History YMMV / TalesOfXillia

17th Nov '16 4:04:15 AM ChrisX
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** Muzet, largely due to her KarmaHoudini status. [[spoiler: In Judes path she outright ''murders'' most of the villagers in Nia Khera, just because they had heard [[HeKnowsTooMuch stories about the schism]]. In Millas path she does the same but we learn she also slaughtered many spirits out of suspicion that one may be Milla in disguise. Her feelings of being abandoned by Maxwell can come off as {{Wangst}} to the player.]] On top of all this, she's an absurdly cheap boss in Milla's story, one of the hardest in the game.

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** Muzet, largely due to her KarmaHoudini status. [[spoiler: In Judes Jude's path she outright ''murders'' most of the villagers in Nia Khera, just because they had heard [[HeKnowsTooMuch stories about the schism]]. schism]], and to top it all off, also giving Jude a malignant MindRape about Milla's status as a double for Maxwell a bit too gleefully that he fell into a ''big'' HeroicBSOD. In Millas Milla's path she does the same but we learn she also slaughtered many spirits out of suspicion that one may be Milla in disguise. Her feelings of being abandoned by Maxwell can come off as {{Wangst}} to the player.]] On top of all this, she's an absurdly cheap boss in Milla's story, one of the hardest in the game.
21st Oct '16 12:10:34 AM YourBrainOnTaint
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** Rewatching when you know that Milla [[spoiler: really is just a human woman who was duped]] is a fascinating and unsettling experience. Particularly anytime she mentions [[spoiler: her mission, 'you humans', her role as Maxwell etc]].
11th Oct '16 2:32:10 PM omegafire17
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* CharacterShilling: It's clear that the writers wanted gamers to ''[[BreakoutCharacter really like]]'' Mila, because they have the rest of the cast repeatedly talk about how awesome and inspiring she is. Except many gamers disagreed [[InformedAttribute because they didn't see those qualities, themselves.]]
** In Nia Khera, all the villagers worship her mere presence because she's essentially Maxwell in physical form. [[spoiler: This becomes misplaced when you find out she's not really Maxwell, just created by the real one, not that anyone knew that]].
** However, Jude is the game's main offender, often going on about how strong, courageous, and inspirational Milla is, and how much he wants to be with her. Which is due to his [[ActionGirl admiration of her]], and his personal feelings for her.
** Rowen and the others do this as well, particularly during the latter half of the game where each of them talks about the various ways she's inspired them and how they feel motivated whenever she's with them. At one point, Leia even confides in Milla that she was trying to be more ''like her'' [[spoiler: because she was jealous of Jude's attraction to Milla]]. This point [[SelectiveObliviousness goes]] ''[[SelectiveObliviousness completely]]'' [[SelectiveObliviousness over Milla's head]], which makes Leia wonder if she was worrying for nothing.
** Even the game's villains get in on it, with Gaius expressing his admiration for Mila's conviction, despite being on opposing sides with her. So does Muzet, though some of her remarks about Mila are [[BitchInSheepsClothing laced with veiled sarcasm.]]
** Gaius is complimented by everyone in the party even though some of ruling strategies are archaic and shortsighted at best. This is gets so much worse when they are still compliamenting even though he has threatened their lives multiple times, and eventually escalates to [[spoiler:nearly [[KillThemAll committing]] [[InferredHolocaust genocide.]]]]

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* CharacterShilling: It's clear that the writers wanted gamers to ''[[BreakoutCharacter really like]]'' Mila, because they have the rest A good chunk of the cast repeatedly talk about how awesome and inspiring she is. Except many gamers disagreed Milla Maxwell is throughout the game. One side agrees with this to various levels... [[InformedAttribute because they didn't see those qualities, themselves.but the other side don't at all, not seeing how she deserves such praise.]]
** In Nia Khera, all the villagers worship her mere presence because she's essentially Maxwell in physical form. [[spoiler: This becomes misplaced when you find out she's not really Maxwell, just created by the real one, not that anyone the villagers knew that]].
** However, Jude is the game's main offender, often going in particular goes on about how strong, courageous, and inspirational Milla is, and how much he wants to be with her. Which This is due to his [[ActionGirl admiration of her]], and his personal feelings for her.
** Rowen and the others do this as well, particularly during the latter half of the game where each of them talks they talk about the various ways she's inspired them them, and how they feel motivated whenever she's with them. At one point, Leia even confides in Milla that she was trying to be more ''like her'' [[spoiler: because she was jealous of Jude's attraction to Milla]]. This Milla]], the latter point [[SelectiveObliviousness goes]] ''[[SelectiveObliviousness completely]]'' [[SelectiveObliviousness going over Milla's head]], head however, which makes Leia wonder if she was she's worrying for nothing.
** Even the game's villains get in on it, villains, with Gaius expressing his admiration for Mila's conviction, [[VillainRespect despite being on opposing sides with her. her.]] So does Muzet, though some of her remarks about Mila Milla are [[BitchInSheepsClothing laced with veiled sarcasm.]]
** Gaius is *** Speaking of Gaius, he's complimented by everyone in the party even though some of his ruling strategies are seem archaic and shortsighted at best. This is gets so much worse when they are They're still compliamenting complimenting even though he has after he's threatened their lives multiple times, and eventually escalates to [[spoiler:nearly [[KillThemAll committing]] [[InferredHolocaust genocide.]]]]genocide]]]].



* DisappointingLastLevel: [[spoiler: Elympios.]] An interesting case in that it's disappointing because it should have been so much more that just a "last level". See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot.

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* DisappointingLastLevel: [[spoiler: Elympios.]] An interesting case in that it's disappointing because it should have should've been so much more that just a "last level". See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot.
15th Aug '16 1:52:40 PM PhiSat
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** Ivar is either a funny screw up with poor judgement or an annoying idiot who ends up [[UnwittingPawn making everything worse]] for everyone in a moment of EpicFail and deserves to die.
15th Aug '16 1:48:45 PM PhiSat
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreakingCharacter on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons, ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreakingCharacter on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons, ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling.CharacterShilling and accusations of GodModeSue. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.
7th Aug '16 7:33:47 PM Anddrix
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreaker on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons, ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons, ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.



* BaseBreaker:

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23rd May '16 7:03:51 AM digiblackraven93
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreaker on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is a BaseBreaker on the Western side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons reasons, ranging from her voice acting to claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.
23rd May '16 7:03:13 AM digiblackraven93
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by the Western audience due to her DullSurprise performance compared to the Japanese version. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by a BaseBreaker on the Western audience due to side of the fandom for a multitude of reasons ranging from her DullSurprise performance compared voice acting to the Japanese version.claims of CharacterShilling. In Japan though she's fairly well liked enough to where she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.
18th Jan '16 1:54:43 AM catmuto
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** Shop building. Instead of new equipment being available in any new town the player walks into, new things will only pop up, if the player has put enough resources into a specific shop's level. Meaning, unless the player has grinded for some material outside of town and regularly works on the shop building, they'll be stuck with older equipment that leaves them vulnerable. Consequently, this ''can'' lead to early [[DiscOneNuke game breaking equipment]], if done right.



* ThatOneLevel: The S. S. Zenethria is a large ship controlled by Exodus. Visually, it's not very interesting and the layout is absolutely symmetrical, meaning the player will likely need to open the map a few times to know where they are and what they have done up to now. The corridors of the area are also very narrow, making it difficult to avoid random encounters.



** Also, the lack of item synthesis and cooking was not received well by the fans as many felt it took away two of the main mechanic's away that had been in the series since the start.

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** Also, the lack of item synthesis and cooking was not received well by the fans fans, as many felt it took away two of the main mechanic's away mechanics that had been in the series since the start.
17th Jan '16 5:27:29 PM hitmonkey
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* DracoinLeatherPants: Gaius. It says alot that an overlord nearly committed genocide (immediate or otherwise) could have so many fans.

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* DracoinLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants: Gaius. It says alot that an overlord nearly committed genocide (immediate or otherwise) could have so many fans.
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