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10th Feb '16 4:33:21 PM StarSword
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** The Bortasqu' line got dumped in the "fail" column mostly because it's altogether too different from the rest of the KDF lineup. The Klingons tend to build smaller, faster ships that can use dual cannons well, but despite being called a "battle cruiser" like the Vor'cha and its cousins the Bort is basically a Starfleet engineering/tactical MightyGlacier with the serial numbers filed off. It can mount [=DCs=] but on launch couldn't turn well enough to use them properly[[note]]this was later mitigated by the addition of the fleet dilithium mine, which contains high-grade turn-boosting consoles[[/note]], so the majority of KDF players used to the faction's many zippier options found they often had to reskill to use it competently. It doesn't help that, since Cryptic [[InsistentTerminology calls it a "battle cruiser" even though it's really a cruiser]], when cruiser commands debuted the Bort didn't get the "Attract Fire" command that Starfleet cruisers get (although threat generation isn't all that useful anyway).

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** The Bortasqu' line got dumped in the "fail" column mostly because it's altogether too different from the rest of the KDF lineup. The Klingons tend to build smaller, faster ships that can use dual cannons well, but despite being called a "battle cruiser" like the Vor'cha and its cousins the Bort is basically a Starfleet engineering/tactical MightyGlacier with the serial numbers filed off. It can mount [=DCs=] but on launch couldn't turn well enough to use them properly[[note]]this was later mitigated by the addition of the fleet dilithium mine, which contains high-grade turn-boosting consoles[[/note]], so the majority of KDF players used to the faction's many zippier options found they often had to reskill to use it competently. It also has an outsize Inertia stat which cripples its acceleration, weaker shields than its opposite number the ''Odyssey''-class, and its cloaking device is substandard (ostensibly due to the ship's size). It doesn't help that, since Cryptic [[InsistentTerminology calls it a "battle cruiser" even though it's really a cruiser]], conventional Federation-style cruiser with a Klingon skin]], when cruiser commands debuted the Bort didn't get the "Attract Fire" command that Starfleet cruisers get (although threat generation isn't all that useful in the metagame anyway).
31st Jan '16 5:40:07 PM Blazer
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*** On that subject, exclusivity period. The idea to have any sort of items that can only be obtained by certain dedicated players tends to lead to head-butting between players. The major argument made by players is that, if they do not have readily available access to one item or another, then it makes their character useless. There's also the argument that new players and players who are away at that time are being "punished" for not having played at that point of time and thus they are shut out from those items and ships forever and thus forever "weaker" than the rest of the player base.

** Exclusivity towards holiday-based and Anniversary-based ships. While the mission-based ships (the 9-slot ''Odyssey'' and ''Bortasqu''[='=], the ''Ambassador'' and ''Kamarang'' and the ''Obelisk'') aren't missed at all due to their better versions existing, the other ships, such as the Risan Corvette and Luxury Cruiser and the Kobali Samsar Cruiser are, with frustration growing after the retiring of the Risa-earned ships and the Breen ship collection. Some fans understand it and even point out that there were warnings that they would be retired at one point. Others feel this is Cryptic being pissy because fans aren't playing it their way, even going so far as to say that they're being removed because they [[OvershadowedByAwesome are better than most ships available]] and they take away money from Cryptic. There are many who want Cryptic to just put the retired ships in the Lobi Store, feeling that they would be wonderful money-making additions.
29th Jan '16 7:37:43 PM Blazer
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** The mission "Time and Tide" got a bit of a mixed reception when it was released. The main gripe is that it's not only a time travel story, it's about the Temporal Cold War, a storyline many ''Trek'' fans hate because of how it bogged down ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. Others find it interesting and hope to see if Cryptic can make it a better story. The other gripe is [[spoiler:Noye's FaceHeelTurn and [[LoveMakesYouEvil the reasons why.]] Some find it sympathetic and understandable and some thing it's stupid.
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** The mission "Time and Tide" got a bit of a mixed reception when it was released. The main gripe is that it's not only a time travel story, it's about the Temporal Cold War, a storyline many ''Trek'' fans hate because of how it bogged down ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. Others find it interesting and hope to see if Cryptic can make it a better story. The other gripe is [[spoiler:Noye's FaceHeelTurn and [[LoveMakesYouEvil the reasons why.why]].]] Some find it sympathetic and understandable and some thing think it's stupid.
29th Jan '16 7:54:24 AM Blazer
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** The mission "Time and Tide" got a bit of a mixed reception when it was released. The main gripe is that it's not only a time travel story, it's about the Temporal Cold War, a storyline many ''Trek'' fans hate because of how it bogged down ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. Others find it interesting and hope to see if Cryptic can make it a better story. The other gripe is [[spoiler:Noye's FaceHeelTurn and [[LoveMakesYouEvil the reasons why.]] Some find it sympathetic and understandable and some thing it's stupid.
20th Jan '16 8:07:40 PM Blazer
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** The revelation that the ''Defiant'' ships will have its three-piece console/weapon set modified to grant it Battle Cloak when all three are together. There are some who are very happy that it's happening and some who just see this as a waste, mostly from the DPS side of things. There are also a number of KDF/RR players who are angry that the Federation side has ''another'' power that they have, which they feel ultimately make them obsolete.
13th Jan '16 7:22:18 PM CharlesPhipps
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** Is D'Tan a genuine reformer who is doing what he feels is best for his people and honestly wants friendship with both of the remaining Alpha/Beta Quadrant superpowers (the official interpretation), a [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1070281 traitor to the Romulan way of life]], or a [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=933241 particularly shrewd manipulator]] who is PlayingBothSides to improve the Romulans' situation?
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** Is D'Tan a genuine reformer who is doing what he feels is best for his people and honestly wants friendship with both of the remaining Alpha/Beta Quadrant superpowers (the official interpretation), a [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1070281 traitor to the Romulan way of life]], life, or a [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=933241 particularly shrewd manipulator]] manipulator who is PlayingBothSides to improve the Romulans' situation?

** Based on what the Talaxian extras are doing in "Reunion" (sitting around drinking, trading shifts to the point where nobody knows who's supposed to be on duty when, leaving spices lying around all over the place, etc.), jonsills and worffan101 reinterpreted Neelix as the OnlySaneMan among a race of slackers (to the extent where he's sincerely ''trying'' to be helpful and just isn't very good at it). [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1276201 Worffan even adapted it into a fanfic.]]
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** Based on what the Talaxian extras are doing in "Reunion" (sitting around drinking, trading shifts to the point where nobody knows who's supposed to be on duty when, leaving spices lying around all over the place, etc.), jonsills and worffan101 reinterpreted Neelix as the OnlySaneMan among a race of slackers (to the extent where he's sincerely ''trying'' to be helpful and just isn't very good at it). [[http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1276201 Worffan even adapted it into a fanfic.]]
23rd Dec '15 2:58:43 PM Blazer
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The fate of the T6 Excelsior, Galaxy-X and Defiant. The T6 Excelsior only only gains an extra BOFF power to its Lt. Engineer seat, thus making it virtually the same as the T6 Galaxy minus the universal Ensign. The T6 Galaxy-X has the ''same'' BOFF layout as the T6 Galaxy, making it the only reason you would get a T6 Gal-X is for completion purposes. The T6 Defiant suffers from the heavy usage of Tactical BOFF seats that the T5 version does, with rings being ran around it by the Pilot Ships and the T6 Prometheus.
23rd Dec '15 10:12:52 AM StarSword
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** Theoretically the main reason for the Federation-Klingon War is that the Federation is heavily infiltrated by the Undine. However, in the KDF storyline the Undine aren't even mentioned until you get to the "Cloaked Intentions" episode (where the Fedside fiasco on P'Jem gets a throwaway mention while you're decoding some Tal Shiar files). Couple that with the war having ''actually'' started when the Klingons decided to return to their conquistador days and started attacking Federation colonies, and one starts to wonder if the Undine infiltration isn't really just a convenient PretextForWar.\\
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** Theoretically the main reason for the Federation-Klingon War is that the Federation is heavily infiltrated by the Undine. However, in the KDF storyline the Undine aren't even mentioned until you get to the "Cloaked Intentions" episode (where the Fedside fiasco on P'Jem gets a throwaway mention while you're decoding some Tal Shiar files). Couple that with the war having ''actually'' started when the Klingons decided to return to their conquistador days and started attacking Federation colonies, and the fact that J'mpok had been agitating for war with the Federation since 2387, and one starts to wonder if the Undine infiltration isn't really just a convenient PretextForWar.\\
12th Dec '15 1:47:49 PM Mitchz95
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This fits way better under WMG
** The entire game - a continuation of events post ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' or a holodeck program for Starfleet Academy recruits (going by the "Holodeck" server name). A lot of players use the latter to justify a number of things that doesn't mesh well with their interpretation of ''Star Trek'', including a player's meteoric rise in the ranks, a Federation officer mowing down various races and the idea that usually more cunning and backstabbing Romulans would ''want'' to play fair with the Federation and the Klingons.
12th Dec '15 12:26:36 PM Blazer
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** The entire game - a continuation of events post ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' or a holodeck program for Starfleet Academy recruits (going by the "Holodeck" server name)
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** The entire game - a continuation of events post ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' or a holodeck program for Starfleet Academy recruits (going by the "Holodeck" server name)name). A lot of players use the latter to justify a number of things that doesn't mesh well with their interpretation of ''Star Trek'', including a player's meteoric rise in the ranks, a Federation officer mowing down various races and the idea that usually more cunning and backstabbing Romulans would ''want'' to play fair with the Federation and the Klingons.
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