History YMMV / TalesOfXillia

18th Jan '16 1:54:43 AM catmuto
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** Shop building. Instead of new equipment being available in any new town the player walks into, new things will only pop up, if the player has put enough resources into a specific shop's level. Meaning, unless the player has grinded for some material outside of town and regularly works on the shop building, they'll be stuck with older equipment that leaves them vulnerable. Consequently, this ''can'' lead to early [[DiscOneNuke game breaking equipment]], if done right.



* ThatOneLevel: The S. S. Zenethria is a large ship controlled by Exodus. Visually, it's not very interesting and the layout is absolutely symmetrical, meaning the player will likely need to open the map a few times to know where they are and what they have done up to now. The corridors of the area are also very narrow, making it difficult to avoid random encounters.



** Also, the lack of item synthesis and cooking was not received well by the fans as many felt it took away two of the main mechanic's away that had been in the series since the start.

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** Also, the lack of item synthesis and cooking was not received well by the fans fans, as many felt it took away two of the main mechanic's away mechanics that had been in the series since the start.
17th Jan '16 5:27:29 PM hitmonkey
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* DracoinLeatherPants: Gaius. It says alot that an overlord nearly committed genocide (immediate or otherwise) could have so many fans.

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* DracoinLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants: Gaius. It says alot that an overlord nearly committed genocide (immediate or otherwise) could have so many fans.
14th Jan '16 6:47:36 AM katethegr8
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** Teepo. I know he's supposed to be a Scrappy-type character, but I just honestly can't hate the little guy: he's like Scrappy done properly.
14th Jan '16 6:45:45 AM katethegr8
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* CreatorsPet: Milla. In addition to the preceding entry, she plays a massive role in the story and its sequel, and despite being from one of the most recent Tales of games, she's already appeared in ''VideoGame/TalesOfInnocence'' as a cameo boss and in ''Tales of the World: Reve Unitia'' as ''Xillia's'' representative. Given that the latter features [[EnsembleDarkhorse the most popular characters]] of each entry, Milla seems to be favored by the writers.
** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him king of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power back into power after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.
13th Jan '16 11:10:52 AM Immortalbear
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** Gaius is complimented by everyone in the party even though some of ruling strategies are archaic and shortsighted at best. This is gets so much worse when they are still compliamenting even though he has threatened their lives multiple times, and eventually escalates to [[spoiler:nearly [[KillThemAll committing]] [[InferredHolocaust genocide.]]

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** Gaius is complimented by everyone in the party even though some of ruling strategies are archaic and shortsighted at best. This is gets so much worse when they are still compliamenting even though he has threatened their lives multiple times, and eventually escalates to [[spoiler:nearly [[KillThemAll committing]] [[InferredHolocaust genocide.]]]]]]



** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him king of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.

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** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him king of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews back into power after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.
13th Jan '16 5:41:10 AM Immortalbear
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** Gaius is complimented by everyone in the party even though some of ruling strategies are archaic and shortsighted at best. This is gets so much worse when they are still compliamenting even though he has threatened their lives multiple times, and eventually escalates to [[spoiler:nearly [[KillThemAll committing]] [[InferredHolocaust genocide.]]



** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.

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** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president king of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.



** Gaius, for [[{{Badass}} obvious]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist reasons.]] This is the main reason why he's playable in the sequel.

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** Gaius, Gaius is loved for [[{{Badass}} obvious]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist reasons.]] This his sheer badassery which is the main reason why he's he is playable in the sequel.
13th Jan '16 4:49:53 AM Immortalbear
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* Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.

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* ** Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.



* TheScrappy:
** Jude. He becomes a massive dumbass whenever Milla comes up. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap He does get better in the sequel, and his English dub was more well received.]]
** Milla, too, when she isn't a BaseBreaker. With the heavy amount of [[CharacterShilling shilling]] she gets and even the more simple actions of hers getting praised, it's difficult to like her. The fact that she comes off as very strange to regular 'human' things can easily slip from an understandable, almost endearing trait to an obnoxious one. [[DullSurprise Her English voice acting]], including a lisp, doesn't help much. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Just like Jude, though, she improves in the sequel]].
** Teepo. Sweet mercy, ''Teepo''. If you don't find him annoying, you ''may'' hate him after [[spoiler: he gets forcibly reset, and can only tell Elize he's "just a machine" right when she needs him the most.]]

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* TheScrappy:
** Jude. He becomes a massive dumbass whenever Milla comes up. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap He does get better in the sequel, and his English dub was more well received.]]
** Milla, too, when she isn't a BaseBreaker. With the heavy amount of [[CharacterShilling shilling]] she gets and even the more simple actions of hers getting praised, it's difficult to like her. The fact that she comes off as very strange to regular 'human' things can easily slip from an understandable, almost endearing trait to an obnoxious one. [[DullSurprise Her English voice acting]], including a lisp, doesn't help much. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Just like Jude, though, she improves in the sequel]].
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TheScrappy: Teepo. Sweet mercy, ''Teepo''. If you don't find him annoying, you ''may'' hate him after [[spoiler: he gets forcibly reset, and can only tell Elize he's "just a machine" right when she needs him the most.]]
13th Jan '16 4:46:23 AM Immortalbear
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* Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]]since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.

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* Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]]since sentence]] since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.
13th Jan '16 4:45:38 AM Immortalbear
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by the Western audience due to her DullSurprise performance compared to the Japanese version. In Japan though she's well liked, not too popular in comparison sure, but fairly well liked enough to where the made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by the Western audience due to her DullSurprise performance compared to the Japanese version. In Japan though she's well liked, not too popular in comparison sure, but she's fairly well liked enough to where the she made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.



** Jude and Milla's relationship. Many dislike it for either Jude ignoring [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Leia]], him and Milla not admitting their feelings and actually being a couple, or the fact that it's implied that EveryoneCanSeeIt as well as the Shipteases that doesn't actually happen. Others enjoy a romance that doesn't throw it in your face or make it take up the entire story. In the English version especially, there's apparently a lack of actual chemistry between the voice actors as well as some dialogue that is more romantic and emotional in Japanese than it is in English. Add this to a higher level of disdain for Milla, especially (Jude as well to a certain extent) in the West.

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** Jude and Milla's relationship. Many dislike it for either Jude ignoring [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Leia]], him and Milla not admitting their feelings and actually being a couple, or the fact that it's implied that EveryoneCanSeeIt as well as the Shipteases that doesn't actually happen. Others enjoy a romance that doesn't throw it in your face or make it take up the entire story. In the English version especially, there's apparently a lack of actual chemistry between the voice actors as well as some dialogue that is more romantic and emotional in Japanese than it is in English. Add this to a higher level of disdain for Milla, especially (Jude as well to a certain extent) in the West.



* CreatorsPet: Milla again. In addition to the preceding entry, she plays a massive role in the story and its sequel, and despite being from one of the most recent Tales of games, she's already appeared in ''VideoGame/TalesOfInnocence'' as a cameo boss and in ''Tales of the World: Reve Unitia'' as ''Xillia's'' representative. Given that the latter features [[EnsembleDarkhorse the most popular characters]] of each entry, Milla seems to be favored by the writers.

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* CreatorsPet: Milla again.Milla. In addition to the preceding entry, she plays a massive role in the story and its sequel, and despite being from one of the most recent Tales of games, she's already appeared in ''VideoGame/TalesOfInnocence'' as a cameo boss and in ''Tales of the World: Reve Unitia'' as ''Xillia's'' representative. Given that the latter features [[EnsembleDarkhorse the most popular characters]] of each entry, Milla seems to be favored by the writers.writers.
* Gaius is so much worse. In the Japanese version, [[spoiler: he wants to kill everyone in Elympios to ensure his own world's safety.]] In the english version, [[spoiler: he just wants to destroy their spyrix, which is still a [[InferredHolocaust death sentence]]since he is condemning them to live on a dead world with no technology.]] His reward for his acts of villany? They elect him president of the world! This is the equivalent of having Hitler be elected to power by the Jews after having the "Final Solution" exposed and defeated.



* EvilIsCool: Gaius, for a certain definition of "evil". Part of the reasons why he's an EnsembleDarkhorse.

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* DracoinLeatherPants: Gaius. It says alot that an overlord nearly committed genocide (immediate or otherwise) could have so many fans.
* EvilIsCool: Gaius, for a certain definition of "evil". Part of the reasons why he's an EnsembleDarkhorse.some anyway.



* StrangledByTheRedString: Some people think Jude and Milla's OfficialCouple status was poorly handled due in large part to the fact that neither (verbally) admitted their feelings for each other, and the hints themselves are YMMV. Therefore, a few people will claim they were a LastMinuteHookup.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Some people think Jude and Milla's OfficialCouple status was poorly handled due in large part to the fact that neither (verbally) admitted their feelings for each other, and the hints themselves are YMMV.other. Therefore, a few people will claim they were a LastMinuteHookup.
31st Dec '15 2:38:44 AM MagBas
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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by the Western audience due to coming across as too much of a CanonSue and her DullSurprise performance compared to the Japanese version. In Japan though she's well liked, not too popular in comparison sure, but fairly well liked enough to where the made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Milla is disliked by the Western audience due to coming across as too much of a CanonSue and her DullSurprise performance compared to the Japanese version. In Japan though she's well liked, not too popular in comparison sure, but fairly well liked enough to where the made it into the top twenty in the most recently popularity polls.



** Milla is either one of the best female characters in the series and a solid example of an [[ActionGirl action girl]] done right, or she's a MarySue, who's hardly developed and [[CharacterShilling shilled to the Nth degree.]]

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** Milla is either one of the best female characters in the series and a solid example of an [[ActionGirl action girl]] done right, or she's a MarySue, who's hardly developed and [[CharacterShilling shilled to the Nth degree.]]



* CanonSue: Milla can easily come across as one, [[CharacterShilling due to all the praise and adoration that gets lavished on her]] [[InformedAttribute for qualities the gamer may not agree that she has]] (seen below). On top of the fact that she's a GodInHumanForm [[spoiler: so she was lead to believe)]], and the fact that everyone seems to love her or befriend right away. Its little wonder some consider her [[TheScrappy a scrappy]].
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