History YMMV / StarTrekIntoDarkness

4th Aug '17 8:20:18 PM Retloclive
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* NeverLiveItDown: Poor Creator/JJAbrams gets {{misblamed}} for lying about [[spoiler:Harrison being Khan]] when it was really Paramount that enforced. That he absolutely '''''hated''''' lying about the unnecessary plot twist was conveniently ignored in favor of labeling him as a constantly LyingCreator. It got so bad that people mistakenly used the debacle as an excuse to presume that Abrams was lying about '''anything and everything''' leading up to ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'', leading to a whole lot of FanWank. A few years later, Damon Lindeloff admitted that they'd vastly underestimated how quickly fans could multisource theories in this day and age, and they should have just come clean when everyone figured it out.

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* NeverLiveItDown: NeverLiveItDown:
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Poor Creator/JJAbrams gets {{misblamed}} for lying about [[spoiler:Harrison being Khan]] when it was really Paramount that enforced. That he absolutely '''''hated''''' lying about the unnecessary plot twist was conveniently ignored in favor of labeling him as a constantly LyingCreator. It got so bad that people mistakenly used the debacle as an excuse to presume that Abrams was lying about '''anything and everything''' leading up to ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'', leading to a whole lot of FanWank. A few years later, Damon Lindeloff admitted that they'd vastly underestimated how quickly fans could multisource theories in this day and age, and they should have just come clean when everyone figured it out.out.
** ''Into Darkness'' is often ridiculed for being the movie that tried to capitalize on [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan a previous film]] by basing almost its entire final act on it.
** This film will also never live down making death trivial due to the poorly implemented [[ChekhovsGun tribble]] plot-device.
9th Jun '17 8:38:25 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: There is never any reason given for Carol to be changing in front of Kirk in the middle of a conversation, and it's never mentioned again. It seems to exist just for the trailer.
3rd Jun '17 12:48:39 PM Willy2537
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* HarsherInHindsight: The "go put on a red shirt" moment doesn't have the same humorous tone after Anton Yelchin's untimely death.

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The "go put on a red shirt" moment doesn't have the same humorous tone after Anton Yelchin's untimely death.death.
** James T. Kirk's [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice to save the ''Enterprise'' was a tear-jerking moment, but thankfully it is temporary. Comes 2017 in [[Film/WonderWoman2017 an unrelated movie]], Chris Pine starred as another character who also pulled a heroic sacrifice in a flying craft for the needs of the many, but this time he's KilledOffForReal. The person who witnessed his death also screams in anguish just like Spock did in this movie.]]
19th May '17 12:38:05 AM Tuckerscreator
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** Despite its writers' {{Anvilicious}} attempts to decry militarization and aggression, quite a few people who saw the movie ended up rooting for [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Alexander Marcus]]]] and his goal in militarizing Starfleet for a war against the Klingon Empire. Seemingly, [[spoiler:Marcus']] only detraction is that he went about it in the manner of a standard GeneralRipper, to the point that he brought [[spoiler:[[BigBad Khan]], an infamous genetically engineered warlord that nearly took over the Earth long ago, out of [[HumanPopsicle cold storage]] to utilize as a slave ([[TooDumbToLive thinking he could actually control Khan]])]], as well as attempted to purposely start said war with the Klingons (using the oblivious crew of the ''Enterprise'' to do so no less) as opposed to letting it happen naturally.Even [[spoiler:Marcus']] actor [[spoiler:Creator/PeterWeller]] [[WordOfStPaul roots for his character, saying he disliked how the public viewed him as a villain and has this to say about him]].

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** Despite its writers' {{Anvilicious}} attempts to decry militarization and aggression, quite a few people who saw the movie ended up rooting for [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Alexander Marcus]]]] and his goal in militarizing Starfleet for a war against the Klingon Empire. Seemingly, [[spoiler:Marcus']] only detraction is that he went about it in the manner of a standard GeneralRipper, to the point that he brought [[spoiler:[[BigBad Khan]], an infamous genetically engineered warlord that nearly took over the Earth long ago, out of [[HumanPopsicle cold storage]] to utilize as a slave ([[TooDumbToLive thinking he could actually control Khan]])]], as well as attempted to purposely start said war with the Klingons (using the oblivious crew of the ''Enterprise'' to do so no less) as opposed to letting it happen naturally. Even [[spoiler:Marcus']] actor [[spoiler:Creator/PeterWeller]] [[WordOfStPaul roots for his character, saying he disliked how the public viewed him as a villain and has this to say about him]].
27th Apr '17 5:25:02 PM Tork
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** The underwear scene was prominent in the trailer, hence the notice.


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* HarsherInHindsight: The "go put on a red shirt" moment doesn't have the same humorous tone after Anton Yelchin's untimely death.
20th Apr '17 9:45:55 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise: In contrast to the smooth tones of a typical Federation vessel's warp drive, the ''Vengeance'' has a harsh buzzing noise. Strangely enough, [[NightmareFetishist some audiences]] also found the noise to qualify as SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound.
2nd Feb '17 6:21:52 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler:turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[EntertaininglyWrong too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was meant to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart[=/=]WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in its favor.
** Even if you go into it knowing Harrison is Khan, he doesn't have the back history with Kirk that their prime counterparts had. Kirk was willing to work with Khan in this universe, and they both obviously had a beef with Admiral Marcus. Preserving this EnemyMine through the whole plot and making Marcus the primary villain would have made an interesting twist on a classic Trek plot moving forward.

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There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler:turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[EntertaininglyWrong too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was meant to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart[=/=]WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in its favor.
** Even if you go into it knowing Harrison is Khan, he doesn't have the back history with Kirk that their prime counterparts had. Kirk was willing to work with Khan in this universe, and they both obviously had a beef with Admiral Marcus. Preserving this EnemyMine through the whole plot and making Marcus the primary villain would have made an interesting twist on a classic Trek plot moving forward. forward.
** While the revelation about Harrison being Khan was a clever twist, this version of the character loses much of what made him so fascinating in the original timeline, for two main reasons:
*** In his introduction, Khan's entire premise was that he was an infamous tyrant and mass murderer from the 21st century whose reign of terror had made him one of history's most famous monsters--on par with Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler. By confronting him, the ''Enterprise'' crew was also confronting the enduring specter of the brutal 21st century, and the reminder that [[BadFuture human history had to take some really, really dark turns]] before humanity earned its place in the stars. But in this version, so much effort is put into ensuring that the characters ''don't'' recognize Khan that he loses that element entirely; he gets all of his {{Establishing Character Moment}}s as the rogue Starfleet officer "John Harrison", with almost no time left to flesh him out as the fascistic cult leader Khan.
*** In ''The Wrath of Khan'', a key element in Khan's story was that he [[FatalFlaw met his downfall]] thanks to his {{pride}}: he assumed that his genetically augmented strength and intelligence meant that he could never be beaten in battle, so he was cocky enough to challenge Kirk to a one-on-one starship battle--even though he came from a time before starship combat, and had never been trained in space tactics. He forgot that his enhanced genes only amounted to ''potential'', and couldn't compensate for his lack of experience, which the seasoned veteran Kirk had in spades. But in this version, Khan actually gets trained in starship combat by Admiral Marcus, he beats Kirk in a space battle because he has a better ship, and he's defeated with GoodOldFisticuffs; his ultimate downfall has none of the thematic resonance that it originally had, and overall isn't nearly as interesting.
6th Jan '17 4:23:56 AM SorPepita
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler:turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[EntertaininglyWrong too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was meant to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart[=/=]WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in it's favor.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There were some fans who thought that John Harrison [[spoiler:turning out to be Khan]] was ''way'' [[EntertaininglyWrong too obvious]], and theorised that he was in fact the Klingon captain, Koloth a human-looking Klingon from the original series that was meant to be Kirk's EvilCounterpart[=/=]WorthyOpponent. One can even take this a step further and watch the film with that in mind, and the story is essentially the same and it actually works in it's its favor.
11th Dec '16 3:04:17 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* MemeticMutation: Comparing [[spoiler:Khan crushing Marcus' skull]] with the scene in ''Series/GameOfThrones'' where [[spoiler:the Mountain crushes Oberyn's skull]].

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Comparing [[spoiler:Khan crushing Marcus' skull]] with the scene in ''Series/GameOfThrones'' where [[spoiler:the Mountain crushes Oberyn's skull]].skull]].
** Pronouncing the title as written (no pause between "Star Trek" and "Into Darkness") shows up as a gag in nearly every online video about the movie.
16th Oct '16 8:01:09 PM jogirard
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Kirk promotes Chekov to Chief Engineer, he tells him to "Go put on a red shirt," referencing one of the [[RedShirt most famous tropes of all time]]. [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Chekov's face is priceless]], and the scene was [[PlayedforLaughs played for laughs]] in the theater, but it definitely takes on a much darker tone after Anton Yelchin's untimely death in June 2016.
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