History YMMV / SuperMarioSunshine

17th Feb '17 3:16:22 PM Sammettik
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* FanficFuel: [[spoiler:Il Piantissimo finding Bowser Jr.'s paintbrush]] at the very end of the game could lead to some very interesting ideas for a sequel...
3rd Feb '17 10:42:11 AM Wingnut
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[TheWoobie Poor Peach]]. When first we see her in the game's opening, she is the first to notice Shadow Mario running amok in Isle Delfino--twice! Once in a plane advertisement, and again at Delfino Airstrip. Because of this, she and the Toads are the only people to know for a fact that Mario is innocent. But the Piantas don't see it that way, and immediately overrule her when she tries to object on her hero's behalf. You guys know she's royalty, right? To make matters worse, just when it feels like we're going to have a grand Mario adventure WITHOUT her getting kidnapped, the first thing Shadow Mario does when he finally reveals himself is kidnap her. As a final kick in the teeth, once rescued, Peach will hang around Isle Delfino and you can even talk to her, once again making you think they're giving her a break. But no. Once you get enough Shine Sprites, she is held captive for the rest of the game, even when you start the game again after defeating Bowser for the final time. So much for a HeroOfAnotherStory.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[TheWoobie Poor Peach]]. When first we see her in the game's opening, she is She was the first to notice Shadow Mario running amok in Isle Delfino--twice! Once Delfino in a plane advertisement, and again at Delfino Airstrip. Because of this, she Airstrip, and the Toads are the only people to know knows for a fact that Mario is innocent. But the Piantas don't see it that way, and immediately overrule her when she tries to object on her hero's behalf. You guys know she's royalty, right? To make matters worse, just when it feels like we're going to have a grand Mario adventure WITHOUT her getting kidnapped, the first thing Shadow Mario does when he finally reveals himself is kidnap her. her, while she makes no effort to get away. As a final kick in the teeth, once rescued, Peach will hang around Isle Delfino and you can even talk to her, once again making you think they're giving her a break. But no. Once you get enough Shine Sprites, she is held captive for the rest of the game, even when you start the game again after defeating Bowser for the final time. So much for a HeroOfAnotherStory.
27th Jan '17 12:49:40 PM Wingnut
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* FridgeBrilliance: If you remember the true ending of ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'', which came before ''Sunshine'', Luigi managed to [[spoiler: make his haunted mansion not haunted. He apparently remains there for the events of this game]], which may explain why he was nowhere to be seen in ''Sunshine''.

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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
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If you remember the true ending of ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'', which came before ''Sunshine'', Luigi managed to [[spoiler: make his haunted mansion not haunted. He is apparently remains relaxing there for the events of this game]], which may explain why he was nowhere to be seen in ''Sunshine''.''Sunshine''.
** Having Pinna Park being "the villain's secret hideout" makes sense, since kids like Bowser Jr. love theme parks. On that note, this may be why Pinna Park one of the few parts of Isle Delfino that Bowser Jr. didn't pollute with goop--he doesn't want his "spectacular amusement park" to get dirty.
15th Jan '17 8:24:24 AM bowserbros
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** The game's Spaceworld 2001 trailer featured a blink-and-you'll-miss-it glimpse of a realistic human girl in Delfino Plaza; come the final game, however, the only residents of Isle Delfino are the cartoony Piantas & Nokis. [[VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey A decade and a half later,]] the idea of realistic humans in a ''Mario'' game is finally a reality!



** "I'M A CHUCKSTER!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Said by the Chucking Piantas in the [[NintendoHard infamously difficult]] [[ThatOneLevel Pianta Village secret level]].[[/labelnote]]

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** "I'M A CHUCKSTER!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Said by the Chucking Piantas in the [[NintendoHard infamously difficult]] [[ThatOneLevel Pianta Village secret level]]. Mainly popularized by LetsPlay/{{Chuggaaconroy}}'s Goofy-esque reading of them in his ''Sunshine'' LP.[[/labelnote]]
1st Jan '17 12:12:45 AM Sammettik
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** The way you kill the Bloopers in Ricco Harbor is by ripping off their tentacles. Which then proceed to twitch violently after they're pulled off. Gooper Blooper's boss battle allows you to rip off all four of his tentacles and then yank on his cork-plugged mouth.

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** The way you kill the Bloopers in Ricco Harbor is by ripping off their tentacles. Which then proceed to twitch violently after they're pulled off. Gooper Blooper's boss battle allows you to rip off all four of his tentacles tentacles, Which then proceed to twitch violently after they're pulled off, and then yank on his cork-plugged mouth.
30th Dec '16 12:06:10 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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* BrokenBase: The game's commercial definitely split the fanbase. Is it a fun ad or is it just cheesy? It's meant to be a parody of [=PSAs=] with upbeat and catchy songs, but people felt it was just dumb. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPteMFkI2k View it and judge for yourself.]]
15th Dec '16 3:21:38 PM Twentington
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The Delfino Plaza theme sounds a lot like the jingle heard in Motel 6 radio commercials.
2nd Nov '16 1:56:43 PM MarioAndSpongeBobFan
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* CaptainObviousAesop: There's two "no der" moments that occurs in the game by FLUDD. In one level, after you clean an eel of its bacteria-ridden teeth, FLUDD tells the player to always take care of their teeth. In another level, after you get the baby Chain Chomps into a pool of water so they can cool off, FLUDD informs you to always be kind to your pets.

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* CaptainObviousAesop: There's two "no der" "duh" moments that occurs in the game by FLUDD. In one level, after you clean an eel of its bacteria-ridden teeth, FLUDD tells the player to always take care of their teeth. In another level, after you get the baby Chain Chomps into a pool of water so they can cool off, FLUDD informs you to always be kind to your pets.



* {{Fanon}}: Mainly because they're the same colors, it's widely believed that the five Toads in this game are the Toad Brigade from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', but it's never been confirmed.

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* {{Fanon}}: Mainly because they're the same colors, it's widely believed that the five Toads in this game are the Toad Brigade from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' (with the Blue and Yellow ones in particular being the same as in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' and ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU'', but it's never been confirmed.



** Bowser's voice acting and dialogue make him seem less like a giant scary Koopa and more like either a goofy sitcom dad or [[Series/SesameStreet the Cookie Monster]]. In fact, ''most'' of the voice acting is really lousy. And Bowser would remain that way until Galaxy.

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** Bowser's voice acting and dialogue make him seem less like a giant scary Koopa and more like either a goofy sitcom dad [[Series/TheSimpsons Homer Simpson]] or [[Series/SesameStreet the Cookie Monster]]. In fact, ''most'' of the voice acting is really lousy. And Bowser would remain that way until Galaxy.



** Petey Pirahna barfing up goop (like the other goop-Pirahnas). Which looks just like barf too.

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** Petey Pirahna barfing up goop (like the other goop-Pirahnas). Which goop-Pirahnas) which looks just like barf too.



** "The Goopy Inferno". You have no access to FLUDD until the end of the level, and the entire town is covered in flaming goop. One touch of the stuff and it's almost a nerve-wrecked mess for you.
** In "The Watermelon Festival" in Gelato Beach, you have to guide a gigantic watermelon down a cliff and along a beach past a horde of Cataquacks, who, if they get anywhere close, will knock the watermelon into the air, popping it. Oh, and the controls for guiding said watermelon are hellishly awkward, ''and'' the melon itself is ridiculously fragile, causing you more often than not to make it go sideways or accidentally pop it while trying to push it. You can squirt the Cataquacks with FLUDD to stun them, but the area is so swarmed with them that for every one you can fend off, there are always two or three more coming at you from the other side. You can kill the Cataquacks beforehand with the Dune Buds or luring them into the ocean, though, making this a little easier.

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** "The Goopy Inferno". You have no access to FLUDD until the end of the level, and the entire town is covered in flaming goop. One touch of the stuff and it's almost a nerve-wrecked mess for you.
you. [[SequenceBreaking Although you could just climb to the top of the tree in the western part of the level and jump down to where FLUDD's platform is located]].
** In "The Watermelon Festival" in Gelato Beach, you have to guide a gigantic watermelon down a cliff and along a beach past a horde of Cataquacks, who, if they get anywhere close, will knock the watermelon into the air, popping it. Oh, and the controls for guiding said watermelon are hellishly awkward, ''and'' the melon itself is ridiculously fragile, causing you more often than not to make it go sideways or accidentally pop it while trying to push it. You can squirt the Cataquacks with FLUDD to stun them, but the area is so swarmed with them that for every one you can fend off, there are always two or three more coming at you from the other side. You can kill the Cataquacks beforehand with the Dune Buds or luring them into the ocean, though, making this a little easier.easier, but this takes a long time.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Poor Peach. When first we see her in the game's opening, she is the first to notice Shadow Mario running amok in Isle Delfino--twice! Once in a plane advertisement, and again at Delfino Airstrip. Because of this, she and the Toads are the only people to know for a fact that Mario is innocent. But the Piantas don't see it that way, and immediately overrule her when she tries to object on her hero's behalf. You guys know she's royalty, right? To make matters worse, just when it feels like we're going to have a grand Mario adventure WITHOUT her getting kidnapped, the first thing Shadow Mario does when he finally reveals himself is kidnap her. As a final kick in the teeth, once rescued, Peach will hang around Isle Delfino and you can even talk to her, once again making you think they're giving her a break. But no. Once you get enough Shine Sprites, she is held captive for the rest of the game, even when you start the game again after defeating Bowser for the final time. So much for a HeroOfAnotherStory.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[TheWoobie Poor Peach.Peach]]. When first we see her in the game's opening, she is the first to notice Shadow Mario running amok in Isle Delfino--twice! Once in a plane advertisement, and again at Delfino Airstrip. Because of this, she and the Toads are the only people to know for a fact that Mario is innocent. But the Piantas don't see it that way, and immediately overrule her when she tries to object on her hero's behalf. You guys know she's royalty, right? To make matters worse, just when it feels like we're going to have a grand Mario adventure WITHOUT her getting kidnapped, the first thing Shadow Mario does when he finally reveals himself is kidnap her. As a final kick in the teeth, once rescued, Peach will hang around Isle Delfino and you can even talk to her, once again making you think they're giving her a break. But no. Once you get enough Shine Sprites, she is held captive for the rest of the game, even when you start the game again after defeating Bowser for the final time. So much for a HeroOfAnotherStory.
27th Sep '16 7:47:18 PM MyFinalEdits
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** '''Blue Coins'''. In 64 they were worth five regular Yellow Coins each, and always a delight to players, as they meant [[AntiFrustrationFeatures less grinding for that tiresome "100-coin total"]], which is necessary for a star. In Sunshine however, they are a separate ''currency''. Raccoons in this world are hoarding Shine Sprites [[MoneyDearBoy and will only forfeit the life-source of Delfino Isle over]] for a whopping ''240'' of them. [[GuideDangIt Their locations are downright cryptic]] and every time you grab one, it interrupts play, prompting you to save.

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** '''Blue Coins'''. In 64 they were worth five regular Yellow Coins each, and always a delight to players, as they meant [[AntiFrustrationFeatures less grinding for that tiresome "100-coin total"]], which is necessary for a star. In Sunshine ''Sunshine'' however, they are a separate ''currency''. Raccoons in this world are hoarding Shine Sprites [[MoneyDearBoy and will only forfeit the life-source of Delfino Isle over]] for a whopping ''240'' of them. [[GuideDangIt Their locations are downright cryptic]] and every time you grab one, it interrupts play, prompting you to save.
27th Sep '16 7:45:06 PM MyFinalEdits
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** The decision to take the game to an ''entirely tropical themed'' hub-world and levels was not well-received. Mario games are an outstanding example in the industry [[VideogameSettings of a wide variety of different environments and themes]]. Sunshine doesn't offer any location diversity, and eventually the hot humid island setting, starts to feel ''monotonous''.

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** The decision to take the game to an ''entirely tropical themed'' hub-world and levels was not well-received. Mario games are an outstanding example in well-received, especially among those who have praised the industry [[VideogameSettings of a wide variety of different environments and themes]]. Sunshine doesn't offer any location diversity, themes]] in the series, and eventually thus feel that the hot humid island setting, setting starts to feel ''monotonous''.
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