History YMMV / SuperMarioSunshine

8th Jun '16 8:26:20 AM rjd1922
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* FanficFuel: [[spoiler: Il Piantissimo finding Bowser Jr.'s paintbrush]] at the very end of the game could lead to some very interesting ideas for a sequel...

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* FanficFuel: [[spoiler: Il [[spoiler:Il Piantissimo finding Bowser Jr.'s paintbrush]] at the very end of the game could lead to some very interesting ideas for a sequel...sequel...
* {{Fanon}}: Mainly because they're the same colors, it's widely speculated that the five toads in this game are the Toad Brigade from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', but nothing is confirmed.



* FranchiseOriginalSin: This was the first 3D Mario Platformer to have Mario die if you fail a minigame. This would be carried over into [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy later]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 games]], except this time he can be in the air and fail a game. This was reversed in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', as running out of time in a Mystery House challenge simply resets the event chain.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: This was the first 3D Mario ''Mario'' Platformer to have Mario die if you fail a minigame. This would be carried over into [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy later]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 games]], except this time he can be in the air and fail a game. This was reversed in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', as running out of time in a Mystery House challenge simply resets the event chain.
22nd May '16 4:14:15 PM MyFinalEdits
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Because of how exaggerated the KangarooCourt is at the beginning of the game, some believe the Piantas just saw Mario as the solution to their problems and slapped him with the court sentence to make sure he'd stay to fix them. There's also a group of Piantas in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'' that are clearly running a crime syndicate, which does little to dissuade such interpretation.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Because of how exaggerated the KangarooCourt is at the beginning of the game, some believe the Piantas just saw Mario as the solution to their problems and slapped him with the court sentence to make sure he'd stay to fix them. There's also a group of Piantas in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'' that are clearly running a crime syndicate, which does little to dissuade such interpretation.
** The Piantas and Nokis are not hoarding Shine Sprites; rather, the Shine Sprites are simply hiding nearby and are only willing to reveal themselves to Mario when he performs a good deed for them or satisfies their challenges because the Shine Sprites need to determine that Mario is trustworthy.



** The Piantas and Nokis are not hoarding Shine Sprites; rather, the Shine Sprites are simply hiding nearby and are only willing to reveal themselves to Mario when he performs a good deed for them or satisfies their challenges because the Shine Sprites need to determine that Mario is trustworthy.
22nd May '16 9:27:51 AM Chaosenvoy
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** The Piantas and Nokis are not hoarding Shine Sprites; rather, the Shine Sprites are simply hiding nearby and are only willing to reveal themselves to Mario when he performs a good deed for them or satisfies their challenges because the Shine Sprites need to determine that Mario is trustworthy.
18th May '16 12:44:30 PM bassforte123
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* IdiotPlot: Bowser and son's plot to frame Mario would work only if the Piantas were stupid enough to confuse an obviously blue Shadow Mario with the real deal. Unfortunately for Mario, they are.

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* IdiotPlot: Bowser and son's plot to frame Mario would work only if the Piantas were stupid enough to confuse an obviously blue Shadow Mario with the real deal.deal and ignore that Mario has an air tight alibi of being in an airplane with multiple witnesses, one being royalty. Unfortunately for Mario, they are. Even when they can see the real Mario chasing a Shadow Mario actively spreading graffiti right past them.
15th May '16 7:35:55 PM rjd1922
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** The Manta Storm boss, made up of a hundred smaller rays. In 2014, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74mdJUaRNaA an enormous flock of mobular rays appeared off the coast of Baja]].

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** The Manta Storm boss, Phantamanta, the manta ray boss made up of a hundred smaller rays. In 2014, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74mdJUaRNaA an enormous flock of mobular rays appeared off the coast of Baja]].
6th Apr '16 6:15:00 PM Wingnut
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* FanficFuel: [[spoiler: Il Piantissimo finding Bowser Jr.'s paintbrush]] at the very end of the game could lead to some very interesting ideas for a sequel...
28th Mar '16 2:53:18 PM Wingnut
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The flood radically alters the layout of the hub town by putting 3/4ths of it underwater. Swimming around town is pretty neat... until you realize that you can't really do anything new with this change, and there are no significant secrets to be found. Plus, the flood inexplicably goes away on its own while you're in the final level.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The flood radically alters the layout of the hub town by putting 3/4ths of it underwater. Swimming around town is pretty neat... until you realize that you can't really do anything new with this change, and there are no significant secrets to be found. Plus, the flood inexplicably goes away on its own while you're in the final level.level, or if you manage to collect one of Delfino Plaza's Shine Sprites.
5th Mar '16 7:00:17 PM Wingnut
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Poor Peach. When first we see her in the game's opening, she is the first to notice Shadow Mario running amok in Isle Delfino--twice! Once in a plane advertisement, and again at Delfino Airstrip. Because of this, she and the Toads are the only people to know for a fact that Mario is innocent. But the Piantas don't see it that way, and immediately overrule her when she tries to object on her hero's behalf. You guys know she's royalty, right? To make matters worse, just when it feels like we're going to have a grand Mario adventure WITHOUT her getting kidnapped, the first thing Shadow Mario does when he finally reveals himself is kidnap her. As a final kick in the teeth, once rescued, Peach will hang around Isle Delfino and you can even talk to her, once again making you think they're giving her a break. But no. Once you get enough Shine Sprites, she is held captive for the rest of the game, even when you start the game again after defeating Bowser for the final time. So much for a HeroOfAnotherStory.
16th Feb '16 6:25:38 PM Minishear
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** Pachinko Game. You are in a pinball machine-like stage, where you need to maneuver Mario to collect eight Red Coins. The difficulty comes from one single thing: the "launcher" that propels Mario into the machine makes him go so fast, it's insanely hard to get him to land where you want to. He even goes too fast for you to use FLUDD to correct any mistakes unless you somehow touch one of the openings of the machine and don't get knocked down to your doom. Even if you collect all coins, you still need to get back into the machine to actually get the Shine.

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** Pachinko Game. You are in a pinball machine-like stage, where you need to maneuver Mario to collect eight Red Coins. The difficulty comes from one single thing: the "launcher" that propels Mario into the machine makes him go so fast, it's insanely hard to get him to land where you want to. He even goes too fast for you to use FLUDD to correct any mistakes unless you somehow touch one of the openings of the machine and don't get knocked down to your doom. Even if you collect all coins, you still need to get back into the machine to actually get the Shine. What also doesn't help is that if you skip the launcher by wall kicking up and out, you get flung to the right anyway for some undefined reason.
6th Feb '16 4:35:54 PM MyFinalEdits
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Because of how exaggerated the KangarooCourt is at the beginning of the game, some believe the Piantas just saw Mario as the solution to their problems and slapped him with the court sentence to make sure he'd stay to fix them. There's also a group of Piantas in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'' that are clearly running a crime syndicate, which does little to dissuade such interpretation.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Because of how exaggerated the KangarooCourt is at the beginning of the game, some believe the Piantas just saw Mario as the solution to their problems and slapped him with the court sentence to make sure he'd stay to fix them. There's also a group of Piantas in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'' that are clearly running a crime syndicate, which does little to dissuade such interpretation.
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