History YMMV / StarTrekNovelVerse

28th Mar '16 2:37:11 PM MagBas
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* MarySue: Sonek Pran of ''A Singular Destiny'', so very much. Exotic racial background? He's actually 1/4 Human, 1/4 Bajoran, 1/4 Betazoid and 1/4 Vulcan, plus he has the distinctive Bajoran nose, Betazoid eyes and Vulcan ears. Crazy connections to other characters? He's been an advisor to many Federation presidents, and the Empress of the Imperial Romulan State knows of him somewhat through his reputation as a ''folk musician''. Uber-skills? Why he's the only man who can negotiate tricky situations and he serves as the mentor to Ezri Dax.

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* MarySue: Sonek Pran of ''A Singular Destiny'', so very much. Exotic racial background? He's actually 1/4 Human, 1/4 Bajoran, 1/4 Betazoid and 1/4 Vulcan, plus he has the distinctive Bajoran nose, Betazoid eyes and Vulcan ears. Crazy connections to other characters? He's been an advisor to many Federation presidents, and the Empress of the Imperial Romulan State knows of him somewhat through his reputation as a ''folk musician''. Uber-skills? Why he's the only man who can negotiate tricky situations and he serves as the mentor to Ezri Dax.

20th Feb '15 7:48:08 PM jormis29
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Killing off [[spoiler:Kathryn Janeway]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheNextGenerationRelaunch Before Dishonor]]'' and wrecking much of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants in ''Literature/StarTrekDestiny'' (along with [[BittersweetEnding even more losses]]) was [[WhamEpisode pretty serious stuff in its own right]], but the Trek novel universe has proceeded to [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism veer quickly and deeply]] into CrapsackWorld territory with [[spoiler:the destruction of Deep Space Nine and the Bajoran Wormhole]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTyphonPact Typhon Pact]]'' and [[spoiler:the gradual collapse of the Federation]] as of ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheFall The Fall]]''. The ConflictBall and AppleOfDiscord now [[RuleOfDrama fuel the novel series]] to [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow such an extent]] that the AlternateContinuity of ''StarTrekOnline'', for all of its own [[ForeverWar constant warfare]], is actually LighterAndSofter by comparison.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Killing off [[spoiler:Kathryn Janeway]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheNextGenerationRelaunch Before Dishonor]]'' and wrecking much of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants in ''Literature/StarTrekDestiny'' (along with [[BittersweetEnding even more losses]]) was [[WhamEpisode pretty serious stuff in its own right]], but the Trek novel universe has proceeded to [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism veer quickly and deeply]] into CrapsackWorld territory with [[spoiler:the destruction of Deep Space Nine and the Bajoran Wormhole]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTyphonPact Typhon Pact]]'' and [[spoiler:the gradual collapse of the Federation]] as of ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheFall The Fall]]''. The ConflictBall and AppleOfDiscord now [[RuleOfDrama fuel the novel series]] to [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow such an extent]] that the AlternateContinuity of ''StarTrekOnline'', ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', for all of its own [[ForeverWar constant warfare]], is actually LighterAndSofter by comparison.



** President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel, ''StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation''.

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** President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel, ''StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation''.''Literature/StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation''.



** FridgeLogic #2: To build starships, one needs language more precise and less ambiguous than metaphors. But this too is [[AllThereInTheManual all explained in]] the StarTrekNovelVerse. Tamarian mathematical and musical notations are very closely linked. Tamarian engineers and programmers sing equations, transferring instructions through music. Even in ordinary speech, numerical information can be conveyed through the pitch of a Tamarianís vocal harmonics, though it can be hard for untrained Human ears to discern the nuances, just as it can be hard for an English speaker to learn to hear Chinese tones.

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** FridgeLogic #2: To build starships, one needs language more precise and less ambiguous than metaphors. But this too is [[AllThereInTheManual all explained in]] the StarTrekNovelVerse.''Star Trek Novel Verse''. Tamarian mathematical and musical notations are very closely linked. Tamarian engineers and programmers sing equations, transferring instructions through music. Even in ordinary speech, numerical information can be conveyed through the pitch of a Tamarianís vocal harmonics, though it can be hard for untrained Human ears to discern the nuances, just as it can be hard for an English speaker to learn to hear Chinese tones.



** [[spoiler: Owen Paris' last message to Tom in StarTrekDestiny]].

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** [[spoiler: Owen Paris' last message to Tom in StarTrekDestiny]].Literature/StarTrekDestiny]].
13th Jul '14 7:26:51 PM TheFellMind
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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the [[spoiler: wormhole]] reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced [[spoiler: Deep Space Nine]] replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld" - especially when war has been consistently avoided (Borg aside, and they're more a force of nature than a nation).
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Torvig Bu-kar-nguv of ''Literature/StarTrekTitan''. Possibly President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel (StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation).

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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] [[spoiler:Janeway]] returned, the [[spoiler: wormhole]] [[spoiler:wormhole]] reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced [[spoiler: Deep [[spoiler:Deep Space Nine]] replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld" - especially when war has been consistently avoided (Borg aside, and they're more a force of nature than a nation).
*** In short, an AuthorsSavingThrow, for now. However, at the very least, that moderate and diplomatic new Romulan government is going to get [[OutOfTheFryingPan torn to pieces]] as soon as the Novel Verse's continuity catches up to [[Film/StarTrek the Hobus supernova destroying Romulus and Remus]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Torvig Bu-kar-nguv of ''Literature/StarTrekTitan''. Possibly ''Literature/StarTrekTitan''.
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President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel (StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation).novel, ''StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation''.
25th Apr '14 8:14:57 AM Nasat
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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the wormhole reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced Deep Space Nine replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld" - especially when war has been consistently avoided (Borg aside, and they're more a force of nature than a nation).

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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the wormhole [[spoiler: wormhole]] reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced [[spoiler: Deep Space Nine Nine]] replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld" - especially when war has been consistently avoided (Borg aside, and they're more a force of nature than a nation).
25th Apr '14 8:13:31 AM Nasat
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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the wormhole reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced Deep Space Nine replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld".

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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the wormhole reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced Deep Space Nine replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld". "CrapsackWorld" - especially when war has been consistently avoided (Borg aside, and they're more a force of nature than a nation).
25th Apr '14 8:12:08 AM Nasat
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** As an alternative view, [[spoiler: Janeway]] returned, the wormhole reopened, Bajor is a powerful and prosperous Federation member, a second more advanced Deep Space Nine replaced the lost one, the same devastating conflict in ''Destiny'' also liberated the Borg and freed billions from oppression, and in doing so removed the biggest blight to Trek 'verse civilization, the Federation has held together, rebuilt and reaffirmed itself in spite of everything, and inspired the Typhon Pact nations to start to overcome their histories of xenophobia and isolation on top of that, the Andorians are cured of their genetic problems, the Cardassians and Ferengi have the best governments they've ever had and are now official allies of the Federation, the Romulans have a moderate and diplomatically adept government, the Federation has slipstream drive and is penetrating all four quadrants, and Starfleet is starting to turn back to exploration again. Also, political instability and uncertainty isn't, others might say, anywhere near "CrapsackWorld".
31st Mar '14 9:46:04 AM TheFellMind
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Killing off [[spoiler:Kathryn Janeway]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheNextGenerationRelaunch Before Dishonor]]'' and wrecking much of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants in ''Literature/StarTrekDestiny'' (along with [[BittersweetEnding even more losses]]) was [[WhamEpisode pretty serious stuff in its own right]], but the Trek novel universe has proceeded to [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism veer quickly and deeply]] into CrapsackWorld territory with [[spoiler:the destruction of Deep Space Nine and the Bajoran Wormhole]] in ''[[Literature/StarTrekTyphonPact Typhon Pact]]'' and [[spoiler:the gradual collapse of the Federation]] as of ''[[Literature/StarTrekTheFall The Fall]]''. The ConflictBall and AppleOfDiscord now [[RuleOfDrama fuel the novel series]] to [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow such an extent]] that the AlternateContinuity of ''StarTrekOnline'', for all of its own [[ForeverWar constant warfare]], is actually LighterAndSofter by comparison.
18th Mar '14 8:17:50 PM StarSword
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Torvig Bu-kar-nguv of StarTrekTitan. Possibly President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel (StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation).

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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: EnsembleDarkhorse: Torvig Bu-kar-nguv of StarTrekTitan.''Literature/StarTrekTitan''. Possibly President Nanietta Bacco, who went from a "the president resigned last book so we need a new president" character to a popular character carrying her own West Wing-style political novel (StarTrekArticlesOfTheFederation).
23rd Aug '13 1:45:10 PM TVRulezAgain
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* {{Complete Monster}}: Gothmara, Qagh.
12th Jun '13 3:24:50 PM TVRulezAgain
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** FridgeLogic #2: To build starships, one needs language more precise and less ambiguous than metaphors. But this too is [[AllThereInTheManual all explained in]] the StarTrekNovelVerse. Tamarian mathematical and musical notations are very closely linked. Tamarian engineers and programmers literally sing equations, transferring instructions through music. Even in ordinary speech, numerical information can be conveyed through the pitch of a Tamarianís vocal harmonics, though it can be hard for untrained Human ears to discern the nuances, just as it can be hard for an English speaker to learn to hear Chinese tones.

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** FridgeLogic #2: To build starships, one needs language more precise and less ambiguous than metaphors. But this too is [[AllThereInTheManual all explained in]] the StarTrekNovelVerse. Tamarian mathematical and musical notations are very closely linked. Tamarian engineers and programmers literally sing equations, transferring instructions through music. Even in ordinary speech, numerical information can be conveyed through the pitch of a Tamarianís vocal harmonics, though it can be hard for untrained Human ears to discern the nuances, just as it can be hard for an English speaker to learn to hear Chinese tones.
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