History YMMV / SuperRobotWarsL

16th Feb '16 1:37:31 PM advent_child
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* AnticlimaxBoss: While [[Anime/{{Iczer}} Big Gold]] is a FragileSpeedster, unlike some {{Mook}}s, the party has exceptionally easy means to bypass her high evasion stats (such as the "Strike" Spirit Command[[note]]Gain perfect accuracy for one turn[[/note]]. Cue Big Gold being taken down with about four strong attacks, whereas other bosses take twice as much.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: At the end of the penultimate, the BigBad tries to wipe LOTUS out by shooting them with a {{BFG}} from the moon. How do our heroes survive? [[spoiler:By having the Rushbird absorb all the energy and transfer it to the Straybird, who uses it to create an Imaginary Road large enough to teleport ''everyone'' directly to the moon]].

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* AnticlimaxBoss: While [[Anime/{{Iczer}} Big Gold]] is a FragileSpeedster, unlike some {{Mook}}s, the party has exceptionally easy means to bypass her high evasion stats (such as the "Strike" Spirit Command[[note]]Gain perfect 100% accuracy for one turn[[/note]].turn[[/note]]). Cue Big Gold being taken down with about four strong attacks, whereas other bosses take twice as much.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: At the end of the penultimate, the BigBad tries to wipe LOTUS out by shooting them with a {{BFG}} from the moon. How do our heroes survive? [[spoiler:By having the Rushbird absorb all the energy and transfer it to the Straybird, who uses it to create an Imaginary Road "Imaginary Road" large enough to teleport ''everyone'' directly to the moon]].



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lets put it this way - if any flaws of ''L'' is mentioned, it's likely the fact that [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsL Yuunagi Graife]] is more interesting than Ichitaka, and should've been the protagonist of the game.
* FanNickname: "SRW Lazy", a derogatory moniker used after the game's announcement due to the number of rehashed series from previous NintendoDS [=SRWs=] and several "filler" series. Of course, this is before players discover returning series receive retweaked and/or brand new animations to match their return.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lets Let's put it this way - if any flaws of ''L'' is mentioned, it's likely the fact that [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsL Yuunagi Graife]] is more interesting than Ichitaka, and should've been the protagonist of the game.
game, or at the very least, a selectable protagonist.
* FanNickname: "SRW Lazy", a derogatory moniker used after the game's announcement due to the number of rehashed series from previous NintendoDS UsefulNotes/NintendoDS [=SRWs=] and several "filler" "{{Filler}}" series. Of course, this is before players discover returning series receive retweaked tweaked and/or brand new animations to match their return.



* NeverLiveItDown: Averted; it seems the developers, at least, finally forgave [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria Hawke]] for missing that shuttle for the umpteenth time in crossovers. Her base accuracy is on par with most of the other ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' characters and her "Strike" Spirit Command doesn't cost more than usual and is unlocked early.
* [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescued From The]] ScrappyMechanic [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Heap]]: The "Partner Battle" system is rebalanced and retooled than its use from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', offering the ability to switch partners on the battlefield and extra options for defensive and offensive actions, while removing increased Will gains and reducing the ability to destroy everything via the "Combo Attack" pilot skill for solo units.
* ScrappyMechanic: The series staple of equippable parts to further tune units is removed in favor of bonuses from the "Partner Battle" system, forcing players to use the system. Even though the majority hated the system in ''K'', despite it being fixed in ''L'', some players still wanted equippable parts.
** The system also makes it a nuisance, in that players are required to set up partner units to see allied units on the deployment list before the start of a scenario, even if the player is planning on sending some out as solo units. Further complications arise if players forget what their previous match-ups with allied units were, especially when new units enter the party or route splits occur.
** Moreover, if a unit is story-mandatory for a mission, it can no longer be deployed with a partner and has to be re-assigned to a squad to be used in the next one, as if freshly recruited. You HAVE to check the squad setup screen after every single level because of that.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Averted; it seems the developers, at least, finally forgave [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria Hawke]] for missing that shuttle for the umpteenth time in crossovers.{{Massive Multiplayer Crossover}}s. Her base accuracy is on par with most of the other ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' characters and her "Strike" Spirit Command doesn't cost more than usual and is unlocked early.
* [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescued From The]] ScrappyMechanic [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Heap]]: The "Partner Battle" system is rebalanced re-balanced and retooled re-tooled than its use from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', offering the ability to switch partners on the battlefield and extra options for defensive and offensive actions, while removing increased Will gains and reducing the ability to destroy everything via the "Combo Attack" pilot skill for solo units.
* ScrappyMechanic: The series staple of equippable parts to further tune units is removed in favor of bonuses from the "Partner Battle" system, forcing players to use the system. Even though the majority hated the system in ''K'', despite it being fixed in ''L'', some players still wanted equippable parts.
** The system also makes it a nuisance, nuisance in that players are required to set up partner units to see allied units on the deployment list before the start of a scenario, even if the player is planning on sending some out as solo units. Further complications arise if players forget what their previous match-ups with allied units were, especially when new units enter the party or route splits occur.
** Moreover, if a unit is story-mandatory for a mission, scenario, it can no longer be deployed with a partner and has to be re-assigned to a squad partner to be used in the next one, scenario, as if freshly recruited. You Players HAVE to check the squad partner setup screen after every single level scenario because of that.



* ThatOneLevel: Scenario 30 of the Space Route, where the player must [[spoiler:survive 9 turns against never-ending waves of [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Vajra]] ensuring no Vajra unit reaches the building where [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is in]]. Here's hoping the player has enough patience and/or tolerenance for this scenario, especially if they didn't upgrade particular units with them. Even with [[spoiler:[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]]]] flying off to one corner of the map and parking there to fight the {{Mook}}s singlehandedly, it's still going to be a nightmare getting through this scenario due to the area the player must protect against the [[spoiler:Vajra]] from.
** Scenario 35. First there's [[ThatOneBoss That One]] DuelBoss fight between Iczer-1 and Iczer-2 as the rest of your forces fight wave after wave of respawning mooks, then Big Gold and Moon Will pop up, both with question-marked (i.e. [[UpToEleven six-figure]] hit points) and a bunch of tough mooks, THEN you also get four copies of Neos Gold as backup. If this is your first playthrough and you didn't cherry-pick your strongest min-maxed units, prepare for a MarathonLevel with three MarathonBoss fights in it which will need several hours to beat. Bring long-range shooters!
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: It's disappointing to see how ''L'' treats the debut of ''Rebuild of Evangelion. The only playable characters from this series are the classic trio of [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Shinji Ikari, Rei Ayanami and Asuka Langley Shikinami]], with only four [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Angels]] fought, meaning nothing that wasn't in [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the TV series]] already, [[spoiler:with the obvious exception of the seventh Angel]]. A case of IKnewIt for the skeptics, but it's worse as [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Mari Illustrious Makinami]] doesn't get anything more than a cameo.

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* ThatOneLevel: Scenario 30 of the Space Route, where the player must [[spoiler:survive 9 turns against never-ending waves of [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Vajra]] while ensuring no Vajra unit reaches the building where [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is in]]. Here's hoping the player has enough patience and/or tolerenance tolerance for this scenario, especially if they didn't upgrade particular units with them. Even with [[spoiler:[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]]]] flying off to one corner of the map and parking there to fight the {{Mook}}s singlehandedly, by himself, it's still going to be a nightmare getting through this scenario due to the large area the player must protect against the [[spoiler:Vajra]] from.
** Scenario 35. First there's 35 features [[ThatOneBoss That One]] DuelBoss fight between [[Anime/{{Iczer}} Iczer-1 and Iczer-2 Iczer-2]] as the rest of your forces the party fight wave after wave of respawning mooks, {{Mook}}s, then Big Gold and [[Anime/DancougarNova Moon Will pop up, Will]] arrive, both with question-marked (i.e. {{Hit Point}}s (actually [[UpToEleven six-figure]] hit points) six-figures]]) and a bunch of tough mooks, THEN you also get reinforcements, with four copies of [[Anime/{{Iczer}} Neos Gold Gold]] as backup. If this is your players' first playthrough and you they didn't cherry-pick your the strongest min-maxed units nor brought along long-ranged units, prepare for a MarathonLevel with three MarathonBoss fights in it which will need it, taking roughly several hours to beat. Bring long-range shooters!
beat.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: It's disappointing to see how ''L'' treats the debut of ''Rebuild of Evangelion. Evangelion''. The only playable characters from this series are the classic trio of [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Shinji Ikari, Rei Ayanami and Asuka Langley Shikinami]], with only four [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Angels]] fought, meaning nothing that wasn't in [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the TV television series]] already, [[spoiler:with the obvious exception of the seventh Angel]]. A case of IKnewIt for the skeptics, but it's worse as [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Mari Illustrious Makinami]] doesn't get anything more than a cameo.
28th Jan '16 10:08:49 AM Willbyr
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: New remixes of "[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Last Impression]]" and "[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Triangular]]" are just some of the examples. The in-game rendition of "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Kitei no Tsurugi]]" is generally said to be much better than the actual song, although "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Proud]]" takes this up a notch; it's rendition in ''L'' doesn't disappoint.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: New remixes of "[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Last Impression]]" and "[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Triangular]]" are just some of the examples. The in-game rendition of "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel "[[Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron Kitei no Tsurugi]]" is generally said to be much better than the actual song, although "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel "[[Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron Proud]]" takes this up a notch; it's rendition in ''L'' doesn't disappoint.
19th Dec '15 8:04:31 PM nombretomado
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** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[Anime/MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.

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** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[Anime/MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.
7th Nov '15 4:33:15 PM nombretomado
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[RebuildOfEvangelion Misato Katsuragi's car]], of all things, gets a map sprite cameo in the first ''RebuildOfEvangelion'' scenario.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Misato Katsuragi's car]], of all things, gets a map sprite cameo in the first ''RebuildOfEvangelion'' ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' scenario.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: It's disappointing to see how ''L'' treats the debut of ''Rebuild of Evangelion. The only playable characters from this series are the classic trio of [[RebuildOfEvangelion Shinji Ikari, Rei Ayanami and Asuka Langley Shikinami]], with only four [[RebuildOfEvangelion Angels]] fought, meaning nothing that wasn't in [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the TV series]] already, [[spoiler:with the obvious exception of the seventh Angel]]. A case of IKnewIt for the skeptics, but it's worse as [[RebuildOfEvangelion Mari Illustrious Makinami]] doesn't get anything more than a cameo.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: It's disappointing to see how ''L'' treats the debut of ''Rebuild of Evangelion. The only playable characters from this series are the classic trio of [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Shinji Ikari, Rei Ayanami and Asuka Langley Shikinami]], with only four [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Angels]] fought, meaning nothing that wasn't in [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the TV series]] already, [[spoiler:with the obvious exception of the seventh Angel]]. A case of IKnewIt for the skeptics, but it's worse as [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Mari Illustrious Makinami]] doesn't get anything more than a cameo.
19th Sep '15 3:33:32 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[Anime/MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.

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** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[Anime/MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.



* [[RescuedFromtheScrappyHeap Rescued From The]] ScrappyMechanic [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Heap]]: The "Partner Battle" system is rebalanced and retooled than its use from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', offering the ability to switch partners on the battlefield and extra options for defensive and offensive actions, while removing increased Will gains and reducing the ability to destroy everything via the "Combo Attack" pilot skill for solo units.

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* [[RescuedFromtheScrappyHeap [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescued From The]] ScrappyMechanic [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Heap]]: The "Partner Battle" system is rebalanced and retooled than its use from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', offering the ability to switch partners on the battlefield and extra options for defensive and offensive actions, while removing increased Will gains and reducing the ability to destroy everything via the "Combo Attack" pilot skill for solo units.
28th Aug '15 1:11:15 AM Noelemahc
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** Scenario 35. First there's [[ThatOneBoss That One]] DuelBoss fight between Iczer-1 and Iczer-2 as the rest of your forces fight wave after wave of respawning mooks, then Big Gold and Moon Will pop up, both with question-marked (i.e. [[UpToEleven six-figure]] hit points) and a bunch of tough mooks, THEN you also get four copies of Neos Gold as backup. If this is your first playthrough and you didn't cherry-pick your strongest min-maxed units, prepare for a MarathonLevel with three MarathonBoss fights in it which will need several hours to beat. Bring long-range shooters!
22nd Aug '15 6:26:12 PM nombretomado
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** [[Anime/MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.

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** [[Anime/MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny "[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.
17th Aug '15 5:55:02 AM Noelemahc
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** Moreover, if a unit is story-mandatory for a mission, it can no longer be deployed with a partner and has to be re-assigned to a squad to be used in the next one, as if freshly recruited. You HAVE to check the squad setup screen after every single level because of that.
20th Jul '15 9:51:00 AM nombretomado
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** [[Anime/MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.

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** [[Anime/MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[{{Mazinkaiser}} [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.
10th Jul '15 4:51:00 PM nombretomado
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** [[spoiler:The final ''MacrossFrontier'' scenario, with the background music shuffling every turn, ending with a long CombinationAttack]].

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** [[spoiler:The final ''MacrossFrontier'' ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' scenario, with the background music shuffling every turn, ending with a long CombinationAttack]].



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: New remixes of "[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Last Impression]]" and "[[MacrossFrontier Triangular]]" are just some of the examples. The in-game rendition of "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Kitei no Tsurugi]]" is generally said to be much better than the actual song, although "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Proud]]" takes this up a notch; it's rendition in ''L'' doesn't disappoint.
** [[MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: New remixes of "[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Last Impression]]" and "[[MacrossFrontier "[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Triangular]]" are just some of the examples. The in-game rendition of "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Kitei no Tsurugi]]" is generally said to be much better than the actual song, although "[[KuroganeNoLinebarrel Proud]]" takes this up a notch; it's rendition in ''L'' doesn't disappoint.
** [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier "Aimo", "Lion", and "Northern Cross"]], "[[Anime/DancougarNova Tori No Uta]]", remade versions of [[{{Mazinkaiser}} "Fire Wars", "Mazin Kenzan"]] and "[[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Ignited]]"; it's safe to say there's a ton of great music in ''L'', so much that some fans complained about the quality of the same tracks heard in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Second Super Robot Wars Z]]'' duology and compare it to this game's version.



** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.

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** "SRW Lesbians", due to [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier the]] [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} various]] [[Anime/DancougarNova shows]] [[{{Godannar}} featuring]] [[Anime/{{Iczer}} them]] in ''L''.



* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Gilbert Durandal]], [[MacrossFrontier Grace O'Connor]] and Proist]]

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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Gilbert Durandal]], [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Grace O'Connor]] and Proist]]



* ThatOneLevel: Scenario 30 of the Space Route, where the player must [[spoiler:survive 9 turns against never-ending waves of [[MacrossFrontier Vajra]] ensuring no Vajra unit reaches the building where [[MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is in]]. Here's hoping the player has enough patience and/or tolerenance for this scenario, especially if they didn't upgrade particular units with them. Even with [[spoiler:[[MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]]]] flying off to one corner of the map and parking there to fight the {{Mook}}s singlehandedly, it's still going to be a nightmare getting through this scenario due to the area the player must protect against the [[spoiler:Vajra]] from.

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* ThatOneLevel: Scenario 30 of the Space Route, where the player must [[spoiler:survive 9 turns against never-ending waves of [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Vajra]] ensuring no Vajra unit reaches the building where [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is in]]. Here's hoping the player has enough patience and/or tolerenance for this scenario, especially if they didn't upgrade particular units with them. Even with [[spoiler:[[MacrossFrontier [[spoiler:[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]]]] flying off to one corner of the map and parking there to fight the {{Mook}}s singlehandedly, it's still going to be a nightmare getting through this scenario due to the area the player must protect against the [[spoiler:Vajra]] from.
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