History YMMV / SuperDanganRonpa2

24th Jun '16 12:49:31 AM MelancholyUtopia
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* MagnificentBastard: Whatever you think of [[BaseBreaker Nagito]], it's hard to deny that his plan during chapter 5 was really clever, and only gets revealed in its full form in the last chapter. Essentially, in chapter 4, he found out that everyone, including himself, are part of the Ultimate Despair, and Chiaki being the traitor and an NPC, changing his view of them all. That's why he plots a suicude that was meant to be difficult to solve...no, scratch that, a ''supposed'' suicude with many [[RedHerring Red Herrings]] with the real cause of death being poison inside a fire grenade, unknowingly thrown by the other survivors (to put out a fire that erupted at the time) in order to confuse them on who actually killed him. Nagito, being Nagito, relied on his Ultimate Luck talent and hoped for the traitor to throw the correct bottle, aka Chiaki. Then it's revealed in the last chapter he wasn't trying to kill Chiaki, but everyone ''besides'' Chiaki, whom wasn't real and was part of the virtual game. He intentionally confused everyone so they could vote for the wrong person and get them all killed...because of them being Ultimate Despair. It's up to debate whether he went through with this plan for the greater good, to spite Junko even in death, or for his own warped sense of the word "hope", but one thing is certain; his plan went off without a hitch and he succeeded in outsmarting everyone even in death.

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* MagnificentBastard: Whatever you think of [[BaseBreaker Nagito]], it's hard to deny that his plan during chapter 5 was really clever, and only gets revealed in its full form in the last chapter. Essentially, in chapter 4, he found out that everyone, including himself, are part of the Ultimate Despair, and Chiaki being the traitor and an NPC, changing his view of them all. That's why he plots a suicude that was meant to be difficult to solve...no, scratch that, a ''supposed'' suicude with many [[RedHerring Red Herrings]] with the real cause of death being poison inside a fire grenade, unknowingly thrown by the other survivors (to put out a fire that erupted at the time) in order to confuse them on who actually killed him. Nagito, being Nagito, relied on his Ultimate Luck talent and hoped for the traitor to throw the correct bottle, aka Chiaki. Then it's revealed in the last chapter he wasn't trying to kill Chiaki, but everyone ''besides'' Chiaki, whom wasn't real and was part of the virtual game. He intentionally confused everyone so they could vote for the wrong person and get them all killed...because of them being Ultimate Despair. It's up to debate whether he went through with this plan for the greater good, to spite Junko even in death, or for his own warped sense of the word "hope", but one thing is certain; his plan went off almost without a hitch and he succeeded in outsmarting everyone even in death.
24th Jun '16 12:49:00 AM MelancholyUtopia
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* MagnificentBastard: Whatever you think of [[BaseBreaker Nagito]], it's hard to deny that his plan during chapter 5 was really clever, and only gets revealed in its full form in the last chapter. Essentially, in chapter 4, he found out that everyone, including himself, are part of the Ultimate Despair, and Chiaki being the traitor and an NPC, changing his view of them all. That's why he plots a suicude that was meant to be difficult to solve...no, scratch that, a ''supposed'' suicude with many [[RedHerring Red Herrings]] with the real cause of death being poison inside a fire grenade, unknowingly thrown by the other survivors in order to confuse them on who actually killed him. Nagito, being Nagito, relied on his Ultimate Luck talent and hoped for the traitor to throw the correct bottle, aka Chiaki. Then it's revealed in the last chapter he wasn't trying to kill Chiaki, but everyone ''besides'' Chiaki, whom wasn't real and was part of the virtual game. He intentionally confused everyone so they could vote for the wrong person and get them all killed...because of them being Ultimate Despair. It's up to debated whether he went through with this plan for the greater good, to spite Junko even in death, or for his own warped sense of the word "hope", but one thing is certain; his plan went off without a hitch and he succeeded in outsmarting everyone even in death.

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* MagnificentBastard: Whatever you think of [[BaseBreaker Nagito]], it's hard to deny that his plan during chapter 5 was really clever, and only gets revealed in its full form in the last chapter. Essentially, in chapter 4, he found out that everyone, including himself, are part of the Ultimate Despair, and Chiaki being the traitor and an NPC, changing his view of them all. That's why he plots a suicude that was meant to be difficult to solve...no, scratch that, a ''supposed'' suicude with many [[RedHerring Red Herrings]] with the real cause of death being poison inside a fire grenade, unknowingly thrown by the other survivors (to put out a fire that erupted at the time) in order to confuse them on who actually killed him. Nagito, being Nagito, relied on his Ultimate Luck talent and hoped for the traitor to throw the correct bottle, aka Chiaki. Then it's revealed in the last chapter he wasn't trying to kill Chiaki, but everyone ''besides'' Chiaki, whom wasn't real and was part of the virtual game. He intentionally confused everyone so they could vote for the wrong person and get them all killed...because of them being Ultimate Despair. It's up to debated debate whether he went through with this plan for the greater good, to spite Junko even in death, or for his own warped sense of the word "hope", but one thing is certain; his plan went off without a hitch and he succeeded in outsmarting everyone even in death.
24th Jun '16 12:44:23 AM MelancholyUtopia
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* MagnificentBastard: Whatever you think of [[BaseBreaker Nagito]], it's hard to deny that his plan during chapter 5 was really clever, and only gets revealed in its full form in the last chapter. Essentially, in chapter 4, he found out that everyone, including himself, are part of the Ultimate Despair, and Chiaki being the traitor and an NPC, changing his view of them all. That's why he plots a suicude that was meant to be difficult to solve...no, scratch that, a ''supposed'' suicude with many [[RedHerring Red Herrings]] with the real cause of death being poison inside a fire grenade, unknowingly thrown by the other survivors in order to confuse them on who actually killed him. Nagito, being Nagito, relied on his Ultimate Luck talent and hoped for the traitor to throw the correct bottle, aka Chiaki. Then it's revealed in the last chapter he wasn't trying to kill Chiaki, but everyone ''besides'' Chiaki, whom wasn't real and was part of the virtual game. He intentionally confused everyone so they could vote for the wrong person and get them all killed...because of them being Ultimate Despair. It's up to debated whether he went through with this plan for the greater good, to spite Junko even in death, or for his own warped sense of the word "hope", but one thing is certain; his plan went off without a hitch and he succeeded in outsmarting everyone even in death.
10th Jun '16 1:35:13 AM Viira
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Chapter 4 would be this with the entire theme park. It has a lot of interesting attractions and a bunch of creative locations that would of been awesome to see a murder take place in. But instead, once you go into the Monokuma Express, your taken to the Funhouse. While the Funhouse did make for one of the most complex and tragic chapters in the series, the theme park could of achieved the same result if they expanded on it a bit more.
* TooCoolToLive: [[NiceGirl A friendly, kind,]] [[GeniusDitz smart,]] [[Main/{{Adorkable}} cute]] [[HiddenBuxom and busty]] GamerChick? Indeed, Chiaki Nanami was [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth just]] [[KilledOffForReal too]] [[HeroicSacrifice good]] [[ArtificialIntelligence to be real.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Chapter 4 would be this with has the entire theme park. It has a lot of interesting attractions and a bunch of creative locations that would of have been awesome to see a murder take place in. But instead, once you go into the Monokuma Express, your you're taken to the Funhouse. While the Funhouse did make for one of the most complex and tragic chapters in the series, the theme park could of could've achieved the same result if they expanded on it a bit more.
* TooCoolToLive: [[NiceGirl A friendly, kind,]] [[GeniusDitz smart,]] [[Main/{{Adorkable}} [{{Adorkable}} cute]] [[HiddenBuxom and busty]] GamerChick? Indeed, Chiaki Nanami was [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth just]] [[KilledOffForReal too]] [[HeroicSacrifice good]] [[ArtificialIntelligence to be real.]]
9th Jun '16 4:46:34 PM PsychicSlayerNatrium
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Chapter 4 would be this with the entire theme park. It has a lot of interesting attractions and a bunch of a creative locations that would of been awesome to see a murder take place in. But instead, once you go into the Monokuma Express, your taken to the Funhouse. While the Funhouse did make for one of the most complex and tragic chapters in the series, the theme park could of achieved the same result if they expanded on it.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Chapter 4 would be this with the entire theme park. It has a lot of interesting attractions and a bunch of a creative locations that would of been awesome to see a murder take place in. But instead, once you go into the Monokuma Express, your taken to the Funhouse. While the Funhouse did make for one of the most complex and tragic chapters in the series, the theme park could of achieved the same result if they expanded on it.it a bit more.
9th Jun '16 4:44:58 PM PsychicSlayerNatrium
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Chapter 4 would be this with the entire theme park. It has a lot of interesting attractions and a bunch of a creative locations that would of been awesome to see a murder take place in. But instead, once you go into the Monokuma Express, your taken to the Funhouse. While the Funhouse did make for one of the most complex and tragic chapters in the series, the theme park could of achieved the same result if they expanded on it.
8th Jun '16 9:29:15 AM Oecchi
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Like the original, every character is this to some circle and a BaseBreaker to others, but Fuyuhiko's sister (who is only ever mentioned, only actually being seen dead in a picture during chapter 2) has people who roleplay her as well as a decent amount of fanart. There is also the somewhat-popular {{fanon}} of her given name being Fuyuki (to match her brother).
** Of the main cast, Gundham and Ibuki are the most prominent darkhorses in the Japanese fandom, judging from how the amount of merchandise they get is on par with main characters of Hajime, Chiaki, and Nagito.
** On the American side, many absolutely love Chiaki to death, with Ibuki not falling so far behind. Sonia also has a decent following. And if trophy data is any indication, Gundham's the most liked out of the guys.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
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EnsembleDarkhorse: Like the original, every character is this to some circle and a BaseBreaker to others, but Fuyuhiko's sister (who is only ever mentioned, only actually being seen dead in a picture during chapter 2) has people who roleplay her as well as a decent amount of fanart. There is also the somewhat-popular {{fanon}} of her given name being Fuyuki (to match her brother).
** Of the main cast, Gundham and Ibuki are the most prominent darkhorses in the Japanese fandom, judging from how the amount of merchandise they get is on par with main characters of Hajime, Chiaki, and Nagito.
** On the American side, many absolutely love Chiaki to death, with Ibuki not falling so far behind. Sonia also has a decent following. And if trophy data is any indication, Gundham's the most liked out of the guys.
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28th May '16 4:42:30 AM Delta2501
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* GameBreaker: The Delusion skill, available to buy from the beginning of the game, causes your Influence (health) to regenerate when using focus mode during a trial. Since focus regenerates over time this effectively gives you infinite health and means you can make incorrect choices with impunity during Trials, though you can still run out of time.
12th Apr '16 7:35:51 PM polymath
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Specifically "Bullying is bad".

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Specifically Specifically, "Bullying is bad".bad."



* NeverLiveItDown: ''Oh boy''.

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* NeverLiveItDown: ''Oh ''Oh, boy''.



* ScrappyMechanic: Improved Hangman's Gambit might as well drop the 'improved' part for many people, mostly because not having the right letters appear fast enough will actively harm you as the screen floods with pieces crashing into one another. It's made even worse in the localization, which somehow chooses the longest possible words/phrases (up to ''eleven'' letters) where the Japanese version would only use words with an average of five characters.

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* ScrappyMechanic: Improved Hangman's Gambit might as well drop the 'improved' part for many people, mostly because not having the right letters appear fast enough will actively harm you as the screen floods with pieces crashing into one another. It's made even worse in the localization, which somehow chooses the longest possible words/phrases (up to ''eleven'' letters) where ''thirteen'' letters, with most Hangman's Gambits being multi-word phrases of around ten characters) whereas the Japanese version would only use words with an average of five characters.characters. The Hangman's Gambit was never a particularly well-loved mechanic, but the sheer length of most answers and the new rules allowing letters to crash ''off-screen'' (damaging your health) turned it from a short and relatively painless affair to a BaseBreaker mini-game that required perfect execution in order to Platnium the game.
** Logic Dive is also this trope. Functionally, there are plenty of players who think it was a good addition and that it eliminates some of the issues the first game had crafting Nonstop Debates. As with the "Improved" Hangman's Gambit, though, the problems are in the mini game's mechanics.
** Even the Panic Talk Action, formerly the Bullet Time Battle, isn't immune! Some players hate the new format, some are indifferent, and some prefer it. And then there's the change to the Final Strike....



* {{Squick}}: During the final trial, it is indicated that a member of Ultimate Despair (commonly assumed to be Mikan) transplanted Junko's womb into herself to have her children. Eugh. If anything, however, the localization makes this much worse, as the way it was translated implies [[ILoveTheDead that some members had sex with her corpse.]] In both cases it is even worse if you remember the end of the first game, Junko was ''crushed'' so in the first scenario the parts in question are ''dead and rotting mush'' more than actual organs and the latter... Yeah. Commence BrainBleach.

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* {{Squick}}: During the final trial, it is indicated that a member of Ultimate Despair (commonly assumed to be Mikan) transplanted Junko's womb into herself to have her children. Eugh. If anything, however, the localization makes this much worse, as the way it was translated implies [[ILoveTheDead that some members had sex with her corpse.]] In both cases it is even worse if you remember the end of the first game, Junko was ''crushed'' so in the first scenario the parts in question are ''dead and rotting mush'' more than actual organs and the latter... Yeah.yeah. Commence BrainBleach.


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** The Final Dead Room is essentially a ThatOneLevel within a ThatOneLevel (rather fitting, as Monokuma describes the Funhouse as a "closed circle within a closed circle").
* ThatOnePuzzle: Chapter Two's Class Trial has an infamous one: What was the murder weapon used to kill the first victim?[[note]]A swimsuit filled with gravel, which was used as a blunt object to strike the victim on the head.[[/note]] For some players, the Nonstop Debate on the topic is firmly this trope; for others... well, not so much. Bringing up the topic tends to lead to a heated disagreement between those who felt the question was poorly written (and the answer a stretch) and those who saw the solution immediately.
14th Mar '16 9:14:13 AM vidioogeims
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* TooCoolToLive: [[NiceGirl A friendly, kind,]] [[GeniusDitz smart,]] [[Main/{{Adorkable}} cute]] [[HiddenBuxom and busty]] GamerChick? Indeed, Chiaki Nanami was [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth just]] [[KilledOffForReal too]] [[HeroicSacrifice good]] [[ArtificialIntelligence to be real.]]
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