History YMMV / Slayers

15th Sep '17 7:31:51 PM Angeldeb82
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* AdaptationDisplacement: "Huh? What do you mean there are novels?" This would actually apply to any number of fans, since the novels weren't translated until around ''eight years'' after the anime was first distributed in the states ([[NoExportForYou and only the first eight are currently translated anyway.]])

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* AdaptationDisplacement: "Huh? What do you mean there are novels?" This would actually apply to any number of fans, since the novels weren't translated until around ''eight years'' after the anime was first distributed in the states ([[NoExportForYou and only the first eight are currently translated anyway.]])anyway]]).



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** The legendary second opening song, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J14Y9pFIW-M "Give a Reason".]]

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** The legendary second opening song, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J14Y9pFIW-M "Give a Reason".]] Reason"]].



** This one has died down over the years with the advent of ''Revolution'' and ''Evolution-R'', but many fans either liked or hated the third season (''TRY'') because of its darker plot and [[GrayAndGrayMorality fascinating(?) and well-done(?) questioning of who is and isn't evil]]. And the simple fact that by the end there was a sense of ''been there, done that'', with the antics of Lina and the gang - especially the antics of Lina - just not being as funny as they would've been in the two previous seasons.

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** This one has died down over the years with the advent of ''Revolution'' and ''Evolution-R'', but many fans either liked or hated the third season (''TRY'') because of its darker plot and [[GrayAndGrayMorality [[GreyAndGrayMorality fascinating(?) and well-done(?) questioning of who is and isn't evil]]. And the simple fact that by the end there was a sense of ''been there, done that'', with the antics of Lina and the gang - especially the antics of Lina - just not being as funny as they would've been in the two previous seasons.



** There's the ever-popular {{Yaoi}} choice of Zelgadis/Xellos, with the alleged justification that they secretly love one another, despite the blatant hatred Zelgadis has for the latter.

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** There's the ever-popular {{Yaoi}} {{Yaoi|Genre}} choice of Zelgadis/Xellos, with the alleged justification that they secretly love one another, despite the blatant hatred Zelgadis has for the latter.



** Filia is only allowed to be with Xellos, not anyone else, ''especially'' Valgaav. Because their constant bickering and passive-aggressive treatment of one another is ''clearly'' the sign of a loving old married couple. Never mind the fact that Xellos is completely incapable of feeling positive human emotions, while Filia is a part of [[HolierThanThou a bigoted race of god-worshiping dragons.]]

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** Filia is only allowed to be with Xellos, not anyone else, ''especially'' Valgaav. Because their constant bickering and passive-aggressive treatment of one another is ''clearly'' the sign of a loving old married couple. Never mind the fact that Xellos is completely incapable of feeling positive human emotions, while Filia is a part of [[HolierThanThou a bigoted race of god-worshiping dragons.]]dragons]].



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Amelia's love of justice being {{flanderized}} in most adaptations from the novels initially made her as [[TheScrappy scrappy]] as Pokota. [[MostAnnoyingSound Joani Baker voicing her at first didn't help at all.]] However, [[MostWonderfulSound Once Veronica Taylor took over her voice acting]] and her {{Flanderization}} was toned down, she quickly became a fan favorite.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Amelia's love of justice being {{flanderized}} {{flanderiz|ation}}ed in most adaptations from the novels initially made her as [[TheScrappy scrappy]] as Pokota. [[MostAnnoyingSound Joani Baker voicing her at first didn't help at all.]] However, [[MostWonderfulSound Once [[SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound once Veronica Taylor took over her voice acting]] and her {{Flanderization}} was toned down, she quickly became a fan favorite.



** Sylphiel's demure personality, strength in healing magic over attack spells, and [[DieForOurShip feelings for Gourry]] made her heavily disliked by a lot of Western fans who have the RealWomenNeverWearDresses mindset. Because of that, the more stubborn Filia is preferred by them. On the other hand, both Sylphiel and Filia are only moderately liked by Japanese fans, and Hajime Kanzaka, the novel writer, [[CreatorBacklash dislikes]] Filia (and ''TRY'' in general).

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** Sylphiel's demure personality, strength in healing magic over attack spells, and [[DieForOurShip feelings for Gourry]] made her heavily disliked by a lot of Western fans who have the RealWomenNeverWearDresses RealWomenDontWearDresses mindset. Because of that, the more stubborn Filia is preferred by them. On the other hand, both Sylphiel and Filia are only moderately liked by Japanese fans, and Hajime Kanzaka, the novel writer, [[CreatorBacklash dislikes]] Filia (and ''TRY'' in general).



** In the first season, Zelgadis claims that Rezo the Red Priest is [[IncestIsRelative both his grandfather and his great-grandfather]]. {{Word of God}} has since been passed on that this was a verbal mishap, and that not only was Zelgadis supposed to be unsure whether Rezo is two generations removed (grandfather) or three (great-grandfather), but he's truly Rezo's great-grandson.

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** In the first season, Zelgadis claims that Rezo the Red Priest is [[IncestIsRelative both his grandfather and his great-grandfather]]. {{Word of God}} WordOfGod has since been passed on that this was a verbal mishap, and that not only was Zelgadis supposed to be unsure whether Rezo is two generations removed (grandfather) or three (great-grandfather), but he's truly Rezo's great-grandson.



** Gourry seems pretty well-adjusted considering his [[TearJerker back story.]]

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** Gourry seems pretty well-adjusted considering his [[TearJerker back story.]]backstory]].
10th Sep '17 2:05:57 PM nombretomado
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** Even the dub has some of this. The first 13 episodes of Season 1 were recorded in 1996, and aside from Creator/LisaOrtiz as Lina and Creator/EricStuart as Gourry, it really doesn't hold up very well, featuring many stilled performances and awkward script choices. It starts improving quite a bit in the second half of Season 1, with Creator/VeronicaTaylor as Amelia and Creator/CrispinFreeman as Zelgadis, and the dubs for NEXT and TRY are considered among the best of the 90s, featuring many well-done performances that strike a balance between the series' comedic and melodramatic elements, with Xellos and Sylphiel's voices being the only sore spots. A change in voice director (from Jim Malone to Anthony Salerno) also helped. ADV's dubs for the the movies and [=OVAs=] aren't as fondly remembered (aside from maybe Creator/KellyManison as Naga), most likely because they couldn't capture the magic of NEXT and TRY's dubs. FUNimation even tried to go back and fix some of the first 13 episodes' mediocre dubbing, but were unable to. When Revolution and Evolution-R were dubbed in 2009-2010, FUNimation did go out of their way to bring back the main four voice actors, due to fan demand.

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** Even the dub has some of this. The first 13 episodes of Season 1 were recorded in 1996, and aside from Creator/LisaOrtiz as Lina and Creator/EricStuart as Gourry, it really doesn't hold up very well, featuring many stilled performances and awkward script choices. It starts improving quite a bit in the second half of Season 1, with Creator/VeronicaTaylor as Amelia and Creator/CrispinFreeman as Zelgadis, and the dubs for NEXT and TRY are considered among the best of the 90s, featuring many well-done performances that strike a balance between the series' comedic and melodramatic elements, with Xellos and Sylphiel's voices being the only sore spots. A change in voice director (from Jim Malone to Anthony Salerno) also helped. ADV's dubs for the the movies and [=OVAs=] aren't as fondly remembered (aside from maybe Creator/KellyManison as Naga), most likely because they couldn't capture the magic of NEXT and TRY's dubs. FUNimation [=FUNimation=] even tried to go back and fix some of the first 13 episodes' mediocre dubbing, but were unable to. When Revolution and Evolution-R were dubbed in 2009-2010, FUNimation [=FUNimation=] did go out of their way to bring back the main four voice actors, due to fan demand.
30th Aug '17 6:08:25 PM nombretomado
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** Creator/HoukoKuwashima and AkiraIshida respectively voicing Filia and Xellos, who continue to aggravate each other throughout the third season, in light of them also much later voicing happy couple Miyako and Dan in ''Manga/BambooBlade''.

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** Creator/HoukoKuwashima and AkiraIshida Creator/AkiraIshida respectively voicing Filia and Xellos, who continue to aggravate each other throughout the third season, in light of them also much later voicing happy couple Miyako and Dan in ''Manga/BambooBlade''.
25th Aug '17 1:30:16 PM captainpat
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* CreatorsPet: Lina and Naga for the light novel writer and artist, Lina even moreso for Rui Araizumi, the light novel artist - most of his artwork is of her, and most of his newer pieces (and art in the ''Slayers Smash'' novels) have her either in sensual poses or with prominent nipples. It's also been made clear in-universe that both of them, Lina moreso, are abnormally powerful compared to most mages.
18th Aug '17 6:16:49 PM WanderingBrowser
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* VoodooShark: The {{jossed}} InterspeciesRomance between Rowdy Gabrief (Gourry's ancestor) and his elf ImpliedLoveInterest Mellyroon depends on the WordOfGod that it's because Mellyroon would have aged too slowly to be legal by the time Rowdy was an adult. But they live on an island which houses a magical spring that ages whatever is bathed in it -- and this isn't a secret, local farmers use it all the time. So that explanation actually makes no sense at all when you think about it. There's a reason this explanation is a prominent case of FanonDiscontinuity.
18th Aug '17 6:08:06 PM WanderingBrowser
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* DeathOfTheAuthor: Hajime Kanzaka's tendency to make up explanations for various plot and character details on the fly, leave them ambiguous and contradict himself at later points, combined with leaving key information out of the actual series and only makiing it accessible via interviews that are difficult to acquire outside of Japan, leads to a distinct proliferation of FanonDiscontinuity and {{Fanon}}.
17th Aug '17 7:45:04 PM 64SuperNintendo
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** Amelia is also somewhat Woobified as noted above; you're supposed to feel terrible for her and give her a protective hug when a villain tears a great bloody hole in her back or tries to rip out her soul or what have you. Amelia herself, though, is [[{{Pollyanna}} too damn genki]] to be held back by any of this.

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** Amelia is also somewhat Woobified as noted above; you're supposed to feel terrible for her and give her a protective hug when a villain tears a great bloody hole in her back or tries to rip out her soul or what have you. Amelia herself, though, is [[{{Pollyanna}} [[ThePollyanna too damn genki]] to be held back by any of this.
17th Aug '17 7:44:49 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Amelia's love of justice being {{flanderized}} in most adaptations from the novels initially made her as [[TheScrappy scrappy]] as Pokota. [[MostAnnoyingSound Joani Baker voicing her at first didn't help at all.]] However, [[MostWonderfulSound Once Veronica Taylor took over her voice acting]] and her {{Flanderization}} was toned down, she quickly became a fan favorite.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Amelia's love of justice being {{flanderized}} in most adaptations from the novels initially made her as [[TheScrappy scrappy]] as Pokota. [[MostAnnoyingSound Joani Baker voicing her at first didn't help at all.]] However, [[MostWonderfulSound Once Veronica Taylor took over her voice acting]] and her {{Flanderization}} was toned down, she quickly became a fan favorite.
3rd Aug '17 6:28:23 PM MisterTimor
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** The entire introduction of anime-only character Kira in ''NEXT'' is a showcase of moe traits in itself: an adorable and a bit clumsy pink-haired young girl who spends her time eating popsicles and making potions.
3rd Aug '17 12:06:34 PM MisterTimor
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** Dilgear is absolutely this albeit in a villainous sense.



** Dilgear is absolutely this albeit in a villainous sense.
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