History YMMV / SonicHeroes

20th Sep '17 6:56:18 AM chasemaddigan
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Did Metal Sonic really "betray" Eggman? Considering that he locked Eggman away safely in a room when he could have done much worse, and his goal was to defeat Sonic (what Eggman created him to do) and build a robot empire (Eggman's goal), it's possible that he simply deemed his creator to be unable to accomplish their goals himself and [[LeaveHimToMe took matters into his own hands.]]

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Did Metal Sonic really "betray" Eggman? Considering that he locked Eggman away safely in a room when he could have done much worse, and his goal was to defeat Sonic (what Eggman created him to do) and build a robot empire (Eggman's goal), it's possible that he simply deemed his creator to be unable to accomplish their goals himself and [[LeaveHimToMe took matters into his own hands.]]]]
** The final boss theme, "What I'm Made Of", is pretty vague on whose viewpoint the song is supposed to be focused on. The singer dares their persistent opponent to not hold back during their fight while also promising to show their foe how powerful they truly are. The song can be viewed as a BadassBoast from Sonic's perspective, but can just as easily be seen as Metal Sonic finally reaching his breaking point and going to extremes he normally wouldn't go to.
18th Sep '17 4:43:24 AM PrincessGwen
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** Many fans feel that the controls were made too lose and slippery compared to the ''Adventure'' games. While they help with speedy sections more, slower sections tend to be more frustrating than they need to be, particularly in the combat heavy areas.

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** Many fans feel that the controls were made too lose loose and slippery compared to the ''Adventure'' games. While they help with speedy sections more, slower sections tend to be more frustrating than they need to be, particularly in the combat heavy areas.
17th Sep '17 3:04:12 PM Luigifan
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Metal Overlord. While Metal Madness is mildly challenging due to having one instant-kill attack, Overlord is one of the easiest bosses in the game--you can't even be directly harmed by him, and the only danger is running out of rings, which can be periodically refilled during the fight. Granted, ''you'' can't hurt him either unless you use ''five'' [[LimitBreak Team Blasts]], but this simply turns the fight into a waiting game of countering projectiles to build up the gauge while watching your rings.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Metal Overlord. While Metal Madness is mildly challenging due to having one instant-kill attack, Overlord is one of the easiest bosses in the game--you game -- you can't even be directly harmed by him, and the only danger is running out of rings, which can be periodically refilled during the fight. Granted, ''you'' can't hurt him either unless you use a [[LimitBreak Team Blast]], and it takes ''five'' [[LimitBreak Team Blasts]], Blasts to defeat him, but this simply turns the fight into a waiting game of countering projectiles to build up the gauge while watching your rings.



** On the more upward end of the trope, Big managed to ascend out of TheScrappy status for some fans due to being boosted into an impressive Power type with the same speed and capability as the standard characters. His dopey ManChild personality still remains to polarise the others though.

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** On the more upward end of the trope, Big managed to ascend out of TheScrappy status for some fans due to being boosted into an impressive Power type with the same speed and capability as the standard characters. His dopey ManChild personality still remains to polarise the others others, though.



* ContinuityLockout: Unless you had already played VideoGame/SonicCD (or some of the obscure spinoffs) before or assumed the Mecha Sonics from the original Genesis games were the same character (which they aren't), a new player would have no clue where Metal Sonic had even come from in the series or that the game was his major return.

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* ContinuityLockout: Unless you had already played VideoGame/SonicCD ''VideoGame/SonicCD'' (or some of the obscure spinoffs) before or assumed the Mecha Sonics from the original Genesis games were the same character (which they aren't), a new player would have no clue where Metal Sonic had even come from in the series or that the game was his major return.



** The character battles are completely trivialized by the Speed characters' tornado attack, turning the TacticalRockPaperScissors aspect they're supposed to have into a farce.



The moon is shining for you, knows that I adore you!

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The moon is shining for you, it knows that I adore you!



** Flying formation can be a pain, as you're forced to carry your teammates and speed is reduced greatly is this formation. And if your fly meter depletes fully (which it can do so ''very'' quickly), you sink like a rock, which can be frustrating if there's a BottomlessPit below you, which is to say, quite often in fly specific areas. Also, there's an inexplicable height cap when you attempt to fly that is all too easy to reach, which really ruins the point of a "Flight" formation. Attacking in flight formation can also be rather tricky, as it can be hard to aim.

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** Flying formation can be a pain, as you're forced to carry your teammates and speed is reduced greatly is this formation. And if your fly meter depletes fully (which it can do so ''very'' quickly), you sink like a rock, which can be frustrating if there's a BottomlessPit below you, which is to say, quite often in fly specific fly-specific areas. Also, there's an inexplicable height cap when you attempt to fly that is all too easy to reach, which really ruins the point of a "Flight" formation. Attacking in flight formation can also be rather tricky, as it can be hard to aim.
30th Aug '17 10:24:52 AM N8han11
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Metal Sonic copies Chaos's data from Chocola and Froggy. Chao are very closely connected with Chaos, and Froggy was once possessed by Chaos. When Metal Sonic enters his OneWingedAngel transformation, he does so by merging with one of Eggman's battleships. This is because he copied Chaos's shapeshifting powers. However, while Chaos is made of water, and thus merged with Station Square's reservoirs, Metal Sonic is made of metal, so he used a battleship to gain mass.



* GoddamnedBats: The Hang Castle and Mystic Mansion stages feature the return of the ghosts from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' and ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', and they aren't any easier to deal with here. They pop up everywhere and can easily mess with the flow of speed. Given the latter is a very long stage, this'll get frustrating.

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The Hang Castle and Mystic Mansion stages feature the return of the ghosts from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' and ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', and they aren't any easier to deal with here. They pop up everywhere and can easily mess with the flow of speed. Given the latter is a very long stage, this'll get frustrating.
21st Jun '17 11:19:44 AM Prometheus117
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Metal Overlord. While Metal Madness is mildly challenging due to having one instant-kill attack, Overlord is one of the easiest bosses in the game--you can't even be directly harmed by him, and the only danger is running out of rings, which can be periodically refilled during the fight.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Metal Overlord. While Metal Madness is mildly challenging due to having one instant-kill attack, Overlord is one of the easiest bosses in the game--you can't even be directly harmed by him, and the only danger is running out of rings, which can be periodically refilled during the fight. Granted, ''you'' can't hurt him either unless you use ''five'' [[LimitBreak Team Blasts]], but this simply turns the fight into a waiting game of countering projectiles to build up the gauge while watching your rings.
28th May '17 10:17:41 PM SheldonDinkleburg
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** A single throwaway line from the English manual referring to Dr. Eggman as a feminist has stuck with him, inspiring much AlternateCharacterInterpretation from the fandom.

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** A single throwaway line from the English manual referring to Dr. Eggman as a feminist has stuck with him, inspiring much AlternateCharacterInterpretation from the fandom.[[note]]This does not actually appear in the Japanese manual. A more accurate translation would be "ladies' man."[[/note]]
28th May '17 10:13:02 PM SheldonDinkleburg
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* NeverLiveItDown: Amy trying to force Sonic to marry her by beating him to a pulp, mostly because it signaled the start of her {{Flanderization}}. Tragically so, since the rest of the game applies as valid CharacterDevelopment due to her leader role and improved competence and abilities.

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Amy trying to force Sonic to marry her by beating him to a pulp, mostly because it signaled the start of her {{Flanderization}}. Tragically so, since the rest of the game applies as valid CharacterDevelopment due to her leader role and improved competence and abilities.abilities.
** A single throwaway line from the English manual referring to Dr. Eggman as a feminist has stuck with him, inspiring much AlternateCharacterInterpretation from the fandom.
21st May '17 4:00:34 AM mitcher
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** A minor one but the PC version had the drawback of the inability to switch the voice acting to Japanese.
12th Mar '17 10:07:22 AM SpinAttaxx
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** Metal Sonic's portrayal has received differing opinions; while some like him becoming a threat in his own right wthout being a minion of Eggman, others find it wildly out of character and prefer the idea of Metal Sonic's character being like the original, only coldly loyal to Eggman.


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* FashionVictimVillain: Though he only appears in the transformation for a few seconds, Neo Metal Sonic's design is the butt of many jokes, with some comparing him to a starfish in a butt-skirt. Even those who like the wizard-esque design think giving him ''pointy elf shoes'' was going a bit too far.
3rd Mar '17 8:49:39 PM WaxingName
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some people were ''not'' fond of the designs for Tails' and Knuckles' [[SuperMode super forms]], (more akin to a "Super Shield" than their actual transformations from ''[=S3&K=]'') in this game.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** Many fans feel that the controls were made too lose and slippery compared to the ''Adventure'' games. While they help with speedy sections more, slower sections tend to be more frustrating than they need to be, particularly in the combat heavy areas.
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Some people were ''not'' fond of the designs for Tails' and Knuckles' [[SuperMode super forms]], (more akin to a "Super Shield" than their actual transformations from ''[=S3&K=]'') in this game.
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