History YMMV / StarTrekVItheUndiscoveredCountry

3rd Dec '16 5:36:53 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* EvilIsSexy: [[spoiler:Martia, given she's played by StatuesqueStunner supermodel and the late Music/DavidBowie's wife Iman and Valeris, played by Kim Cattrall.]]
14th Oct '16 12:45:06 PM AFP
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** Not to mention that, by DS9's time, we're talking 70-80 years of peace between the Federation and the Klingons, which isn't a bad run at all. Who's to say that a Federation conquest of the Klingon Empire wouldn't have resulted in something much darker by the mid-24th century?
20th Jun '16 12:45:37 AM omegafire17
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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with?'' But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.Putin.
**Subverted; they did so because they believed Undine had infiltrated all the major powers, tried to get the others to join in on rooting them out, yet were rebuffed. They were ''completely right''. And as soon as this menace is fully revealed, they go back to being friends like nothing happened. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Also, the Federation isn't the type to launch invasions before a war starts]].



* BetterOnDVD: When you watch the film again, you can see just when Spock slaps the patch on Kirk - and see the patch, too. The Klingons weren't very thorough, huh?

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* BetterOnDVD: When you watch the film again, you can see just when Spock slaps the patch on Kirk - and see the patch, too. The Klingons weren't very thorough, huh?huh? Or perhaps just didn't recognize it as important?
9th May '16 2:13:13 PM BoostPressure
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The ''Excelsior'', after its ButtMonkey status in ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock''.
3rd Jul '15 9:45:08 PM StarSword
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C.''Enterprise''-C against their mutual foe the Romulans. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
3rd Jul '15 9:43:49 PM StarSword
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There's a faction of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fandom, particularly in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'''s playerbase, that views the destruction of Praxis as a missed opportunity for the Federation to deal with the Klingons permanently, that they should have taken the opportunity to launch a full-scale invasion because the peace, however well-intentioned, would not prove sustainable: "Yesterday's Enterprise" showed the Klingons and Federation at war despite the Khitomer Accords, with this only averted in the prime timeline through the loss of the ''Enterprise''-C. In 2372 the Klingons go off half-cocked against the newly democratic Cardassian Union, eventually driving them right into the hands of the Dominion, and declaring war on the Federation when their allies tried to rein them in. The exact same thing as in 2372 happened in the backstory to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', only with the Undine instead of the Dominion as bogeyman du jour. In both of the latter two instances, the alliance was only restored by [[EnemyMine a mutual enemy]]. ''So what happens when the Federation runs out of mutual foes they can distract the Klingons with?''\\
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But hey, we got an end-of-the-UsefulNotes/ColdWar allegory out of it, right? And as with the collapse of the Soviet Union, it didn't take so very long for the Klingon "allies" to fall back into their old habits. Exhibit A: Vladimir Putin.
4th Jun '15 11:50:26 AM KingStatham
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** Chang is clearly the obvious villain of the piece, though - covering for the [[spoiler: real twist in the film that ''Starfleet officers'' are part of a conspiracy, and that ''they'' supplied Chang with the damning recording of Kirk]].
31st May '15 9:48:03 AM OlfinBedwere
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** [[FridgeLogic Always bugged me.]] You're telling me the Klingon Empire are supposed to be the villains of the story, but they don't so much as take their prisoners' clothes away? Heck, they even give them extra clothes on Rura Penthe, though, granted, they'd probably die of hypothermia if they didn't. However, they still get to keep their Starfleet Uniforms...why?
31st May '15 3:41:05 AM OlfinBedwere
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Not only was it a major return to form after the horribly-received previous film, more than a few fans even regarded it as the best ''Trek'' film since ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''.
20th Apr '15 11:36:09 AM nombretomado
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: This film addresses the fears many people had about the imminent collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the ColdWar.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: This film addresses the fears many people had about the imminent collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the ColdWar.UsefulNotes/ColdWar.
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