History YMMV / StarTrekVItheUndiscoveredCountry

31st Jan '17 2:21:10 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* EvilIsCool: General Chang, no small part due to his actor Christopher Plummer ChewingTheScenery and how he views Kirk as a WorthyOpponent.

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* EvilIsCool: General Chang, no small part due to his actor Christopher Plummer ChewingTheScenery ChewingTheScenery, being WickedCultured and how he views Kirk as a WorthyOpponent.
13th Jan '17 9:55:42 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* EvilIsCool: General Chang, no small part due to his actor Christopher Plummer's ChewingTheScenery and how he views Kirk as a WorthyOpponent.

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* EvilIsCool: General Chang, no small part due to his actor Christopher Plummer's Plummer ChewingTheScenery and how he views Kirk as a WorthyOpponent.
13th Jan '17 9:54:33 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* EvilIsCool: General Chang, no small part due to his actor Christopher Plummer's ChewingTheScenery and how he views Kirk as a WorthyOpponent.
3rd Dec '16 5:36:53 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* EvilIsSexy: [[spoiler:Martia, given she's played by StatuesqueStunner supermodel and the late Music/DavidBowie's wife Iman and Valeris, played by Kim Cattrall.]]
14th Oct '16 12:45:06 PM AFP
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** Not to mention that, by DS9's time, we're talking 70-80 years of peace between the Federation and the Klingons, which isn't a bad run at all. Who's to say that a Federation conquest of the Klingon Empire wouldn't have resulted in something much darker by the mid-24th century?
20th Jun '16 12:45:37 AM omegafire17
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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with?'' But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.Putin.
**Subverted; they did so because they believed Undine had infiltrated all the major powers, tried to get the others to join in on rooting them out, yet were rebuffed. They were ''completely right''. And as soon as this menace is fully revealed, they go back to being friends like nothing happened. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Also, the Federation isn't the type to launch invasions before a war starts]].



* BetterOnDVD: When you watch the film again, you can see just when Spock slaps the patch on Kirk - and see the patch, too. The Klingons weren't very thorough, huh?

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* BetterOnDVD: When you watch the film again, you can see just when Spock slaps the patch on Kirk - and see the patch, too. The Klingons weren't very thorough, huh?huh? Or perhaps just didn't recognize it as important?
9th May '16 2:13:13 PM BoostPressure
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The ''Excelsior'', after its ButtMonkey status in ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock''.
3rd Jul '15 9:45:08 PM StarSword
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C.''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
3rd Jul '15 9:43:49 PM StarSword
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.
4th Jun '15 11:50:26 AM KingStatham
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** Chang is clearly the obvious villain of the piece, though - covering for the [[spoiler: real twist in the film that ''Starfleet officers'' are part of a conspiracy, and that ''they'' supplied Chang with the damning recording of Kirk]].
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