCritter with a high-pitched voice who helps the party solve puzzles and not much else. Even after Luke's CharacterDevelopment, he still calls Mieu "annoying" to Mieu's face. That and you kill a bunch of Ligers because he burnt down some of the forest making the wolves desperate to survive [[spoiler:As well as a little girl's (Arietta's) 'mommy.']]
TheScrappy: [[TheScrappy/TalesSeries See here.]]
26th Nov '17 9:22:57 AM salvadorfranz
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* MemeticMutation: In Japan, Luke's line, "It's not my fault!" has become memetic enough that anytime his [[Creator/ChihiroSuzuki Japanese seiyuu]] shows up in the Tales of Festivals, this line will always show up.
4th Nov '17 3:36:34 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: In a TrueArtIsAngsty fashion. When one gets down to it, the reason Abyss was the darkest of the VideoGame/TalesSeries isn't in nightmare fuel, but in how it's just so damn ''depressing''. So many good people suffer and die [[spoiler: including ''TheHero himself'']] and it ends on a very [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] note that, if you do a certain sidequest, is even ''more'' bitter due to [[spoiler: how unlikely it is that Luke managed to return]]. This can lead one to be very, very tired of all the bad things that happen without any genuine [[EarnYourHappyEnding reward]] by the end.
16th Oct '17 12:41:12 PM SeekerSS
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** [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] and to what extent it was Luke's fault. On the one hand, was the disaster caused by Luke's selfishness (wanting to save the people only so he could become a hero and pursue his own agenda, and not caring about the people themselves or taking their suffering seriously), arrogance (blithely believing he could singlehandedly save the entire city despite having no training in hyperresonance), failure to tell the others about the plan (even Guy, whom he trusted), and blind faith in Van ([[spoiler:even after Van admitted to kidnapping Luke, giving a very flimsy justification[[note]]after all, if Van was saving Luke from painful and horrific experiments regarding his hyperresonance, why didn't these experiments resume once Luke returned?[[/note]] which directly contradicted what Van had told him only a few days before on the ferry]])? On the other hand, Luke was [[spoiler: only seven years old]]; Van was a father figure to Luke (Luke comments that Van was the only one to praise him, scold him, take him seriously); Van was in a position of trust and authority, being the Commandant of the Order of Lorelei, which shows that he was well respected in the world at large (including some of Luke's traveling companions); Luke's traveling companions, despite admonishing him to think for himself, [[DesignatedHero intentionally withheld critical information from him (including Tear's failure to tell him why she wanted to kill Van), refused to give him an alternate perspective other that Tear's claims that Van was evil because she said so, and acted in a dodgy manner]]; and the fact that [[DesignatedVillain Luke was hypnotized into carrying out the final, fatal act.]] Arguing either way would often lead to InternetBackdraft.

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** [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] and to what extent it was Luke's fault. On the one hand, was the disaster caused by Luke's selfishness (wanting to save the people only so he could become a hero and pursue his own agenda, and not caring about the people themselves or taking their suffering seriously), arrogance (blithely believing he could singlehandedly save the entire city despite having no training in hyperresonance), failure to tell the others about the plan (even Guy, whom he trusted), and blind faith in Van ([[spoiler:even after Van admitted to kidnapping Luke, giving a very flimsy justification[[note]]after all, if Van was saving Luke from painful and horrific experiments regarding his hyperresonance, why didn't these experiments resume once Luke returned?[[/note]] which directly contradicted what Van had told him only a few days before on the ferry]])? On the other hand, Luke was [[spoiler: only seven years old]]; Van was a father figure to Luke (Luke comments that Van was the only one to praise him, scold him, take him seriously); Van was in a position of trust and authority, being the Commandant of the Order of Lorelei, which shows that he was well respected in the world at large (including some of Luke's traveling companions); Luke's traveling companions, despite admonishing him to think for himself, [[DesignatedHero [[FelonyMisdemeanor intentionally withheld critical information from him (including Tear's failure to tell him why she wanted to kill Van), refused to give him an alternate perspective other that Tear's claims that Van was evil because she said so, and acted in a dodgy manner]]; and the fact that [[DesignatedVillain Luke was hypnotized into carrying out the final, fatal act.]] Arguing either way would often lead to InternetBackdraft.
12th Oct '17 5:45:14 PM FateStayWho
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* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspcious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]

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* DesignatedHero: ''The entire party'' (minus Ion) post [[spoiler: Akzeriuth]] as explained [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below]]. Their treatment of Luke falls flat [[spoiler: when it turns out a good chunk of them ''knew'' something in regards to the entire incident (Guy knew about Van's plans, Tear had all the reason to see Van as the BigBad, Jade had figured out key information, and Anise was [[TheMole working for Mohs]] plus Natalia heard enough of Luke's conversation with Van pre mission to be ''somewhat'' suspcious) suspicious) and most of them also know at this point that Luke is truly seven.]]]]
** Asch is even worse. Before the reveal that Luke [[spoiler:is his replica]], he spends most of his appearances hurling abuse at people, tries to kill Luke and would have done so if not for Van and tries to make Luke kill Tear once the channel between them is open. After the reveal, [[EasilyForgiven none of this is ever brought up again]]. To top if off he constantly hurls abuse at Luke and the party outside of [[MoralityPet Natalia]], and they just accept it.


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** [[spoiler: Van at Akzeriuth. He easily takes advantage of how Luke trusts him and the distrust the rest of the cast have plays them all for fools.]]
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