History YMMV / TalesOfDestiny

2nd Feb '18 10:29:25 AM PhiSat
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* {{Narm}}: In the game version of Leon's Side in the remake, we hear Marian [[spoiler: tried to kill herself after being held prisoner by Hugo's generals.]] In the manga, we get treated to the scene of Marian [[spoiler: loudly proclaiming she will kill herself when all of them are standing mere meters from her while she holds a butter knife.]] It's completely ridiculous and blows any serious weight the scene might have had out the window.
20th Jan '18 4:22:51 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Kongman is a rather hilarious example, actually. He's a very minor optional character in the original, but his portrayal in the remake vaulted him into popularity. People love to hate him, and Namco's bonus DVD's waste ''no'' effort in ripping the piss out of him.

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** Kongman is a rather hilarious example, actually. He's a very minor optional character in the original, but his portrayal in the remake vaulted him into popularity.popularity to the point where he personality was more developed in the remake. People love to hate him, and Namco's bonus DVD's waste ''no'' effort in ripping the piss out of him.
1st Jan '18 5:03:51 AM rixion
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Marian [[ObliviousToLove oblivious to Leon's feelings towards her]], or does [[JustFriends she see them as purely platonic?]] Or alternately, is she [[BetterAsFriends not interested?]]
** Is the PSX version of Leon [[spoiler: [[SuicideByCop trying to get killed]]]] or was he just a jerk who bit off more than he could chew [[spoiler: in his final scene?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Is Marian [[ObliviousToLove oblivious to Leon's feelings towards her]], or does [[JustFriends she see them as purely platonic?]] Or alternately, is she [[BetterAsFriends not interested?]]
** Is the PSX [=PS1=] version of Leon [[spoiler: [[SuicideByCop trying to get killed]]]] or was he just a jerk who bit off more than he could chew [[spoiler: in his final scene?]]



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Leon Magnus constantly tops favourite Tales series character polls in Japan, [[spoiler:returns in the sequel as Judas]], and has a tendency to appear as a major player in other games like ''Namco X Capcom''. The remake even gave players an option to use him as the main character. [[spoiler:But he still dies the same way.]])
** Leon's ascendancy seems to have been eclipsed by [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri]]-[[MemeticBadass Freaking]]-[[AntiHero Lowell]], but considering Judas ranked as the 29th most popular character, were one to combine the number of votes Leon and Judas each gathered, Leon is ''still'' the most popular ''Tales'' character.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Leon Magnus constantly tops favourite Tales series character polls in Japan, [[spoiler:returns in the sequel as Judas]], and has a tendency to appear as a major player in other games like ''Namco X Capcom''. The remake even gave players an option to use him as the main character. [[spoiler:But he still dies the same way.]])
** *** Leon's ascendancy seems to have been eclipsed by [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri]]-[[MemeticBadass Freaking]]-[[AntiHero Lowell]], but considering Judas ranked as the 29th most popular character, were one to combine the number of votes Leon and Judas each gathered, Leon is ''still'' the most popular ''Tales'' character.



* MemeticMolester: Hugo is quite possibly the single best example in the series, no thanks to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVtcQoIssM this bit of]] MemeticMutation. Becomes a subtle AscendedMeme in the remake when he gives Leon a mushroom known to resemble certain anatomy just to make Leon uncomfortable. [[spoiler:Another part of this status can also apply to Miktran himself due to him being the one who was manipulating and possessing Hugo]].

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* MemeticMolester: MemeticMolester:
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Hugo is quite possibly the single best example in the series, no thanks to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVtcQoIssM this bit of]] MemeticMutation. Becomes a subtle AscendedMeme in the remake when he gives Leon a mushroom known to resemble certain anatomy just to make Leon uncomfortable. [[spoiler:Another part of this status can also apply to Miktran himself due to him being the one who was manipulating and possessing Hugo]].
20th Dec '17 4:08:32 PM rixion
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* TheScrappy: Rutee in the original game. She's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold {{Tsundere}} OnlyInItForTheMoney with too much emphasis on the jerk part, too much story sympathy, and violent interactions with characters who don't deserve it. Added with the DieForOurShip from Stahn[=/=]Leon fans, she's not well-liked at all, though her {{Jerkass}} tendencies were toned down in the remake, much like Leon's, and she shows remorse for some of her actions, like insulting Philia.

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* TheScrappy: Rutee in the original game. She's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold {{Tsundere}} OnlyInItForTheMoney with too much emphasis on the jerk part, too much story sympathy, and violent interactions with characters who don't deserve it. Added with the DieForOurShip from Stahn[=/=]Leon fans, she's not well-liked at all, though her {{Jerkass}} tendencies were toned down in the remake, much like Leon's, and she shows remorse for some of her actions, like insulting Philia.[[TheScrappy/TalesSeries See here.]]
14th Oct '17 1:40:30 AM SneaselSawashiro
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* MemeticMolester: Hugo is quite possibly the single best example in the series, no thanks to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVtcQoIssM this bit of]] MemeticMutation. Becomes a subtle AscendedMeme in the remake when he gives Leon a mushroom known to resemble certain anatomy just to make Leon uncomfortable.

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* MemeticMolester: Hugo is quite possibly the single best example in the series, no thanks to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVtcQoIssM this bit of]] MemeticMutation. Becomes a subtle AscendedMeme in the remake when he gives Leon a mushroom known to resemble certain anatomy just to make Leon uncomfortable. [[spoiler:Another part of this status can also apply to Miktran himself due to him being the one who was manipulating and possessing Hugo]].
13th Oct '17 7:15:20 AM MightyKombat
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** [[spoiler:Though to also be fair, [[DemonicPossession since Hugo was being possessed by Miktran/Kronos]], to the point where it's possible Miktran/Kronos himself can have this disturbing meme apply to him before the events of the game even started]].
12th Oct '17 9:03:45 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** [[spoiler:Though to also be fair, [[GrandTheftMe since Hugo was being possessed by Miktran/Kronos]], it makes one wonder how that guy was like ''before even manipulating and possessing Hugo''.....the extended possibilities can possibly creep anyone out, even Hugo himself]].

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** [[spoiler:Though to also be fair, [[GrandTheftMe [[DemonicPossession since Hugo was being possessed by Miktran/Kronos]], it makes one wonder how that guy was like ''before to the point where it's possible Miktran/Kronos himself can have this disturbing meme apply to him before the events of the game even manipulating and possessing Hugo''.....the extended possibilities can possibly creep anyone out, even Hugo himself]].started]].
12th Oct '17 9:02:22 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** [[spoiler:Though to also be fair, [[GrandTheftMe since Hugo was being possessed by Miktran/Kronos]], it makes one wonder how that guy was like ''before even manipulating and possessing Hugo''.....the extended possibilities can possibly creep anyone out, even Hugo himself]].
12th Oct '17 8:54:24 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Geneijin is more spammable than spam itself.

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** Geneijin Gen'eijin is more spammable than spam itself.
27th Feb '17 10:29:15 AM PhiSat
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** Is the PSX version of Leon [[spoiler: [[SuicideByCop trying to get killed]]]] or was he just a jerk who bit off more than he could chew [[spoiler: in his final scene?]]
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