History YMMV / SupermanTheatricalCartoons

24th Dec '17 12:42:57 AM SpaceDrake
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* CounterpartComparison: While none of Superman's usual RoguesGallery shows up in any of the shorts, the Mad Scientist from the first episode greatly resembles the original Ultra Humanite only with no paralysis. Likewise, the scientist in "The Magnetic Telescope" bears more than a passing resemblance to ComicBook/LexLuthor, though looks more like Doctor Sivana. Also, while visually different, the villain of "The Mechanical Monsters" operates a lot like the Toyman.

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* CounterpartComparison: While none of Superman's usual RoguesGallery shows up in any of the shorts, shorts (a great number of them didn't ''exist'' back when these were made), the Mad Scientist from the first episode greatly resembles the original Ultra Humanite only with no paralysis. Likewise, the scientist in "The Magnetic Telescope" bears more than a passing resemblance to ComicBook/LexLuthor, though looks more like his visual design is closer to that of Doctor Sivana. Also, while visually different, the villain of "The Mechanical Monsters" operates a lot like the Toyman.



** "The Electric Earthquake" has a Native American villain who is a [[AffablyEvil well spoken]] WellIntentionedExtremist MadScientist type who dressed in either a contemporary urban suit and tie or in laboratory gear, with only somewhat longer hair to mark his ethnic identity. For a 1940s American cartoon, that is a remarkably sophisticated subversion of a common racial stereotype of the time.

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** "The Electric Earthquake" has a Native American villain who is a [[AffablyEvil well spoken]] WellIntentionedExtremist MadScientist type who dressed in either a contemporary urban suit and tie or in laboratory gear, with only somewhat longer hair to mark his ethnic identity. For a 1940s American cartoon, that is a remarkably ''remarkably'' sophisticated subversion of a common racial stereotype of the time.
17th Dec '17 2:49:35 AM SpaceDrake
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* FairForItsDay: "The Electric Earthquake" has a Native American villain who is a [[AffablyEvil well spoken]] WellIntentionedExtremist MadScientist type who dressed in either a contemporary urban suit and tie or in laboratory gear, with only somewhat longer hair to mark his ethnic identity. For a 1940s American cartoon, that is a remarkably sophisticated subversion of a common racial stereotype of the time.

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"The Electric Earthquake" has a Native American villain who is a [[AffablyEvil well spoken]] WellIntentionedExtremist MadScientist type who dressed in either a contemporary urban suit and tie or in laboratory gear, with only somewhat longer hair to mark his ethnic identity. For a 1940s American cartoon, that is a remarkably sophisticated subversion of a common racial stereotype of the time.
13th Dec '17 7:09:00 PM PaulA
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** Sadly, not so in "Jungle Drums" or "Japoteurs" where the villains get some fairly harsh stereotyping. The latter is at least somewhat understandable (Pearl Harbor and America's WW2 entry happened during the run of the series, and "Japoteurs" is a typical propaganda piece of the day) but still very unfortunate and sad to see in hindsight.

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** Sadly, not so in "Jungle Drums" or "Japoteurs" where the villains get some fairly harsh stereotyping. The latter is at least somewhat understandable (Pearl Harbor and America's WW2 World War II entry happened during the run of the series, and "Japoteurs" is a typical propaganda piece of the day) but still very unfortunate and sad to see in hindsight.
5th Dec '17 11:29:14 PM SpaceDrake
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** Sadly, not so in "Jungle Drums" or "Japoteurs" where the villains get some fairly harsh stereotyping.

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** Sadly, not so in "Jungle Drums" or "Japoteurs" where the villains get some fairly harsh stereotyping. The latter is at least somewhat understandable (Pearl Harbor and America's WW2 entry happened during the run of the series, and "Japoteurs" is a typical propaganda piece of the day) but still very unfortunate and sad to see in hindsight.
16th Jul '17 5:32:07 PM nombretomado
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* ValuesDissonance: In a surprising lack of this for a WW2-era propaganda cartoon, the Native American villain from ''Electric Earthquake'' is even played without stereotype; but the African tribe from ''Jungle Drums''... has about the level of racial stereotype you can imagine from this kind of media. As does'' Japoteurs'', which features some outright racist, stereotypical Japanese villains.

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* ValuesDissonance: In a surprising lack of this for a WW2-era [=WW2=]-era propaganda cartoon, the Native American villain from ''Electric Earthquake'' is even played without stereotype; but the African tribe from ''Jungle Drums''... has about the level of racial stereotype you can imagine from this kind of media. As does'' Japoteurs'', which features some outright racist, stereotypical Japanese villains.
6th Jul '17 2:11:20 PM MagBas
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* BrokenBase: There is division over the Famous Studios cartoons of the series. While some find them to be just as visually impressive as the Fleischer-directed shorts, others disliked the relative cheapness of the cartoons and forced science fiction undertones within the plots. The addition of more [[UnfortunateImplications stereotypical villains]], particularly Japanse and German spies ([[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo for obvious reasons]]), doesn't help matters.

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* BrokenBase: There is division over the Famous Studios cartoons of the series. While some find them to be just as visually impressive as the Fleischer-directed shorts, others disliked the relative cheapness of the cartoons and forced science fiction undertones within the plots. The addition of more [[UnfortunateImplications stereotypical villains]], particularly Japanse and German spies ([[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo for obvious reasons]]), doesn't help matters.
8th Jan '17 2:04:31 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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** Some of the cartoons showcase Superman's timing in stopping whatever threat is in play as oddly lax, usually waiting until either Lois gets involved or until Clark is directly effected. Case in point, the titular villains in "The Bulleteers" manage to destroy Police Headquarters and demolish the City Power Plant, causing a citywide blackout, before Clark ever gets involved. This can be a little jarring for people who see Superman as a proactive force for good.

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** Some of the cartoons showcase Superman's timing in stopping whatever threat is in play as oddly lax, usually waiting until either Lois gets involved or until Clark is directly effected.affected. Case in point, the titular villains in "The Bulleteers" manage to destroy Police Headquarters and demolish the City Power Plant, causing a citywide blackout, before Clark ever gets involved. This can be a little jarring for people who see Superman as a proactive force for good.



* ValuesDissonance: A surprising lack of this for a WW2-era propaganda cartoon, the native american villain from ''Electric Earthquake'' is even played without stereotype, but the African tribe from ''Jungle Drums''... has about the level of racial stereotype you can imagine from this kind of media. As does'' Japoteurs'', which features some outright racist, stereotypical Japanese villains.

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* ValuesDissonance: A In a surprising lack of this for a WW2-era propaganda cartoon, the native american Native American villain from ''Electric Earthquake'' is even played without stereotype, stereotype; but the African tribe from ''Jungle Drums''... has about the level of racial stereotype you can imagine from this kind of media. As does'' Japoteurs'', which features some outright racist, stereotypical Japanese villains.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Or rather, DC has wasted a perfectly good character. [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever The Arctic Giant]] can never be called a {{Notzilla}}, because it ''predates'' {{Franchise/Godzilla}}. As such, Superman can fight this potentially recurring giant dinosaur time and again, without fear of being sued by Toho, because it ''circumvents'' dreaded Internal Copyright Laws. Yet... it hasn't reappeared since its debut in the 40s.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Or rather, DC has wasted a perfectly good character. [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever The Arctic Giant]] can never be called a {{Notzilla}}, because it ''predates'' {{Franchise/Godzilla}}. As such, Superman can fight this potentially recurring giant dinosaur time and again, without fear of being sued by Toho, because it ''circumvents'' dreaded Internal International Copyright Laws. Yet... it hasn't reappeared since its debut in the 40s.
27th Nov '16 12:27:06 PM Thorion
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** "Terror on the Midway" features Superman doing battle with a KillerGorilla called Gigantic seventeen years before the debut of Titano.
27th Sep '16 9:30:26 AM CJO123
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* BrokenBase: There is division over the post-Fleischer cartoons of the series. While some find them to be just as visually impressive as the Fleischer-directed shorts, others disliked the relative cheapness of the cartoons and forced science fiction undertones within the plots. The addition of more [[UnfortunateImplications stereotypical villains]], particularly Japanse and German spies ([[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo for obvious reasons]]), doesn't help matters.

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* BrokenBase: There is division over the post-Fleischer Famous Studios cartoons of the series. While some find them to be just as visually impressive as the Fleischer-directed shorts, others disliked the relative cheapness of the cartoons and forced science fiction undertones within the plots. The addition of more [[UnfortunateImplications stereotypical villains]], particularly Japanse and German spies ([[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo for obvious reasons]]), doesn't help matters.
3rd Sep '16 9:50:01 AM Tork
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** Some of the cartoons showcase Superman's timing in stopping whatever threat is in play as oddly lax, usually waiting until either Lois gets involved or until Clark is directly effected. Case in point, the titular villains in "The Bulleteers" manage to destroy Police Headquarters and demolish the City Power Plant, causing a citywide blackout, before Clark ever gets involved. This can be a little jarring for people who see Superman as a proactive force for good.



* CounterpartComparison: While none of Superman's usual RoguesGallery shows up in any of the shorts, the Mad Scientist from the first episode greatly resembles the original Ultra Humanite only with no paralysis. Likewise, the scientist in "The Magnetic Telescope" bears more than a passing resemblance to ComicBook/LexLuthor, though looks more like Doctor Sivana.

to:

* CounterpartComparison: While none of Superman's usual RoguesGallery shows up in any of the shorts, the Mad Scientist from the first episode greatly resembles the original Ultra Humanite only with no paralysis. Likewise, the scientist in "The Magnetic Telescope" bears more than a passing resemblance to ComicBook/LexLuthor, though looks more like Doctor Sivana. Also, while visually different, the villain of "The Mechanical Monsters" operates a lot like the Toyman.
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