History YMMV / SpyroTheDragon

14th Feb '18 11:49:12 PM NaraNumas
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** Haunted Towers from the same game has a whole area which is entpe policies. As BrokenBase below points out, people who are fans of the Classic series aren't a fan of Legends characters while people who are fans of the Legend series aren't fans of the Classic series characters. To put it frank; the ''only'' characters you're likely to not find people complaining about, characterization wise or otherwise, in this fandom are Flame and Bianca.

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** Haunted Towers from the same game has a whole area which is entirely hidden from the rest of the level - and again, only a difficult and not-hinted-at supercharge will lead you there.
** ''Spyro 2'' has Fracture Hills, a level that contains a notably frustrating EscortMission. Annoyingly, if you beat it at the first opportunity, you won't be able to complete the subsequent mission until you've unlocked the Headbash - forcing you to come back to the level and replay the EscortMission at a later date.
** The flight levels/speedways can also be frustrating until you are familiar with their layout - the flight levels in the first game are particularly difficult, but they got easier in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' (where there is a clear optimal route for taking out obstacles, and in ''YOTD'', Sparx outright tells you the order to tackle them).
** Lost Fleet's skateboard challenges.
* ThatOnePuzzle: The seed-planting challenges in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' require quite a bit more strategic thinking than usual. The one in ''YOTD'' is particularly troublesome, because even when you know what to do, it requires some very difficult jumps.
* ThatOneSidequest:
** The yeti boxing match in ''YOTD''. Hoo boy. Learning a completely new and bizarre boxing layout against an opponent with no discernible pattern. And you have to do it twice, second time takes 3 rounds.
** The rather annoying challenge in ''YOTD'' has Spyro swimming in the long tunnel at super speed to get to the dead-end where the egg is at and if you got hit by a wall or a rhynoc, you'll have to start all over again. Have fun.
** Also in ''YOTD'', Fireworks Factory has two of the eggs titled [[LampshadeHanging "You're doomed."]] ''"You're still doomed."'', for good reason [[spoiler: (you have to kill ninjas with Agent 9. which is harder than it sounds, despite Agent 9 being a [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkey]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot with a space suit and wielding a laser gun]])]]. The "doomed" part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though Doom isn't considered an easy game.
** The speedways. Those Goddamn speedways.
** As above, the EscortMission in Fracture Hills. It involves escorting the Alchemist past all the Earthshapers without him getting hit by an angry rockman. The main issue here is that the Alchemist takes the most dangerous path by walking by as many Earthshapers as possible. He even tries to fake the player out at the last one, for no reason other than to make you lose at the last second. The extra salt in the wound is that he doesn't ''need'' to walk this much, as there's nothing stopping him from just walking around the whole course by making a left out of his hut.
* VindicatedByHistory: In the late 1990s and early 2000s, this series was snark bait amongst "hardcore" gamers due to being another 3D platformer, and being geared at a younger audience than many other [=PS1=] titles. As the little kids of yesterday became the gaming audience of the late 2000s and 2010s, it's become fondly remembered and seen as one of the better [=PlayStation=] franchises.

!!The games released between the classic and ''The Legend of Spyro'' trilogies of:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ember and Flame, thanks to being the few dragons around Spyro's age in the entire franchise. Even a few Classic trilogy only purist wouldn't mind them being adopted into "official" canon if Insomniac ever makes another Spyro game.
* OneSceneWonder: The Ice Princess, who has a very charming design and attracted a small fandom, appears only to give the player a single mission in ''A Hero's Tail''.
* ThatOneLevel: The second Hunter level in ''A Hero's Tail''. WHY WOULD YOU PUT TEMPLE OF DOOM OBSTACLES WHERE SPYRO CAN'T GLIDE PAST THEM?!?


!!''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro''
* [[YMMV/TheLegendOfSpyro Listed here]]

!!All
* AbandonShipping: Spyro X Elora is almost never shipped anymore in the fandom, regardless of continuity. While there are still ''some'' out there, these days, it's mostly been replaced by Spyro X Cynder or Spyro X Ember, albeit not without some reasonings. [[note]]Namely, in addition to the massive species gap between the two, many point out that Spyro's implied age of twelve in the original games and Elora's late teenage appears gives the pairing slight [[PaedoHunt paedo]] undertones...[[/note]]
* AdaptationDisplacement: Younger fans of ''Skylanders'' might be surprised to learn Spyro was the star of his own game and following series for quite some time prior to ''Skylanders''
* BaseBreakingCharacter: [[UpToEleven We'd be tempted to say 'everyone' and call it a day]] if it weren't for it being against Trope
entpe policies. As BrokenBase below points out, people who are fans of the Classic series aren't a fan of Legends characters while people who are fans of the Legend series aren't fans of the Classic series characters. To put it frank; the ''only'' characters you're likely to not find people complaining about, characterization wise or otherwise, in this fandom are Flame and Bianca.
14th Feb '18 11:45:49 PM NaraNumas
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* PopularWithFurries: Unsurprisingly, the game's premise as playing as a dragon created a lot of childhood fans that joined the furry fandom who will often cite the game as a major, -if not ''the'' - reasoning for kicking off their interest in other works that draw interest in furries. This got a huge boost with ''Legacy of Spyro'' didn't help this by introducing a female dragon love-interest with a popular evil form, and a cute normal form. This doesn't even stop at dragon fans, as there's plenty of animal characters as well (Hunter the Cheetah and Bianca being the most well-known).

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* PopularWithFurries: Unsurprisingly, the game's premise as playing as a dragon created a lot of childhood fans that joined the furry fandom who will often cite the game as a major, -if not ''the'' - reasoning for kicking off their interest in other works that draw interest in furries. This got a huge boost with ''Legacy of Spyro'' didn't help this by introducing a female dragon love-interest with a popular evil form, form (And, by intent or not, a lot of the classic trilogy fans were teenage furries who found her attractive), and a cute normal form. This doesn't even stop at dragon fans, as there's plenty of animal characters as well (Hunter the Cheetah and Bianca being the most well-known).
14th Feb '18 11:34:49 PM NaraNumas
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** Haunted Towers from the same game has a whole area which is entirely hidden from the rest of the level - and again, only a difficult and not-hinted-at supercharge will lead you there.
** ''Spyro 2'' has Fracture Hills, a level that contains a notably frustrating EscortMission. Annoyingly, if you beat it at the first opportunity, you won't be able to complete the subsequent mission until you've unlocked the Headbash - forcing you to come back to the level and replay the EscortMission at a later date.
** The flight levels/speedways can also be frustrating until you are familiar with their layout - the flight levels in the first game are particularly difficult, but they got easier in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' (where there is a clear optimal route for taking out obstacles, and in ''YOTD'', Sparx outright tells you the order to tackle them).
** Lost Fleet's skateboard challenges.
* ThatOnePuzzle: The seed-planting challenges in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' require quite a bit more strategic thinking than usual. The one in ''YOTD'' is particularly troublesome, because even when you know what to do, it requires some very difficult jumps.
* ThatOneSidequest:
** The yeti boxing match in ''YOTD''. Hoo boy. Learning a completely new and bizarre boxing layout against an opponent with no discernible pattern. And you have to do it twice, second time takes 3 rounds.
** The rather annoying challenge in ''YOTD'' has Spyro swimming in the long tunnel at super speed to get to the dead-end where the egg is at and if you got hit by a wall or a rhynoc, you'll have to start all over again. Have fun.
** Also in ''YOTD'', Fireworks Factory has two of the eggs titled [[LampshadeHanging "You're doomed."]] ''"You're still doomed."'', for good reason [[spoiler: (you have to kill ninjas with Agent 9. which is harder than it sounds, despite Agent 9 being a [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkey]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot with a space suit and wielding a laser gun]])]]. The "doomed" part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though Doom isn't considered an easy game.
** The speedways. Those Goddamn speedways.
** As above, the EscortMission in Fracture Hills. It involves escorting the Alchemist past all the Earthshapers without him getting hit by an angry rockman. The main issue here is that the Alchemist takes the most dangerous path by walking by as many Earthshapers as possible. He even tries to fake the player out at the last one, for no reason other than to make you lose at the last second. The extra salt in the wound is that he doesn't ''need'' to walk this much, as there's nothing stopping him from just walking around the whole course by making a left out of his hut.
* VindicatedByHistory: In the late 1990s and early 2000s, this series was snark bait amongst "hardcore" gamers due to being another 3D platformer, and being geared at a younger audience than many other [=PS1=] titles. As the little kids of yesterday became the gaming audience of the late 2000s and 2010s, it's become fondly remembered and seen as one of the better [=PlayStation=] franchises.

!!The games released between the classic and ''The Legend of Spyro'' trilogies of:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ember and Flame, thanks to being the few dragons around Spyro's age in the entire franchise. Even a few Classic trilogy only purist wouldn't mind them being adopted into "official" canon if Insomniac ever makes another Spyro game.
* OneSceneWonder: The Ice Princess, who has a very charming design and attracted a small fandom, appears only to give the player a single mission in ''A Hero's Tail''.
* ThatOneLevel: The second Hunter level in ''A Hero's Tail''. WHY WOULD YOU PUT TEMPLE OF DOOM OBSTACLES WHERE SPYRO CAN'T GLIDE PAST THEM?!?


!!''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro''
* [[YMMV/TheLegendOfSpyro Listed here]]

!!All
* AbandonShipping: Spyro X Elora is almost never shipped anymore in the fandom, regardless of continuity. While there are still ''some'' out there, these days, it's mostly been replaced by Spyro X Cynder or Spyro X Ember, albeit not without some reasonings. [[note]]Namely, in addition to the massive species gap between the two, many point out that Spyro's implied age of twelve in the original games and Elora's late teenage appears gives the pairing slight [[PaedoHunt paedo]] undertones...[[/note]]
* AdaptationDisplacement: Younger fans of ''Skylanders'' might be surprised to learn Spyro was the star of his own game and following series for quite some time prior to ''Skylanders''
* BaseBreakingCharacter: [[UpToEleven We'd be tempted to say 'everyone' and call it a day]] if it weren't for it being against Trope policies. As BrokenBase below points out, people who are fans of the Classic series aren't a fan of Legends characters while people who are fans of the Legend series aren't fans of the Classic series characters. To put it frank; the ''only'' characters you're likely to not find people complaining about, characterization wise or otherwise, in this fandom are Flame and Bianca.

to:

** Haunted Towers from the same game has a whole area which is entirely hidden from the rest of the level - and again, only a difficult and not-hinted-at supercharge will lead you there.
** ''Spyro 2'' has Fracture Hills, a level that contains a notably frustrating EscortMission. Annoyingly, if you beat it at the first opportunity, you won't be able to complete the subsequent mission until you've unlocked the Headbash - forcing you to come back to the level and replay the EscortMission at a later date.
** The flight levels/speedways can also be frustrating until you are familiar with their layout - the flight levels in the first game are particularly difficult, but they got easier in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' (where there is a clear optimal route for taking out obstacles, and in ''YOTD'', Sparx outright tells you the order to tackle them).
** Lost Fleet's skateboard challenges.
* ThatOnePuzzle: The seed-planting challenges in ''Ripto's Rage'' and ''Year of the Dragon'' require quite a bit more strategic thinking than usual. The one in ''YOTD'' is particularly troublesome, because even when you know what to do, it requires some very difficult jumps.
* ThatOneSidequest:
** The yeti boxing match in ''YOTD''. Hoo boy. Learning a completely new and bizarre boxing layout against an opponent with no discernible pattern. And you have to do it twice, second time takes 3 rounds.
** The rather annoying challenge in ''YOTD'' has Spyro swimming in the long tunnel at super speed to get to the dead-end where the egg is at and if you got hit by a wall or a rhynoc, you'll have to start all over again. Have fun.
** Also in ''YOTD'', Fireworks Factory has two of the eggs titled [[LampshadeHanging "You're doomed."]] ''"You're still doomed."'', for good reason [[spoiler: (you have to kill ninjas with Agent 9. which is harder than it sounds, despite Agent 9 being a [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkey]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot with a space suit and wielding a laser gun]])]]. The "doomed" part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though Doom isn't considered an easy game.
** The speedways. Those Goddamn speedways.
** As above, the EscortMission in Fracture Hills. It involves escorting the Alchemist past all the Earthshapers without him getting hit by an angry rockman. The main issue here is that the Alchemist takes the most dangerous path by walking by as many Earthshapers as possible. He even tries to fake the player out at the last one, for no reason other than to make you lose at the last second. The extra salt in the wound is that he doesn't ''need'' to walk this much, as there's nothing stopping him from just walking around the whole course by making a left out of his hut.
* VindicatedByHistory: In the late 1990s and early 2000s, this series was snark bait amongst "hardcore" gamers due to being another 3D platformer, and being geared at a younger audience than many other [=PS1=] titles. As the little kids of yesterday became the gaming audience of the late 2000s and 2010s, it's become fondly remembered and seen as one of the better [=PlayStation=] franchises.

!!The games released between the classic and ''The Legend of Spyro'' trilogies of:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ember and Flame, thanks to being the few dragons around Spyro's age in the entire franchise. Even a few Classic trilogy only purist wouldn't mind them being adopted into "official" canon if Insomniac ever makes another Spyro game.
* OneSceneWonder: The Ice Princess, who has a very charming design and attracted a small fandom, appears only to give the player a single mission in ''A Hero's Tail''.
* ThatOneLevel: The second Hunter level in ''A Hero's Tail''. WHY WOULD YOU PUT TEMPLE OF DOOM OBSTACLES WHERE SPYRO CAN'T GLIDE PAST THEM?!?


!!''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro''
* [[YMMV/TheLegendOfSpyro Listed here]]

!!All
* AbandonShipping: Spyro X Elora is almost never shipped anymore in the fandom, regardless of continuity. While there are still ''some'' out there, these days, it's mostly been replaced by Spyro X Cynder or Spyro X Ember, albeit not without some reasonings. [[note]]Namely, in addition to the massive species gap between the two, many point out that Spyro's implied age of twelve in the original games and Elora's late teenage appears gives the pairing slight [[PaedoHunt paedo]] undertones...[[/note]]
* AdaptationDisplacement: Younger fans of ''Skylanders'' might be surprised to learn Spyro was the star of his own game and following series for quite some time prior to ''Skylanders''
* BaseBreakingCharacter: [[UpToEleven We'd be tempted to say 'everyone' and call it a day]] if it weren't for it being against Trope
entpe policies. As BrokenBase below points out, people who are fans of the Classic series aren't a fan of Legends characters while people who are fans of the Legend series aren't fans of the Classic series characters. To put it frank; the ''only'' characters you're likely to not find people complaining about, characterization wise or otherwise, in this fandom are Flame and Bianca.


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* PopularWithFurries: Unsurprisingly, the game's premise as playing as a dragon created a lot of childhood fans that joined the furry fandom who will often cite the game as a major, -if not ''the'' - reasoning for kicking off their interest in other works that draw interest in furries. This got a huge boost with ''Legacy of Spyro'' didn't help this by introducing a female dragon love-interest with a popular evil form, and a cute normal form. This doesn't even stop at dragon fans, as there's plenty of animal characters as well (Hunter the Cheetah and Bianca being the most well-known).
30th Dec '17 11:59:18 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon The Sorceress]] & [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro Malefor]]. See those pages for details.
28th Dec '17 8:02:34 AM TokoWH
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* BrokenBase: Considering there are no less than ''three''[[note]]or four, depending on how you view the games between the classic trilogy and Legend of Spyro[[/note]] different continuities with varying themes and gameplay styles, fans have many different views on the franchise as a whole.

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Considering there are no less than ''three''[[note]]or four, depending on how you view the games between the classic trilogy and Legend of Spyro[[/note]] different continuities with varying themes and gameplay styles, fans have many different views on the franchise as a whole.
28th Dec '17 7:40:03 AM TokoWH
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* FanPreferredCouple: Ember and Flame are paired together almost constantly, despite Ember apparently falling for [[InterspeciesRomance Bandit the Armadillo]].

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Ember and Flame are paired together almost constantly, despite Ember apparently falling for [[InterspeciesRomance Bandit the Armadillo]].


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** Weirdly, 2016-2017 saw a huge surge of Ember X Cynder fan art and stories as a backlash against the RonTheDeathEater, {{Die For Our Ship}}s tropes they frequently suffered, to the point it started to eclipse Spyro X Cynder in the fandom.
28th Dec '17 7:31:23 AM TokoWH
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!!The classic trilogy

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!!The classic trilogy!! Individual trilogy pages



!!The classic trilogy



* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Ember X Cynder saw a ''huge'' serge in popularity starting around 2016-2017 as the result of a backlash against the frequent RonTheDeathEater use in regards to both of them in fanworks. This is despite the fact that they both exist in separate continuities.



* RonTheDeathEater: Both Cynder and Ember have gotten this treatment by the fandom. A bit more common with Ember, as her one sided crush on Spyro is often used to make her a ClingyJealousGirl trying to break Spyro and Cynder up or [[MurderTheHypotenuse kill Cynder]] and have Spyro to herself.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Both Cynder and Ember have gotten this treatment by the fandom. A bit more common with Ember, as her one sided crush on Spyro is often used to make her a ClingyJealousGirl trying to break Spyro and Cynder up or [[MurderTheHypotenuse kill Cynder]] and have Spyro to herself. The overuse of this in fanworks seems to be dying down, thanks to an increased backlash against this trope.
21st Nov '17 2:26:17 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Also in ''YOTD'', Fireworks Factory has two of the eggs titled [[LampshadeHanging "You're doomed."]] ''"You're still doomed."'', for good reason [[spoiler: (you have to kill ninjas with Agent 9. which is harder than it sounds, despite Agent 9 being a [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkey]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot with a space suit and wielding a laser gun]])]].
** The "doomed"part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though Doom isn't considered an easy game.

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** Also in ''YOTD'', Fireworks Factory has two of the eggs titled [[LampshadeHanging "You're doomed."]] ''"You're still doomed."'', for good reason [[spoiler: (you have to kill ninjas with Agent 9. which is harder than it sounds, despite Agent 9 being a [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkey]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot with a space suit and wielding a laser gun]])]].
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gun]])]]. The "doomed"part "doomed" part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though Doom isn't considered an easy game.
21st Nov '17 2:24:52 PM Mctwisted
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** The "doomed"part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though doom isn't considered an easy game.

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** The "doomed"part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though doom Doom isn't considered an easy game.
21st Nov '17 2:23:00 PM Mctwisted
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** The "doomed"part of the title is actually a reference to the fact that the challenge is FPS style gameplay, not its difficulty, though doom isn't considered an easy game.
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