History YMMV / StarTrekIntoDarkness

2nd May '16 9:56:17 PM Toadofsteel
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** Even if you go into it knowing Harrison is Khan, he doesn't have the back history with Kirk that their prime counterparts had. Kirk was willing to work with Khan in this universe, and they both obviously had a beef with Admiral Marcus. Preserving this EnemyMine through the whole plot and making Marcus the primary villain would have made an interesting twist on a classic Trek plot moving forward.
19th Apr '16 1:42:27 PM VoiceInTheWasteland
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** Science officer [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/d/d0/Science_officer_0718.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130606102047&path-prefix=en 0718]], the [[BaldOfAwesome completely bald]] cyborg crew member. He also has almost no lines, but with his [[BadassBaritone deep robot voice]], piercing blue eyes, and cybernetic implants in the back of his head, he certainly made quite an impression for a lot of people.
4th Apr '16 7:39:31 PM Eagal
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Kirk's closing speech, in which he states that no matter how intimidating or threatening our enemies may be, you do not give in to the same fear and hatred they live by. It's not very subtle, and different viewers have different ideas about its effectiveness, but [[DontShootTheMessage the message underneath is sound]].
4th Apr '16 7:36:47 PM Eagal
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* {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm: As is the tradition with Star Trek, there are scenes that worked for some people and failed for others.

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* {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm: NarmCharm: As is the tradition with Star Trek, there are scenes that worked failed for some people and failed worked for others.
4th Apr '16 7:35:51 PM Eagal
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Well, all of it, but special mention goes to the ultimate TearJerker, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6owMBdM4Fq4 "Buying the Space Farm"]].
4th Apr '16 7:35:29 PM Eagal
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler: turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[{{EntertaininglyWrong}} too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth - a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was ment to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart / WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in it's favor.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler: turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[{{EntertaininglyWrong}} too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth - a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was ment meant to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart / WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in it's favor.
25th Feb '16 10:26:42 PM 88y53
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler: turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[{{EntertaininglyWrong}} too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth - a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was ment to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart / WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in it's favor.
16th Feb '16 11:39:56 AM Pren
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* NeverLiveItDown: Poor J. J. Abrams gets {{misblamed}} for lying about [[spoiler:Harrison being Khan]] when it was really Paramount that enforced. That he absolutely '''''hated''''' lying about the unnecessary plot twist was conveniently ignored in favor of labeling him as a constantly LyingCreator. It got so bad that people mistakenly used the debacle as an excuse to presume that Abrams was lying about '''anything and everything''' leading up to ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'', leading to a whole lot of FanWank.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Poor J. J. Abrams gets {{misblamed}} for lying about [[spoiler:Harrison being Khan]] when it was really Paramount that enforced. That he absolutely '''''hated''''' lying about the unnecessary plot twist was conveniently ignored in favor of labeling him as a constantly LyingCreator. It got so bad that people mistakenly used the debacle as an excuse to presume that Abrams was lying about '''anything and everything''' leading up to ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'', leading to a whole lot of FanWank. A few years later, Damon Lindeloff admitted that they'd vastly underestimated how quickly fans could multisource theories in this day and age, and they should have just come clean when everyone figured it out.
4th Feb '16 2:35:50 AM TitoMosquito
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* BetterOnDVD: Kirk's [[CharacterDevelopment Character Arc]] works best when watching the two films back-to-back. ''Into Darkness'' makes several CallBacks to Kirk's previous conflict with Spock, especially when it comes to his coming to terms with his own mortality during a "No-Win Scenario." A lot of this got missed, especially considering there was a 4-year gap between the release of both films.

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* BetterOnDVD: Kirk's [[CharacterDevelopment Character Arc]] works best when watching the two films back-to-back. ''Into Darkness'' makes several CallBacks {{Call Back}}s to Kirk's previous conflict with Spock, especially when it comes to his coming to terms with his own mortality during a "No-Win Scenario." A lot of this got missed, especially considering there was a 4-year gap between the release of both films.
27th Jan '16 5:32:04 PM Eagal
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* {{Allegory}}: Some critics believe that this film is an allegory for 9/11 conspiracies. Detailed [[http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2013/09/11/how-star-trek-into-darkness-is-a-crypto-truther-conspiracy-movie "here"]]; in short the insider attacks on [[spoiler:Section 31]] and [[spoiler: Starfleet Command]] are used in an attempt to justify a foreign war with an innocent enemy [[spoiler: the Klingons as a stand in for Iraq/Afghanistan]]. In addition script writer Robert Orci is known to believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories and used Twitter feed to spread them.
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