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28th Apr '16 12:05:26 PM firejewel
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** Kallus, as of "The Honorable Ones". While it is revealed that he is more '[[JustFollowingOrders inno]][[DarkAndTroubledPast cent]]' than what was previously believed and having a [[HiddenDepths softer]] [[WhatYouAreInTheDark side]], it doesn't excuse his actions, most notably [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog deriding]] [[DeadManWalking Tua]] during "The Siege of Lothal"]], but this doesn't stop you from feeling bad about how he finally he realizes how [[IJustWantToHaveFriends lonely]] and [[LonelyAtTheTop empty]] it is in the Empire.

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** Kallus, as of "The Honorable Ones". While it is revealed that he is more '[[JustFollowingOrders inno]][[DarkAndTroubledPast cent]]' than what was previously believed and having a [[HiddenDepths softer]] [[WhatYouAreInTheDark side]], it doesn't excuse his actions, most notably [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog deriding]] [[DeadManWalking Tua]] during "The Siege of Lothal"]], but this doesn't stop you from feeling bad about how he finally he realizes how [[IJustWantToHaveFriends lonely]] and [[LonelyAtTheTop empty]] it is in the Empire.
26th Apr '16 4:40:33 PM GahmahRaan
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** [[CanonImmigrant The reintroduction of the Mandalorian Protectors]] seems to be directed to fans who were displeased over ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars The Clone Wars]]''' depiction of the Mandalorians in that era; not just the [[ActualPacifist New Mandalorian]] government, but the thought that the only remnants of the warrior culture left were [[KnightTemplar Death Watch]]. Here, it is confirmed that Fenn Rau and the Protectors fought for the Republic during that war and some of them served as tutors to the Clone Army, similar to how they were depicted in Legends (although in that continuity, the Protectors worked for the Separatists, similar to how Death Watch temporarily did), and that they aren't very fond of Death Watch. To some, this is seen as trying to bring some of the more favorable aspects of the Mandalorian culture back into the new canon after [[CanonDiscontinuity the Legends decision nearly axed them all]].
17th Apr '16 12:21:18 PM CommanderVisor
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** "Shroud of Darkness" for beginning the arc to the finale by bringing back Yoda, Ahsoka, Vader [[spoiler:as well as Anakin in a holocron recording and vision]], and the Inquisitors[[spoiler:, and by Inquisitors, we mean '''all''' of the debuted ones, including a vision of the Grand Inquisitor as a Jedi Temple Guard]]. Kanan also gets [[spoiler:[[{{Knighting}}knight]][[AwesomeMomentOfCrowning ed]] by said Grand Inquisitor]], and the episode also [[BittersweetEnding ends]] with [[spoiler:the heavy implication that Vader and more Inquisitors will be involved as the Jedi trio begin an endgame journey to [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords Malachor]]]].

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** "Shroud of Darkness" for beginning the arc to the finale by bringing back Yoda, Ahsoka, Vader [[spoiler:as well as Anakin in a holocron recording and vision]], and the Inquisitors[[spoiler:, and by Inquisitors, we mean '''all''' of the debuted ones, including a vision of the Grand Inquisitor as a Jedi Temple Guard]]. Kanan also gets [[spoiler:[[{{Knighting}}knight]][[AwesomeMomentOfCrowning [[spoiler:[[{{Knighting}} knight]][[AwesomeMomentOfCrowning ed]] by said Grand Inquisitor]], and the episode also [[BittersweetEnding ends]] with [[spoiler:the heavy implication that Vader and more Inquisitors will be involved as the Jedi trio begin an endgame journey to [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords Malachor]]]].
17th Apr '16 12:20:35 PM CommanderVisor
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** In "Relics of the Old Republic", is Rex puts his faith in Kanan and Ezra, saying that [[spoiler: a Jedi wouldn't be "blind" in a sandstorm.]]
17th Apr '16 10:18:27 AM IchigoMontoya
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** It's also easy to compare him to Zhao from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', given that they're both villainous high ranking officers of TheEmpire voiced by Jason Isaacs who act as major starting foes for the heroes only to [[spoiler:fight their enemies atop a bridge and die at the end of the first season in order to make way for a new, much more dangerous opponent, with similar ending scenes of their respective Season 1 finales. Though Darth Vader is the EvilOverlord's [[TheDragon dragon]] tasked to hunt down the heroes, he is not so much Azula as the Seventh Sister is being the deadly female lead antagonist sent to finish her predecessor's job]]. It's hilarious considering that previously, ''Avatar'' was compared to ''Star Wars'' quite a lot.

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** It's also easy to compare him to Zhao from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', given that they're both villainous high ranking officers of TheEmpire voiced by Jason Isaacs who act as major starting foes for the heroes only to [[spoiler:fight their enemies atop a bridge and die at the end of the first season in order to make way for a new, much more dangerous opponent, with similar ending scenes of their respective Season 1 finales. Though Darth Vader is the EvilOverlord's [[TheDragon dragon]] tasked to hunt down the heroes, he is he's not so much Azula as the Seventh Sister is is, being the deadly female lead antagonist sent to finish her predecessor's job]]. It's hilarious considering that previously, ''Avatar'' was compared to ''Star Wars'' quite a lot.



** Kallus, as of "The Honorable Ones". While it is revealed that he is more '[[JustFollowingOrders inno]][[DarkAndTroubledPast cent]]' than what was previously believed and having a [[HiddenDepths softer]] [[WhatYouAreInTheDark side]], this still does not excuse his actions, most notably [[spoiler:[[SmugSnake deriding]] [[DeadManWalking Tua]] during "The Siege of Lothal"]], but this doesn't stop you from feeling bad about how he finally he realizes how [[IJustWantToHaveFriends lonely]] and [[LonelyAtTheTop empty]] it is in the Empire.

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** Kallus, as of "The Honorable Ones". While it is revealed that he is more '[[JustFollowingOrders inno]][[DarkAndTroubledPast cent]]' than what was previously believed and having a [[HiddenDepths softer]] [[WhatYouAreInTheDark side]], this still does not it doesn't excuse his actions, most notably [[spoiler:[[SmugSnake [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog deriding]] [[DeadManWalking Tua]] during "The Siege of Lothal"]], but this doesn't stop you from feeling bad about how he finally he realizes how [[IJustWantToHaveFriends lonely]] and [[LonelyAtTheTop empty]] it is in the Empire.



** Ahsoka Tano qualifies by virtue of being a fan-favorite character from ''The Clone Wars'' and returning as a supporting character in this series. Ironic considering she began as a BaseBreaker before earning her love from the fanbase.

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** Ahsoka Tano qualifies by virtue of being a fan-favorite character from ''The Clone Wars'' and returning as a supporting character in this series. Ironic Ironic, considering she began as a BaseBreaker before earning her love from the fanbase.



** Minister Maketh Tua seemed to have a following (notably on Tumblr) [[spoiler:before her death]]. Mostly due to being the first onscreen female Imperial, [[{{Adorkable}} her patriotic fervor]] [[spoiler:[[BreakTheCutie at least until "The Siege of Lothal"]]]], and shipping. Also, her hat gained some memetic popularity.

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** Minister Maketh Tua seemed to have a following (notably on Tumblr) [[spoiler:before her death]]. Mostly due to being the first onscreen female Imperial, [[{{Adorkable}} her patriotic fervor]] [[spoiler:[[BreakTheCutie at least until "The Siege of Lothal"]]]], and shipping. Also, her hat [[NiceHat hat]] gained some memetic popularity.



** As monstrous as he is, Grand Moff Tarkin gets shit ''done''.

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** As monstrous as he is, Grand Moff Tarkin gets shit stuff ''done''.



** Kallus. His voice, cunning, and [[BadassBeard sideburns]] are definitely contributing factors.
** The Seventh Sister is a beautiful, positively deadly villain who's overly touchy-feely with her prey, helped by Creator/SarahMichelleGellar's performance.

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** Kallus. His voice, [[EvilSoundsDeep voice]], cunning, and [[BadassBeard sideburns]] are definitely contributing factors.
** The Seventh Sister is a beautiful, positively deadly villain villainess who's overly touchy-feely with her prey, helped by Creator/SarahMichelleGellar's performance.



** [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Yularen]], who is confirmed to be a high-ranking member of the ISB, being a [[AFatherToHisMen fatherly]] [[ParentalSubstitute mentor]] to [[LikeASonToMe Kallus]] (his subordinate).

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** [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Yularen]], who is who's confirmed to be a high-ranking member of the ISB, being a [[AFatherToHisMen fatherly]] [[ParentalSubstitute mentor]] to [[LikeASonToMe Kallus]] (his subordinate).



** Also from "Twilight of the Apprentice": after witnessing part of the epic duel between Ahsoka and Darth Vader, Ezra, who's just been soundly beaten by the latterer declares that he needs a lot more training. In that moment it's a funny little moment, that bring some levity to the seriousness of the unfolding events. Skip to the end of the episode [[spoiler: Ezra using his anger and pain over losing Ahsoka and Kanan's blindness, opens the Sith holocron to get more training.]]

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** Also from "Twilight of the Apprentice": after witnessing part of the epic duel between Ahsoka and Darth Vader, Ezra, who's just been soundly beaten by the latterer latter, declares that he needs a lot more training. In that moment There, it's a funny little moment, moment that bring brings some levity to the seriousness of the unfolding events. Skip to the end of the episode episode, [[spoiler: Ezra Ezra, using his anger and pain over losing Ahsoka and Kanan's blindness, opens the Sith holocron to get more training.]]



** The theory that Chopper is actually an assassin droid rebuilt as an astromech became a lot funnier after ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'' revealed that there is an assassin droid that can be disguised as an astromech, and that said assassin droid was decommissioned for being [[UpToEleven too homicidal]].

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** The theory that Chopper is actually an assassin droid rebuilt as an astromech became a lot funnier after ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'' revealed that there is there's an assassin droid that can be disguised as an astromech, and that said assassin droid was decommissioned for being [[UpToEleven too homicidal]].



** In August 2014 the Reforged team of WebVideo/ManAtArms built a katana with a lightsaber-style hilt. In March 2015 Ahsoka Tano shows up in Rebels, wielding lightsabers with katana-style hilts.

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** In August 2014 2014, the Reforged team of WebVideo/ManAtArms built a katana with a lightsaber-style hilt. In March 2015 2015, Ahsoka Tano shows up in Rebels, wielding lightsabers with katana-style hilts.



** In the Season 2 episode "A Princess on Lothal" the Imperials see the Rebels stage a false abduction of [[spoiler:Princess Leia]] and assume that they're taking prisoners for real. [[spoiler:In the very next episode, "Protectors of the Concord Dawn," they do exactly that.]]
** Ever since Kanan Jarrus was introduced, several fans drew comparisons to [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed Rahm Kota]]. As of "Twilight of the Apprentice", there's even more to reason to compare Rahm with Kanan [[spoiler:given that Kanan's been blinded -- and by ''another'' character voiced by Sam Witwer, to boot]].

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** In the Season 2 episode "A Princess on Lothal" Lothal", the Imperials see the Rebels stage a false abduction of [[spoiler:Princess Leia]] and assume that they're taking prisoners for real. [[spoiler:In the very next episode, "Protectors of the Concord Dawn," they do exactly that.]]
** Ever since Kanan Jarrus was introduced, several fans drew comparisons to [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed Rahm Kota]]. As of "Twilight of the Apprentice", there's even more to reason to compare Rahm with Kanan [[spoiler:given that Kanan's been blinded -- and by ''another'' red lightsaber-wielding character voiced by Sam Witwer, to boot]].



** "Twilight of the Apprentice" has [[spoiler:the return of Maul, who gives the Seventh Sister a [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe brutal death]] and the Fifth Brother an impale, as well as managing to corrupt Ezra enough that the boy can open a Sith holocron by ''himself'', '''and''' ''[[EyeScream blinding Kanan]]''. And not only that, but we finally get the fight we've all been waiting nearly a decade for; Ahsoka vs. Vader. In the end, it is ambiguous as to whether or not Ahsoka died or once again embarked on a road not taken, but this is the end of her story.]]

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** "Twilight of the Apprentice" has [[spoiler:the return of Maul, who gives the Seventh Sister a [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe brutal death]] and the Fifth Brother an impale, impaling, as well as managing to corrupt Ezra enough that the boy can open a Sith holocron by ''himself'', '''and''' ''[[EyeScream blinding Kanan]]''. And not only that, but we finally get the fight we've all been waiting nearly a decade for; Ahsoka vs. Vader. In the end, it is it's ambiguous as to whether or not Ahsoka died or once again embarked on a road not taken, but this is the end of her story.]]



** Zeb seems pretty gruff and unlikable, until it is explained to Ezra that Zeb's species (the Lasats) were an early group to defy the Empire, who responded by ''genociding almost his entire race'' to make an example of them, and to underscore the "lesson", used horrific weapons officially banned by interstellar law when they "cleaned out" Lasan (Disruptor guns, which according to Legends stories, make their targets die in utter agony by vaporizing them). The Lasats are nearly extinct as a result.

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** Zeb seems pretty gruff and unlikable, grouchy, until it is it's explained to Ezra that Zeb's species (the Lasats) were an early group to defy the Empire, who responded by ''genociding almost his entire race'' to make an example of them, and to underscore the "lesson", used horrific weapons officially banned by interstellar law when they "cleaned out" Lasan (Disruptor guns, which according to Legends stories, make their targets die in utter agony by vaporizing them). The Lasats are nearly extinct as a result.



*** It's also worth highlighting that when we first meet him in ''Spark of Rebellion'', Ezra saves a street vendor from being arrested from the Empire. ''Then'' he steals a bunch of ''food'' from him, defending himself with "Hey, a kid's got to eat!" And after that he steals from the Ghost crew, ''who were also stealing''. Ezra's "looking out for number one" mentality is an InformedAttribute—he sure ''says'' it a lot but what we are ''shown'' is much milder than that.

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*** It's also worth highlighting that when we first meet him in ''Spark of Rebellion'', Ezra saves a street vendor from being arrested from the Empire. ''Then'' he steals a bunch of ''food'' from him, defending himself with "Hey, a kid's got to gotta eat!" And after that he steals from the Ghost crew, ''who were also stealing''. Ezra's "looking out for number one" mentality is an InformedAttribute—he InformedAttribute; he sure ''says'' it a lot lot, but what we are ''shown'' is much milder than that.



** The Inquisitor with his trap in "Rise Of The Old Masters". It would have succeeded if his {{Mooks}} weren't completely ineffective.

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** The Grand Inquisitor with his trap in "Rise Of The Old Masters". It would have succeeded if his {{Mooks}} weren't completely ineffective.



** Grand Moff Tarkin, who in the span of only his ''first appearance'' in the show wipes out the incompetence among Lothal's Imperial forces, hurts the rebel group more than any other adversary they had been confronted with thus far, and takes one of their leaders captive to torture and nearly kill. While he would eventually devolve into a SmugSnake in ''A New Hope'' due to an increase in power, here he is clearly in his prime as a strategic villain.
** '''Darth Vader'''. In the space of two episodes, he sends the ''Ghost'' crew on the run and basically shatters all Rebel resistance on Lothal, two things that the previous antagonists couldn't achieve in an ''entire season''. His {{Badass}} credentials are being a vastly superior lightsaber duelist and Force user, but he also shows he is TheChessmaster ''par excellence'' as he achieved this goal through orchestrating an elaborate and sophisticated plan to lure the crew to Lothal so he can put a tracker on their ship while allowing them to only narrowly escape so that they thought they did it on their own, meaning when they regrouped with the fleet he was able to track them to the rest of the rebellion. He then takes on the fledging Rebel fleet in his [=TIE=] fighter ''by himself, and WINS'', forcing them to go on the run, while on the bastard side, he orders a refugee camp burnt to the ground in order to break any further resistance on the planet. The heroes are utterly terrified of him (as are some of the villains) and he is easily and by a ''wide'' margin the most competent ''character''- Imperial or Rebel- seen on the show thus far.
** [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] immediately becomes this in [[TheBusCameBack his return.]] He singlehandedly manages to [[spoiler: ''gruesomely slaughter'' the [[BigBadWannabe Seventh Sister]], the [[SmugSnake Fifth Brother]], and the [[StupidEvil Eighth Brother]] in a fight, plays Ahsoka and Kanan for fools, [[EyeScream permanently blinds]] Kanan, tempts Ezra to the dark side, and easily gets away scott free with disrupting Darth Vader's plans (stealing an Inquisitor's custom fighter in the process). While he didn't succeed in obtaining the superweapon for himself, he was only one to come out of the events on Malachor better off for the experience.]]
* MemeticLoser: The Fifth Brother, at least on Tumblr. His brute approach to the problem and his thuggish appearance had led many to see him as just a [[CannonFodder generic Inquisitor]] ready to be used for WorfEffect like, for example, getting [=KOed=] by running into a pillar during [[spoiler:the fight with Ahsoka]]. Some fans goes as far as betting that he would be the first Season 2 Inquisitor to bite the dust. Not helped that his FanNickname is [[TomTheDarkLord 'Clyde']] or the fact he's paired up with more interesting and deadly Seventh Sister.

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** Grand Moff Tarkin, who in the span of only his ''first appearance'' in the show wipes out the incompetence among Lothal's Imperial forces, hurts the rebel group more than any other adversary they had been confronted with thus far, and takes one of their leaders captive to torture and nearly kill. While he would eventually devolve into a SmugSnake in ''A New Hope'' due to an increase in power, here he is here, he's clearly in his prime as a strategic villain.
** '''Darth Vader'''. In the space of two episodes, he sends the ''Ghost'' crew on the run and basically shatters all Rebel resistance on Lothal, two things that the previous antagonists couldn't achieve in an ''entire season''. His {{Badass}} credentials are being a vastly superior lightsaber duelist and Force user, but he also shows he is that he's TheChessmaster ''par excellence'' as he achieved this goal through orchestrating an elaborate and sophisticated plan to lure the crew to Lothal so he can put a tracker on their ship while allowing them to only narrowly escape so that they thought they did it on their own, meaning when they regrouped with the fleet he was able to track them to the rest of the rebellion. He then takes on the fledging Rebel fleet in his [=TIE=] fighter ''by himself, and WINS'', forcing them to go on the run, while on the bastard side, he orders a refugee camp burnt to the ground in order to break any further resistance on the planet. The heroes are utterly terrified of him (as are some of the villains) and he is he's easily and by a ''wide'' margin the most competent ''character''- Imperial or Rebel- seen on the show thus far.
** [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] immediately becomes this in [[TheBusCameBack his return.]] He singlehandedly manages to [[spoiler: ''gruesomely slaughter'' the [[BigBadWannabe Seventh Sister]], the [[SmugSnake Fifth Brother]], Sister and the [[StupidEvil Eighth Brother]] Fifth Brother in a fight, plays Ahsoka and Kanan for fools, [[EyeScream permanently blinds]] Kanan, tempts Ezra to the dark side, and easily gets away scott free with disrupting Darth Vader's plans (stealing an Inquisitor's custom fighter in the process). While he didn't succeed in obtaining the superweapon for himself, he was only one to come out of the events on Malachor better off for the experience.]]
* MemeticLoser: The Fifth Brother, at least on Tumblr. His brute approach to the problem and his thuggish appearance had led many to see him as just a [[CannonFodder generic Inquisitor]] ready to be used for WorfEffect like, [[TheWorfEffect Worfed]]; for example, getting [=KOed=] by running being sent stumbling into a pillar during [[spoiler:the fight with Ahsoka]]. Some fans goes went as far as betting that he would be the first Season 2 Inquisitor to bite the dust. Not helped that his FanNickname is [[TomTheDarkLord 'Clyde']] or the fact he's paired up with more interesting and deadly Seventh Sister.



* MemeticPsychopath: Chopper's become one after "Vision of Hope", in which he eliminated an Imperial droid by deactivating and then pushing him into a manhole like he's trying to cover up a murder. As a result, [[EpilepticTrees some fans have begun to suspect that Chopper is actually an assassin droid rebuilt as an astromech]]. (And given his ComedicSociopathy tendencies, some of them also like to specifically think he's [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic HK-47]].) No doubt him grabbing a pair of blasters and unleashing havoc against Azmorigan will add more fuel to the fire. its also worth noting that he wanted to blow up the inquisitor's ship knowing full well that a FREAKING BABY was on board.

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* MemeticPsychopath: Chopper's become one after "Vision of Hope", in which he eliminated an Imperial droid by deactivating and then pushing him into a manhole like he's trying to cover up a murder. As a result, [[EpilepticTrees some fans have begun to suspect that Chopper is actually an assassin droid rebuilt as an astromech]]. (And given his ComedicSociopathy tendencies, some of them also like to specifically think he's [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic HK-47]].) No doubt him grabbing a pair of blasters and unleashing havoc against Azmorigan will add more fuel to the fire. its It's also worth noting that he wanted to blow up the inquisitor's ship Inquisitors' TIE Fighters, knowing full well that a FREAKING BABY baby was on board.board at the time.



** On Tumblr, Ezra is the Moe for being small, cute, and a woobie.

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** On Tumblr, Ezra is the Moe gets this treatment for being small, cute, and a woobie.TheWoobie.



** The Base-Delta-Zero initiative.In the Legends continuity it was obliterating a planet's sentient population and all standing structures via orbital bombardment. The name might just be a wink to followers of the old continuity...or it could mean that the Empire is, indeed, sterilizing multiple worlds in its attempts to crack down.
** Want a reminder of how monstrous Tarkin is? When he calls Aresko and Grint to discuss the rebels [[spoiler:he has The Inquisitor behead them both for their repeated failures while their backs were turned]]. Minister Tua's and even Agent Kallus' reactions to seeing this is all that's needed to see he crosses this before ''A New Hope''.

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** The Base-Delta-Zero initiative. In the Legends continuity ''Legends'', it was obliterating a planet's sentient population and all standing structures via orbital bombardment. The name might just be a wink to followers of the old continuity...or it could mean that the Empire is, indeed, sterilizing multiple worlds in its attempts to crack down.
** Want a reminder of how monstrous Tarkin is? When he calls Aresko and Grint to discuss the rebels rebels, [[spoiler:he has The the Inquisitor behead them both for their repeated failures while their backs were turned]]. Minister Tua's and even Agent Kallus' reactions to seeing this is all that's needed to see he crosses this that the Grand Moff was a nasty piece of work even before ''A New Hope''.



* NeverLiveItDown: Some people ({{Tumblr}}, predominately) aren't so quick to forgive Kallus after his [[DarkAndTroubledPast char]][[NobleDemon act]][[JustFollowingOrders eriz]][[NothingPersonal ation]] [[HeelRealization in]] "The Honorable Ones", never mind accept a possible redemption arc from him, mostly due to practically escorting [[HeelFaceDoorSlam Tua]] to her assassination while [[SmugSnake taunting]] [[KickTheDog her]] back in "The Siege of Lothal" (also not forgetting that he's burnt down Tarkintown, blockaded Ibaar, etc.). Most of the same people also think that the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot arc should've]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter belonged to her]] or someone else that hasn't been already depicted as villainous as Kallus, [[BrokenBase although]] some have pointed out that this trope and arguments will likely be applied and addressed in-universe later on in Kallus's character arc.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Some people ({{Tumblr}}, predominately) aren't so quick to forgive Kallus after his [[DarkAndTroubledPast char]][[NobleDemon act]][[JustFollowingOrders eriz]][[NothingPersonal ation]] [[HeelRealization in]] "The Honorable Ones", never mind accept a possible redemption arc from him, mostly due to practically escorting [[HeelFaceDoorSlam Tua]] to her assassination while [[SmugSnake [[{{Jerkass}} taunting]] [[KickTheDog her]] back in "The Siege of Lothal" (also not forgetting that he's burnt down Tarkintown, blockaded Ibaar, etc.). Most of the same people also think that the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot arc should've]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter belonged to her]] or someone else that hasn't been already depicted as villainous as Kallus, [[BrokenBase although]] some have pointed out that this trope and arguments will likely be applied and addressed in-universe later on in Kallus's character arc.



** While they become recurring characters in Season 2, Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader show up in the last few minutes of "Fire Across the Galaxy".



* ParanoiaFuel: After the events of "Vision of Hope" the crew of the ''Ghost'' have to ask themselves a couple of questions. Questions like "[[spoiler:What other Rebel operation is really an Imperial FalseFlagOperation]]?" or "[[spoiler:Just how many Rebel cells are secretly controlled and manipulated by the Empire's security forces]]?"

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* ParanoiaFuel: After the events of "Vision of Hope" Hope", the crew of the ''Ghost'' have to ask themselves a couple of questions. Questions like "[[spoiler:What other Rebel operation is really an Imperial FalseFlagOperation]]?" or "[[spoiler:Just how many Rebel cells are secretly controlled and manipulated by the Empire's security forces]]?"



** 'Kalluzeb' for [[HoYay Kallus/Zeb]].

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** 'Kalluzeb' for [[HoYay [[FoeYay Kallus/Zeb]].



** Rebels' portrayal of Darth Vader. Though he never really ''needed'' saving per se (what with arguably being the most iconic symbol of the franchise); the prequel films and, in particular, the infamous sequence at the end of ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' have been noted to have somewhat dampened his capacity as a figure to be afraid of. His debut here ''fixes that, '''and then some.''' '' While ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' helped to fix the damage done to ''Anakin'', Rebels made sure ''Darth Vader'' is nothing short of ''terrifying.''

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** Rebels' portrayal of Darth Vader. Though he never really ''needed'' saving per se (what with arguably being the most iconic symbol of the franchise); the prequel films and, in particular, the infamous sequence at the end of ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' have been noted to have somewhat dampened his capacity as a figure to be afraid of. His debut here ''fixes that, '''and then some.''' '' While ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' helped to fix the damage done to ''Anakin'', Rebels made sure ''Darth Vader'' ''Vader'' is nothing short of ''terrifying.''



** In "Idiot's Array" Lando flirts with Sabine. He's late twenties at the least, while she's sixteen/seventeen. There are also Azmorigan's tendencies for JabbaTableManners and MarsNeedsWomen.

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** In "Idiot's Array" Array", Lando flirts with Sabine. He's late twenties at the least, while she's sixteen/seventeen. There are There's also Azmorigan's tendencies for JabbaTableManners and MarsNeedsWomen.



** [[spoiler: Darth Maul Vs. Darth Vader]] was highly speculated once the former debuted in a season 2 trailer, and Dave Filoni himself teased the idea. In the second season finale, however, [[spoiler: Maul admits he's no match for Vader alone and the two never cross blades.]] And it was scrapped in favor of the more emotionally relevant [[spoiler: Ahoska vs. Vader confrontation.]] Not to say that [[spoiler: Maul's survival might leave an opening for this idea beyond Season 3]]

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** [[spoiler: Darth Maul Vs. Darth Vader]] was highly speculated once the former debuted in a season 2 trailer, and Dave Filoni himself teased the idea. In the second season finale, however, [[spoiler: Maul admits he's no match for Vader alone and the two never cross blades.]] And it was scrapped in favor of the more emotionally relevant [[spoiler: Ahoska vs. Vader confrontation.]] Not to say that [[spoiler: Maul's survival might leave an opening for this idea beyond Season 3]]3]].



** The death of [[spoiler:the Inquisitor]] at the end of the first season may come across as this to some, since promotional materials built him up to be an incredible threat and a major character on the show. The fact that there are [[spoiler:''two'' new Inquisitors]] replacing him doesn't help.

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** The death of [[spoiler:the Grand Inquisitor]] at the end of the first season may come across as this to some, since promotional materials built him up to be an incredible threat and a major character on the show. The fact that there are [[spoiler:''two'' new Inquisitors]] replacing him doesn't help.



** Much like their predecessor, [[spoiler: the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother are killed at the end of the second season]] without much characterization or development, particularly the former who was a major fan favorite. The [[spoiler:Eighth Brother also got this, as he was basically a RedShirt, although considering he fell from about similar height that Maul survived, it is possible he survived as well.]]

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** Much like their predecessor, [[spoiler: the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother are killed at the end of the second season]] without much characterization or development, particularly the former who was a major fan favorite. The [[spoiler:Eighth Brother also got this, as he was basically a RedShirt, although considering he fell from about a similar height that Maul survived, it is it's possible that he survived as well.]]



* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Lando Calrissian, hated in-universe but loved out of it. Also Darth Vader himself, who is, well, [[TheDreaded Darth Vader]] in-universe... And, well, [[ClassicVillain Darth Vader out of it]].

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* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Lando Calrissian, hated in-universe in-universe, but loved out of it. Also Also, Darth Vader himself, who is, who's, well, [[TheDreaded Darth Vader]] in-universe... And, well, [[ClassicVillain Darth Vader out of it]].



* VillainDecay: [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] started out as one of the most feared Sith lords in the entire galaxy and had many successful victories in his tenure during the war. However, he went from being a powerful Sith lord to a lone villain with no apprentice or followers with a petty grudge against Darth Vader and the Emperor. The only villainous plans he has left involve simply screwing over the Empire in order to get back at them. Though, he does grow into one of the more competent antagonists in the series immediately when action comes into play.

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* VillainDecay: [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] started out as one of the most feared Sith lords Lord in the entire galaxy and had many successful victories in his tenure during the war. However, he went from being a powerful Sith lord Lord to a lone villain with no apprentice or followers with a petty grudge against Darth Vader and the Emperor. The only villainous plans he has left involve simply screwing over the Empire in order to get back at them. Though, he does grow into one of the more competent antagonists in the series immediately when action comes into play.
17th Apr '16 3:56:59 AM Werebazs
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--> [[spoiler: '''Maul''']]]: "That's it, young one! Use your anger! Use your hate! Let it fill you, FEEEEL YOOOUUUU!"

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--> [[spoiler: '''Maul''']]]: "That's it, young one! Use your anger! Use your hate! Let it fill you, FEEEEL FUUEEL YOOOUUUU!"
12th Apr '16 10:12:41 PM CommanderVisor
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** The origin of Kallus' [[MemeticHair wonderful sideburns]] being from his helmet (to explain the convenient sideburn guards) getting stuck on his head during shaving and deciding to stick with his new hairdo afterwards.
11th Apr '16 2:18:04 PM katethegr8
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* UnpleasableFanbase: Likely knowing that people [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt would call out]] the show for not having the guts to kill off Ahsoka, but would still do it anyway if they [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter killed]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot off]] Ahsoka, [[spoiler:[[TakeAThirdOption the ending of]] "Twilight of the Apprentice" has [[AmbiguousSituation her fate be ambiguous]]; either she died or is once again [[HistoryRepeats walking another]] [[BookEnds path alone]]]]. Still hasn't stopped people from complaining about the vagueness of this option.
10th Apr '16 9:44:28 PM dinohunterpat
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** [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] immediately becomes this in [[TheBusCameBack his return.]] He singlehandedly manages to [[spoiler: ''gruesomely slaughter'' the [[BigBadWannabe Seventh Sister]], the [[SmugSnake Fifth Brother]], and the [[StupidEvil Eighth Brother]] in a fight, plays Ahsoka and Kanan for fools, [[EyeScream permanently blinds]] Kanan, tempts Ezra to the dark side, and easily gets away scott free with disrupting Darth Vader's plans (stealing his personal ship in the process). While he didn't succeed in obtaining the superweapon for himself, he was only one to come out of the events on Malachor better off for the experience.]]

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** [[spoiler: Darth Maul]] immediately becomes this in [[TheBusCameBack his return.]] He singlehandedly manages to [[spoiler: ''gruesomely slaughter'' the [[BigBadWannabe Seventh Sister]], the [[SmugSnake Fifth Brother]], and the [[StupidEvil Eighth Brother]] in a fight, plays Ahsoka and Kanan for fools, [[EyeScream permanently blinds]] Kanan, tempts Ezra to the dark side, and easily gets away scott free with disrupting Darth Vader's plans (stealing his personal ship an Inquisitor's custom fighter in the process). While he didn't succeed in obtaining the superweapon for himself, he was only one to come out of the events on Malachor better off for the experience.]]
10th Apr '16 9:07:22 AM Josef5678
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*** It's also worth highlighting that when we first meet him in ''Spark of Rebellion'', Ezra saves a street vendor from being arrested from the Empire. ''Then'' he steals a bunch of ''food'' from him, defending himself with "Hey, a kid's got to eat!" And after that he steals from the Ghost crew, ''who were also stealing''. Ezra's "looking out for number one" mentality is an InformedAttribute—he sure ''says'' it a lot but what we are ''shown'' is much milder than that.

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*** It's also worth highlighting that when we first meet him in ''Spark of Rebellion'', Ezra saves a street vendor from being arrested from the Empire. ''Then'' he steals a bunch of ''food'' from him, defending himself with "Hey, a kid's got to eat!" And after that he steals from the Ghost crew, ''who were also stealing''. Ezra's "looking out for number one" mentality is an InformedAttribute—he InformedAttribute—he sure ''says'' it a lot but what we are ''shown'' is much milder than that.



*** A minor example is Darth Vader's looks, which got complains for having a taller helmet and red lens, based off Ralph McQuarrie's concept art.

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*** A minor example is Darth Vader's looks, which got complains for having a taller helmet and red lens, based off Ralph McQuarrie's [=McQuarrie=]'s concept art.
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