History YMMV / Slayer

7th Sep '17 8:19:49 PM overman2099
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* {{Sequelitis}}: YMMV on this naturally but there are a subset fans who feel that ''Seasons in the Abyss'' was about as far as Slayer could ever progress with their sound and that every Slayer album afterwards just hasn't been able to recapture their glory days.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: YMMV on this naturally but there are a subset of fans who feel that ''Seasons in the Abyss'' was about as far as Slayer could ever progress with their sound and that every Slayer album afterwards just hasn't been able to recapture their glory days.
26th Aug '17 12:09:15 AM overman2099
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* {{Sequelitis}}: YMMV on this naturally but there are a subset fans who feel that ''Seasons in the Abyss'' was about as far as Slayer could ever progress with their sound and that every Slayer album afterwards just hasn't been able to recapture their glory days.
20th Jul '17 6:58:09 PM MeatWisdom
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* FaceOfTheBand: Kerry King, specially for its tattooed and {{bald|OfAwesome}} looks.

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* FaceOfTheBand: Kerry King, specially especially for its his tattooed and {{bald|OfAwesome}} looks.
19th Feb '17 9:33:39 PM Jaredwarrensince1991
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* DorkAge: The Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus in Musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.

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* DorkAge: The The first Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus in Musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.



** Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around. He is not a bad drummer ''per se'', he's just unlucky enough to replace one of the most talented people to ever sit behind a drumset.

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** Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around. He is not a bad drummer ''per se'', he's just unlucky enough to replace [[ToughActToFollow one of the most talented people to ever sit behind a drumset.drumset]].
28th Oct '16 10:13:27 PM acarponearth
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*** Not even "Angel of Death;" the entirety of ''Music/ReignInBlood'' is an half-hour of god-tier ThrashMetal.
25th Aug '16 10:09:45 AM Xarvas
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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Gary Holt, who is probably one of the ''only'' guitarists who had a shot at being welcomed by the fans as a replacement for Hanneman; it probably helps that he manages to capture the essence of Hanneman's playing style while putting his own, equally distinctive stamp on it. Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Gary Holt, who is probably one of the ''only'' guitarists who had a shot at being welcomed by the fans as a replacement for Hanneman; it probably helps that he manages to capture the essence of Hanneman's playing style while putting his own, equally distinctive stamp on it. it.
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Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around.around. He is not a bad drummer ''per se'', he's just unlucky enough to replace one of the most talented people to ever sit behind a drumset.
24th Aug '16 4:43:52 PM Jaredwarrensince1991
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* LastNoteNightmare: KILL AGAIN!!

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* LastNoteNightmare: [[https://youtu.be/MYE-uJYCbGk KILL AGAIN!!AGAIN!!!!]]
24th Aug '16 4:40:31 PM Jaredwarrensince1991
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* LastNoteNightmare: KILL AGAIN!!
15th Aug '16 10:10:27 PM gewunomox
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* AwesomeMusic: Most of the band's output up to and including ''Seasons in the Abyss'', at the very least. The music after that gets a bit more... controversial, although ''Divine Intervention'' and ''Undisputed Attitude'' at least are still generally regarded as worthwhile.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the band's output up to and including ''Seasons in the Abyss'', at the very least. The music after that gets a bit more... controversial, Controversial, although ''Divine Intervention'' and ''Undisputed Attitude'' at least are still generally regarded as worthwhile.



** And then, there are those who feel the band jumped the shark when Paul Bostaph was hired as their drummer and, particularly, when 1998's NuMetal influenced ''Diabolus in musica'' was released. ''God Hates Us All'' is similarly polarizing, with many going as far as to say that the album was even worse than ''Diabolus'' (although it did give the band their first ever Grammy nomination with "Disciple"). Fortunately, 2006's ''Christ Illusion'' and 2009's ''World Painted Blood'' mostly rectified this by shedding the NuMetal influences and returning to the band's thrash metal roots, but songs like "Playing with Dolls" still remain a serious point of contention among the fanbase.
* DorkAge: The Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus in musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.
* EpicRiff: "Raining Blood"

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** And then, there are those who feel the band jumped the shark when Paul Bostaph was hired as their drummer and, particularly, when 1998's NuMetal influenced ''Diabolus in musica'' Musica'' was released. ''God Hates Us All'' is similarly polarizing, with many going as far as to say that the album was even worse than ''Diabolus'' (although it did give the band their first ever Grammy nomination with "Disciple"). Fortunately, 2006's ''Christ Illusion'' and 2009's ''World Painted Blood'' mostly rectified this by shedding the NuMetal influences and returning to the band's thrash metal roots, but songs like "Playing with Dolls" still remain a serious point of contention among the fanbase.
* DorkAge: The Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus in musica'', Musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.
* EpicRiff: "Raining Blood"Blood".



* MemeticMutation: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9R3_cS6jsk HEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!(?)]]
** VIVA CHILE MIERDA!! (go watch the Big Four DVD/blu-ray if you don't get it. Besides, you probably need to be Chilean in order to really get all Memetic about it)

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* MemeticMutation: [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9R3_cS6jsk HEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!(?)]]
** VIVA CHILE MIERDA!! (go (Go watch the Big Four DVD/blu-ray DVD / blu-ray if you don't get it. Besides, you probably need to be Chilean in order to really get all Memetic about it) it).



** On a musical level, the NuMetal-influenced ''Diabolus in musica'' and ''God Hates Us All'' will never be forgiven by some fans. Even King isn't a fan of ''Diabolus''.
* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Gary Holt, who is probably one of the ''only'' guitarists who had a shot at being welcomed by the fans as a replacement for Hanneman; it probably helps that he manages to capture the essence of Hanneman's playing style while putting his own, equally-distinctive stamp on it. Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around.

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** On a musical level, the NuMetal-influenced ''Diabolus in musica'' Musica'' and ''God Hates Us All'' will never be forgiven by some fans. Even King isn't a fan of ''Diabolus''.
* ReplacementScrappy: Averted with Gary Holt, who is probably one of the ''only'' guitarists who had a shot at being welcomed by the fans as a replacement for Hanneman; it probably helps that he manages to capture the essence of Hanneman's playing style while putting his own, equally-distinctive equally distinctive stamp on it. Played straight with Paul Bostaph, who wasn't particularly well-liked the first time around and still isn't held in particularly high regard even in his second time around.



* WereStillRelevantDammit: This trope was one of the main criticisms people had with ''God Hates Us All''. The album contained quite a few [[ClusterFBomb Cluster F-Bombs]] (which were, until then, a rarity in Slayer's music), similarly forced screaming in parts, and the same NuMetal influence that permeated their prior album. Not to mention a pointless picture in the album booklet of a Bible with nails and the band name burned into it, which was clearly done for no reason other than to prove that they could still be "edgy" in the age of more extreme bands like Music/{{Mayhem}} and Music/{{Nile}}.

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: This trope was one of the main criticisms people had with ''God Hates Us All''. The album contained quite a few [[ClusterFBomb Cluster F-Bombs]] (which were, until then, a rarity in Slayer's music), similarly forced screaming in parts, and the same NuMetal influence that permeated their prior album. Not to mention a pointless picture in the album booklet of a Bible with nails and the band name burned into it, which was clearly done for no reason other than to prove that they could still be "edgy" in the age of more extreme bands like Music/{{Mayhem}} and Music/{{Nile}}.Music/{{Nile}}.
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9th May '16 11:28:16 PM CassandraLeo
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** The fast, thrashing riffs of ''Reign in Blood'' or the slower, heavier songs of ''South of Heaven''? ''Reign In Blood'' is either the band's best album or their JumpingTheShark moment depending on who you ask, with a VocalMinority of the fans preferring the EpicRocking style of ''Hell Awaits''.
** And then, there are those who feel the band jumped the shark when Paul Bostaph was hired as their drummer and, particularly, when 1998's NuMetal influenced ''Diabolus In Musica'' was released. ''God Hates Us All'' is similarly polarizing, with many going as far as to say that the album was even worse than Diabolus (although it did give the band their first ever Grammy nomination with "Disciple"). Fortunately, 2006's ''Christ Illusion'' and 2009's ''World Painted Blood'' mostly rectified this by shedding the NuMetal influences and returning to the band's thrash metal roots, but songs like "Playing with Dolls" still remain a serious point of contention among the fanbase.
* DorkAge: The Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus In Musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.

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** The fast, thrashing riffs of ''Reign in Blood'' or the slower, heavier songs of ''South of Heaven''? ''Reign In in Blood'' is either the band's best album or their JumpingTheShark moment depending on who you ask, with a VocalMinority of the fans preferring the EpicRocking style of ''Hell Awaits''.
** And then, there are those who feel the band jumped the shark when Paul Bostaph was hired as their drummer and, particularly, when 1998's NuMetal influenced ''Diabolus In Musica'' in musica'' was released. ''God Hates Us All'' is similarly polarizing, with many going as far as to say that the album was even worse than Diabolus ''Diabolus'' (although it did give the band their first ever Grammy nomination with "Disciple"). Fortunately, 2006's ''Christ Illusion'' and 2009's ''World Painted Blood'' mostly rectified this by shedding the NuMetal influences and returning to the band's thrash metal roots, but songs like "Playing with Dolls" still remain a serious point of contention among the fanbase.
* DorkAge: The Paul Bostaph period is seen as this by some. ''Diabolus In Musica'', in musica'', in particular, takes a lot of heat for its obvious nu-metal influence.



** On a musical level, the NuMetal-influenced ''Diabolus in Musica'' and ''God Hates Us All'' will never be forgiven by some fans. Even King isn't a fan of ''Diabolus''.

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** On a musical level, the NuMetal-influenced ''Diabolus in Musica'' musica'' and ''God Hates Us All'' will never be forgiven by some fans. Even King isn't a fan of ''Diabolus''.



* WereStillRelevantDammit: This trope was one of the main criticisms people had with ''God Hates Us All''. The album contained quite a few [[ClusterFBomb Cluster F Bombs]] (which were, until then, a rarity in Slayer's music), similarly forced screaming in parts, and the same NuMetal influence that permeated their prior album. Not to mention a pointless picture in the album booklet of a Bible with nails and the band name burned into it, which was clearly done for no reason other than to prove that they could still be "edgy" in the age of more extreme bands like Music/{{Mayhem}} and Music/{{Nile}}.

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: This trope was one of the main criticisms people had with ''God Hates Us All''. The album contained quite a few [[ClusterFBomb Cluster F Bombs]] F-Bombs]] (which were, until then, a rarity in Slayer's music), similarly forced screaming in parts, and the same NuMetal influence that permeated their prior album. Not to mention a pointless picture in the album booklet of a Bible with nails and the band name burned into it, which was clearly done for no reason other than to prove that they could still be "edgy" in the age of more extreme bands like Music/{{Mayhem}} and Music/{{Nile}}.
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