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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: George's Chromolumes make no sense to anybody except, maybe, to him.
** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
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* LyricalDissonance: "Sunday", an epic, bombastic, show-stopping orchestral number about... a bunch of people hanging around a small park relaxing "on an ordinary Sunday". Though it's played with, since the underlying theme of the song / show is that small, seemingly insignificant moments like this aren't necessary insignificant to those participating in them, and can lead to great things -- after all, none of these people are aware that they're being immortalised in what will become one of the greatest works of art of the century...
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Georges loses the love of his life, Dot, to his work; George, it appears, has suffered a failed marriage and is suffering a creative crisis.
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: The interaction between the younger George and the shade of Dot comes off as quite romantic, with lyrics like "We will always belong together," despite the fact that Dot is his great-grandmother and long dead.
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: PlatonicWritingRomanticReading: The interaction between the younger George and the shade of Dot comes off as quite romantic, with lyrics like "We will always belong together," despite the fact that Dot is his great-grandmother and long dead.
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* LyricalDissonance: "Sunday", an epic, bombastic, show-stopping orchestral number about... a bunch of people hanging around a park relaxing "on an ordinary Sunday". Though it's played with, since the underlying theme of the song / show is that small, seemingly insignificant moments like this aren't necessary insignificant to those participating in them, and can lead to great things -- after all, none of these people are aware that they're being immortalised in what will become one of the greatest works of art of the century...
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* LyricalDissonance: "Sunday", an epic, bombastic, show-stopping orchestral number about... a bunch of people hanging around a small park relaxing "on an ordinary Sunday". Though it's played with, since the underlying theme of the song / show is that small, seemingly insignificant moments like this aren't necessary insignificant to those participating in them, and can lead to great things -- after all, none of these people are aware that they're being immortalised in what will become one of the greatest works of art of the century...
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* LyricalDissonance: "Sunday", an epic, bombastic, show-stopping orchestral number about... a bunch of people hanging around a park relaxing "on an ordinary Sunday". Though it's played with, since the underlying theme of the song / show is that small, seemingly insignificant moments like this aren't necessary insignificant to those participating in them, and can lead to great things -- after all, none of these people are aware that they're being immortalised in what will become one of the greatest works of art of the century...
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* TrueArt
** TrueArtIsAngsty: Georges loses the love of his life, Dot, to his work; George, it appears, has suffered a failed marriage and is suffering a creative crisis.
** TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: George's Chromolumes make no sense to anybody except, maybe, to him.
*** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
** TrueArtIsAngsty: Georges loses the love of his life, Dot, to his work; George, it appears, has suffered a failed marriage and is suffering a creative crisis.
** TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: George's Chromolumes make no sense to anybody except, maybe, to him.
*** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
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* TrueArt
**TrueArtIsAngsty: Georges loses the love of his life, Dot, to his work; George, it appears, has suffered a failed marriage and is suffering a creative crisis.
** * TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: George's Chromolumes make no sense to anybody except, maybe, to him.
*** ** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.paintings.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The portrayal of the art world in the second act, and George's laser-themed artwork, date the show firmly in TheEighties.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The portrayal of the art world in the second act, and George's laser-themed artwork, date the show firmly in TheEighties.
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* SignatureSong: "Finishing The Hat", with "Move On" and "Putting It Together" following it.
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* SignatureSong: "Finishing The Hat", with "Move On" and On", "Putting It Together" Together", and "Sunday" following it.
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* JerkassWoobie: George. He's incapable of connecting to others which makes him come across as cold, unfeeling, and even cruel at times. Despite this it's clear George is unhappy in his isolation and actually does desire companionship and love, but he's too obsessed with his work to pursue it. And while his creative efforts immortalize him, he ultimately dies alone at the young age of 31.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite the first act’s supporting cast being fairly interesting characters with their own drama, they’re pushed to the side in the second half, with their arcs not getting any official closure. Granted this is clearly an artistic choice that ties into George’s inability to truly connect with and care about the people around him, but still, if you’re hoping to see how the things turn out for anyone other than George, Dot, and Marie, you’re gonna be dissapointed.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite the first act’s supporting cast being fairly interesting characters with their own drama, they’re pushed to the side in the second half, with their arcs not getting any official closure. Granted this is clearly an artistic choice that ties into George’s inability to truly connect with and care about the people around him, but still, if you’re hoping to see how the things turn out for anyone other than George, Dot, and Marie, you’re gonna be dissapointed. It's also arguably the whole point of the play -- their real-life struggles, irritants and dramas, petty or otherwise, interesting or otherwise, are for better or worse destined to be forgotten by the world at large. But through George's art, they themselves gain a form of immortality.
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** That's Creator/BrentSpiner as Franz/Dennis in the original cast. Additional big names that were in the Off Broadway version were Creator/ChristineBaranski as Yvonne (then called Clarisse), Creator/KelseyGrammer as The Soldier, and Creator/MaryElizabethMastrantonio as Celeste #2. Unlike Spiner, all those three left before it moved to Broadway.
** You'll also notice a few actors who are better known for being in the original ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' cast. Specifically, Robert Westenberg (Cinderella's Prince) as The Soldier/Alex, Danielle Ferland (Little Red Riding Hood) as Louise, and Barbara Bryne (Jack's Mother) as The Old Lady/Blair Daniels.
** That's Creator/BrentSpiner as Franz/Dennis in the original cast. Additional big names that were in the Off Broadway version were Creator/ChristineBaranski as Yvonne (then called Clarisse), Creator/KelseyGrammer as The Soldier, and Creator/MaryElizabethMastrantonio as Celeste #2. Unlike Spiner, all those three left before it moved to Broadway.
** You'll also notice a few actors who are better known for being in the original ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' cast. Specifically, Robert Westenberg (Cinderella's Prince) as The Soldier/Alex, Danielle Ferland (Little Red Riding Hood) as Louise, and Barbara Bryne (Jack's Mother) as The Old Lady/Blair Daniels.
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* AwardSnub: The show lost out big to ''Theatre/LaCageAuxFolles'' at the Tony Awards. While both shows are beloved classics, this one has grown into the more acclaimed piece, and it losing Musical, Score, Book, Direction, and Actor all to the same show didn't quite sit right. The show also lost Actress as well, though not to ''La Cage''. Of course it is worth noting that ''Sunday'' took home the Pulitzer Prize for Drama, a rare instance of a musical taking that honor.
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* AwardSnub: AwardSnub:
** The show lost out big to ''Theatre/LaCageAuxFolles'' at the Tony Awards. While both shows are beloved classics, this one has grown into the more acclaimed piece, and it losing Musical, Score, Book, Direction, and Actor all to the same show didn't quite sit right. The show also lost Actress as well, though not to ''La Cage''. Of course it is worth noting that ''Sunday'' took home the Pulitzer Prize for Drama, a rare instance of a musical taking thathonor.honor.
** The 2017 revival is a strange case. Despite strong notices it went unrecognized, but ''not'' because of a lack of votes. The show's producers took it out of competition with the explanation that there were too many quality works that year, so even if people wanted to vote for it, they couldn't.
** The show lost out big to ''Theatre/LaCageAuxFolles'' at the Tony Awards. While both shows are beloved classics, this one has grown into the more acclaimed piece, and it losing Musical, Score, Book, Direction, and Actor all to the same show didn't quite sit right. The show also lost Actress as well, though not to ''La Cage''. Of course it is worth noting that ''Sunday'' took home the Pulitzer Prize for Drama, a rare instance of a musical taking that
** The 2017 revival is a strange case. Despite strong notices it went unrecognized, but ''not'' because of a lack of votes. The show's producers took it out of competition with the explanation that there were too many quality works that year, so even if people wanted to vote for it, they couldn't.
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* AwardSnub: The show lost out big to ''Theatre/LaCageAuxFolles'' at the Tony Awards. While both shows are beloved classics, this one has grown into the more acclaimed piece, and it losing Musical, Score, Book, Direction, and Actor all to the same show didn't quite sit right. The show also lost Actress as well, though not to ''La Cage''. Of course it is worth noting that ''Sunday'' took home the Pulitzer Prize for Drama, a rare instance of a musical taking that honor.
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* CantUnhearIt: Given they're two of the most iconic Broadway actors ever and deliver some of their all time best work, it's kind of hard to not think of Creator/MandyPatinkin and Creator/BernadettePeters as George and Dot/Marie.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While they come across as obnoxious straw characters at first, Jules and Yvonne actually come across as fairly sympathetic and fleshed out as the show goes on.
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** While theycome across as initially seem to be obnoxious straw characters at first, Jules and Yvonne actually come across as fairly sympathetic and fleshed out as the show goes on.
** While they
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* SignatureSong: "Finishing The Hat", with "Move On" and "Putting It Together" following it.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While they come across as obnoxious straw characters at first, Jules and Yvonne actually come across as fairly sympathetic and fleshed out as the show goes on.
** Marie is also popular for being a genuinely kind and loving figure to George who’s wiser than she first appears to be. An interesting example since she’s played by the actress who plays Dot, but in terms of the overall story, while she’s part of a leading dual role, her actual character is more supporting.
** Marie is also popular for being a genuinely kind and loving figure to George who’s wiser than she first appears to be. An interesting example since she’s played by the actress who plays Dot, but in terms of the overall story, while she’s part of a leading dual role, her actual character is more supporting.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite the first act’s supporting cast being fairly interesting characters with their own drama, they’re pushed to the side in the second half, with their arcs not getting any official closure. Granted this is clearly an artistic choice that ties into George’s inability to truly connect with and care about the people around him, but still, if you’re hoping to see how the things turn out for anyone other than George, Dot, and Marie, you’re gonna be dissapointed.
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** If recalled correctly, the Celestes were gossiping that "George has another woman." This leaves room for the audience to infer that George is with Madeline Knoblock, his real life mistress, (and painted her over Dot's painting).
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** If recalled correctly, the Celestes were gossiping that "George has another woman." This leaves room for the audience to infer that George is with Madeline Knoblock, Madeleine Knobloch, his real life mistress, (and painted her over Dot's painting).
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: The interaction between the younger George and the shade of Dot comes off as quite romantic, with lyrics like "We will always belong together," despite the fact that Dot is his great-grandmother and long dead.
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*** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
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*** Though of course, the same is shown to be true of Georges' paintings.
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** TrueArtIsForeign: Averted - George of Act II is an American artist. However, his art is on a very different level from the French Georges' art.
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** If recalled correctly, the Celestes were gossiping that "George has another woman." This leaves room for the audience to infer that George is with Madeline Knoblock, his real life mistress, (and painted her over Dot's painting).
