History YMMV / SleepingBeauty

16th Apr '17 12:51:54 AM AdamC
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** Was Maleficent ''really'' offended at not being invited? Or did she just curse Aurora [[ForTheEvulz for fun]]?
** There are quite a few people who consider Flora, Fauna and Merryweather to be the ''true'' protagonists of the film. Considering how much focus they get and the fact that they, to an extent, are the ones who really save the day, this isn't an unreasonable viewpoint.

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** Was Maleficent ''really'' offended at not being invited? Or did she just curse Aurora [[ForTheEvulz for fun]]?
fun]]? If she ''were'' invited, would she inevitably have found another excuse?
** There are quite a few people who consider Flora, Fauna and Merryweather to be the ''true'' protagonists of the film. Considering how much focus they get and the fact that they, to an extent, are the ones who really save the day, this isn't an unreasonable viewpoint. It doesn't help that Phillip and Aurora tend to come off as [[VanillaProtagonist Vanilla Protagonists.]]
1st Apr '17 6:21:47 PM PrincessGwen
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** The movie itself. Some fans dismiss it as being sexist for having the PrincessClassic being a DamselInDistress who "doesn't do anything" and has little to no character development, preferring the villain herself to most of the characters. Other fans praise it as one of Walt's best works of art for its animation and music, with some seeing it as [[http://excellent-show-of-patience.tumblr.com/post/67003045977/sleeping-beauty-review very progressive for its day]], for it's female-driven narrative, diverse female characters, a princess who doesn't want to be a princess, and an open-minded prince who dismisses arranged marriages in favor of love.

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** The movie itself. Some fans dismiss it as being sexist for having the PrincessClassic being a DamselInDistress who "doesn't do anything" and has little to no character development, preferring the villain herself to most of the characters. Other fans praise it as one of Walt's best works of art for its animation and music, with some seeing it as [[http://excellent-show-of-patience.tumblr.com/post/67003045977/sleeping-beauty-review very progressive for its day]], for it's its female-driven narrative, diverse female characters, a princess who doesn't want to be a princess, and an open-minded prince who dismisses arranged marriages in favor of love.
22nd Mar '17 8:34:25 AM hullflyer
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The film addresses an issue in the original fairy tale--- specifically, why, if the final fairy could enchant the princess to be awoken by TrueLovesKiss, she couldn't just go ahead and remove the curse entirely. The Three Good Fairies tell Stefan that they can't revoke gifts from other members of their kind, and there's also the implication that Maleficent is too powerful for them to remove the curse.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The film addresses an issue in the original fairy tale--- specifically, why, if the final fairy could enchant the princess to be awoken by TrueLovesKiss, she couldn't just go ahead and remove the curse entirely. The Three Good Fairies tell Stefan that they can't revoke gifts from other members of their kind, and there's also the implication that Maleficent is too powerful for them to remove the curse.curse outright. They have to redirect it into an enchanted, almost deathlike sleep.
15th Mar '17 1:02:09 AM Gairyuki
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* [[HesJustHiding She's Just Hiding]]: Many fans believe that Maleficent is still alive, mainly because [[NoBodyLeftBehind she apparently left no corpse]]. In the AlternateUniverse ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' canon they use this to reintroduce Maleficent, as thinking about her when her cloak is nearby resurrects her.

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* [[HesJustHiding She's Just Hiding]]: Many fans believe that Maleficent is still alive, mainly because [[NoBodyLeftBehind she apparently left no corpse]]. In the AlternateUniverse ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' canon they use this to reintroduce Maleficent, as thinking about her when her cloak is nearby resurrects her. In fact, during the recreation of the movie's climax in the prequel ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', Maleficent actually ''SURVIVES'' being stabbed by Phillip, albeit weakly limping away while clutching her chest back in fairy form, though only [[ActionGirl Aqua]] knows of her survival.
11th Feb '17 7:39:29 AM MagBas
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** The ''Maleficent'' movie is considered this by those who would rather the villainess remain evil at heart, instead of being turned into TheWoobie. Or to those who wish she'd been cast as someone other than Angelina Jolie. Or thsoe who feel that the fairies, often seen as the actual heroines of the story, were DemotedToExtra solely to [[SpotlightStealingSquad prop up Maleficient]], ''plus'' applying CharacterDerailment to Aurora's kindly dad King Stefan. In fairness, said film is also clearly an AlternateContinuity, and Disney's Animated Canon has always taken precedence over the live-action adaptations.

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** The ''Maleficent'' movie is considered this by those who would rather the villainess remain evil at heart, instead of being turned into TheWoobie. Or to those who wish she'd been cast as someone other than Angelina Jolie. Or thsoe who feel that the fairies, often seen as the actual heroines of the story, were DemotedToExtra solely to [[SpotlightStealingSquad prop up Maleficient]], ''plus'' applying CharacterDerailment AdaptationalVillainy to Aurora's kindly dad King Stefan. In fairness, said film is also clearly an AlternateContinuity, and Disney's Animated Canon has always taken precedence over the live-action adaptations.
8th Feb '17 10:56:22 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** What is Aurora's real motivation for going to the castle when she clearly doesn't want to? Is she just spineless? Doing the right thing? Which is she really more sad over- losing Philip, being told her happy peasant life is a lie and having to leave it forever, having a major career (ruling) forced on her- all of the above?

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** What is Aurora's real motivation for going to the castle when she clearly doesn't want to? Is she just spineless? Doing the right thing? Which is she really more sad over- losing Philip, being told her happy peasant life is a lie and having to leave it forever, having a major career (ruling) forced on her- her? Or (most likely) '''[[BreakThecutie all of the above?above]]'''?



* BaseBreakingCharacter: Aurora has been criticised for years as one of the weakest and most passive Disney Princesses - as she's a DistressedDamsel who needs to be saved by a man. But the Aurora hate has received a lot of backlash as the years go by, with some finding that she is a good character that gets OvershadowedByAwesome (Maleficent, the fairies and even Philip). Despite Aurora often being the first princess to get criticised by detractors, she's still one of the most popular princesses among certain fans.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Aurora has been criticised for years as one of the weakest and most passive Disney Princesses - as she's a DistressedDamsel who needs to be saved by a man. But the Aurora hate has received a lot of backlash as the years go by, with some finding that she is a good character that gets OvershadowedByAwesome (Maleficent, the fairies and even Philip).Philip), for stuff that isn't even her fault in the first place. Despite Aurora often being the first princess to get criticised by detractors, she's still one of the most popular princesses among certain fans.



** The ''Maleficent'' movie is considered this by those who would rather the villainess remain evil at heart, instead of being turned into TheWoobie. Or to those who wish she'd been cast as someone other than Angelina Jolie. In fairness, said film is also clearly an AlternateContinuity, and Disney's Animated Canon has always taken precedence over the live-action adaptations.

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** The ''Maleficent'' movie is considered this by those who would rather the villainess remain evil at heart, instead of being turned into TheWoobie. Or to those who wish she'd been cast as someone other than Angelina Jolie. Or thsoe who feel that the fairies, often seen as the actual heroines of the story, were DemotedToExtra solely to [[SpotlightStealingSquad prop up Maleficient]], ''plus'' applying CharacterDerailment to Aurora's kindly dad King Stefan. In fairness, said film is also clearly an AlternateContinuity, and Disney's Animated Canon has always taken precedence over the live-action adaptations.


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** Others are more charitable to her and believe her angst is pretty understandable since the revelation abot being a princess and going to the castle overlaps with her ''finding out that her entire life has been a total lie''.
28th Jan '17 8:00:29 PM jameygamer
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** A deleted scene on the Diamond Blu-Ray portrays Aurora as almost a proto-[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Jasmine]]: A princess who spends her life cooped up in a castle, and desires freedom so strongly, she releases her pet bird from its cage, then sneaks to the marketplace disguised as a peasant, whereupon she meets the love of her life.

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** A deleted scene on the Diamond Blu-Ray Edition BluRay portrays Aurora as almost a proto-[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Jasmine]]: A princess who spends her life cooped up in a castle, and desires freedom so strongly, she releases her pet bird from its cage, then sneaks to the marketplace disguised as a peasant, whereupon she meets the love of her life.
8th Jan '17 5:38:20 PM fearlessnikki
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: What is Aurora's real motivation for going to the castle when she clearly doesn't want to? Is she just spineless? Doing the right thing? Which is she really more sad over- losing Philip, being told her happy peasant life is a lie and having to leave it forever, having a major career (ruling) forced on her- all of the above?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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What is Aurora's real motivation for going to the castle when she clearly doesn't want to? Is she just spineless? Doing the right thing? Which is she really more sad over- losing Philip, being told her happy peasant life is a lie and having to leave it forever, having a major career (ruling) forced on her- all of the above?



* BrokenBase: Over what colour the dress looks better in - blue or pink. It spends most of the film blue but is pink in most of the merchandise. This is mostly to distinguish Aurora from {{Disney/Cinderella}} whose dress is blue (but is white in her original film). ''Kingdom Hearts'' offered a compromise and showed the dress being purple.

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* BrokenBase: BaseBreakingCharacter: Aurora has been criticised for years as one of the weakest and most passive Disney Princesses - as she's a DistressedDamsel who needs to be saved by a man. But the Aurora hate has received a lot of backlash as the years go by, with some finding that she is a good character that gets OvershadowedByAwesome (Maleficent, the fairies and even Philip). Despite Aurora often being the first princess to get criticised by detractors, she's still one of the most popular princesses among certain fans.
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Over what colour the dress looks better in - blue or pink. It spends most of the film blue but is pink in most of the merchandise. This is mostly to distinguish Aurora from {{Disney/Cinderella}} whose dress is blue (but is white in her original film). ''Kingdom Hearts'' offered a compromise and showed the dress being purple.



** Aurora herself as well. Some fans hate her for "doing nothing but sleeping", having no adventure, nor standing up to the bad guy. Others love her grace and femininity, and think she's the best example of a Disney [[PrincessClassic Princess]].



* VanillaProtagonist: Aurora and Phillip represent on a grand scale fairy tale archetypes--PrincessClassic and PrinceCharming. This is fairly obvious at the start of the film, but by the time the third act has begun, unique personality and even dialogue is cut out to leave behind only the archetypes.
** That is, if you believe they ''are'' the protagonists of the movie in the first place. See DecoyProtagonist.

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* VanillaProtagonist: Aurora and Phillip represent on a grand scale fairy tale archetypes--PrincessClassic and PrinceCharming. This is fairly obvious at the start of the film, but by the time the third act has begun, unique personality and even dialogue is cut out to leave behind only the archetypes.
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archetypes. That is, if you believe they ''are'' the protagonists of the movie in the first place. See DecoyProtagonist.



* {{Wangst}}: It's not hard to see Aurora's misery about not seeing the boy she met a half hour before and going to live with her parents in a castle and be a princess as being overly dramatic.
** Made somewhat HilariousInHindsight when Maleficent gets [[Film/{{Maleficent}} her own movie]], which actually touches on the fact that Aurora and Phillip have only just met. [[spoiler: Since genuine love cannot exist after only a single meeting, Prince Phillip doesn't end up being the one to break Aurora's curse.]]
* WeirdAlEffect: It becomes difficult to watch the ballet once one is familiar with the film, as the same score cues two completely different events in the ballet and film. Hearing the waltz would probably also cause several viewers to mentally hear the lyrics to "Once Upon a Dream" and/or "I Wonder" despite no one actually singing them.

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* {{Wangst}}: It's not hard to see Aurora's misery about not seeing the boy she met a half hour before and going to live with her parents in a castle and be a princess as being overly dramatic.
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dramatic. Made somewhat HilariousInHindsight when Maleficent gets [[Film/{{Maleficent}} her own movie]], which actually touches on the fact that Aurora and Phillip have only just met. [[spoiler: Since genuine love cannot exist after only a single meeting, Prince Phillip doesn't end up being the one to break Aurora's curse.]]
* WeirdAlEffect: WeirdAlEffect:
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It becomes difficult to watch the ballet once one is familiar with the film, as the same score cues two completely different events in the ballet and film. Hearing the waltz would probably also cause several viewers to mentally hear the lyrics to "Once Upon a Dream" and/or "I Wonder" despite no one actually singing them.
8th Jan '17 7:43:26 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: In folklore, a person at the age of 15 is very lustful. And at that age she decided to touch a pointy item of a certain shape, and end up bleeding.
** All the fairies symbolize something a proper woman will get/learn. The wicked fairy represents her sexuality, and she was born by a frog. The princess never learned about that.
** The way the thorns prevent men from appropriating the princess during a long time, represent how we tend to ignore almost everyone during puberty, until we "spring out". Just like the flowers did.
19th Aug '16 3:38:08 PM Eagal
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* FridgeBrilliance: Maleficent in the beginning is rather attractive for an evil fairy, satisfied with cursing the baby and getting her revenge. When she starts getting more and more desperate as the years go by, she starts looking uglier and more haggard. Losing sleep over it?
--> '''Maleficent''': For the first time in sixteen years, I shall sleep well.
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