History YMMV / SinCity

18th Sep '16 6:14:41 PM maxwellsilver
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** [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse Kevin]] from "The Hard Goodbye", with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard", is a young, [[TheStoic emotionless]], [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalistic]] SerialKiller who acts as a hitman for [[SinisterMinister Cardinal Patrick Henry Roark]]. In the meantime, Kevin murders and eats prostitutes; piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and making them watch. He [[{{Fingore}} cuts of and eats the left hand]] of Marv's parole officer Lucille, and throws her in the basement of the farmhouse, where there are several heads of Kevin's previous victims.

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** [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse Kevin]] Kevin from "The Hard Goodbye", with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard", is a young, [[TheStoic emotionless]], [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalistic]] emotionless, cannibalistic SerialKiller who acts as a hitman for [[SinisterMinister Cardinal Patrick Henry Roark]].Roark. In the meantime, Kevin murders and eats prostitutes; piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and making them watch. He [[{{Fingore}} cuts of and eats the left hand]] hand of Marv's parole officer Lucille, and throws her in the basement of the farmhouse, where there are several heads of Kevin's previous victims.



* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/ElijahWood as Kevin. [[TropesAreTools Never thought Frodo could be that scary, did you]]?

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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/ElijahWood as Kevin. [[TropesAreTools Never thought Frodo could be that scary, did you]]?
you?



* OneSceneWonder: Christopher Lloyd's [[BackAlleyDoctor Dr. Kroenig]]

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* OneSceneWonder: Christopher Lloyd's [[BackAlleyDoctor Dr. Kroenig]]Kroenig.
18th Sep '16 6:13:39 AM Austin
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Kevin looks noticeably younger when played by Elijah Wood, but no less creepier.
9th Sep '16 1:36:48 PM DeadlyAssassin
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* OneSceneWonder: Christopher Lloyd's [[BackAlleyDoctor Dr. Kroenig]]
30th Aug '16 12:37:20 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/ElijahWood as Kevin. Never thought Frodo could be that scary, did you?

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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/ElijahWood as Kevin. [[TropesAreTools Never thought Frodo could be that scary, did you?
you]]?
30th Aug '16 12:36:29 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: Due to the [[BlackAndGrayMorality general morality]], the villains are usually really bad. These are the absolute worst that the CrapsackWorld setting has to offer:

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* CompleteMonster: Due to the [[BlackAndGrayMorality general morality]], the villains are usually really bad. But even with that being said, there are a few that stand out as especially heinous. These are the absolute worst that the CrapsackWorld setting has to offer:
31st Jul '16 8:02:16 AM ACW
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** Kevin from "The Hard Goodbye" (with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard") is a young cannibalistic {{serial killer}} who acts as a hitman for Cardinal Roark when he's not murdering and eating prostitutes -- and he eats them piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and ''making them watch'', as evidenced when he got his hands on [[spoiler:Lucille, Marv's parole officer]], who was found by Marv and survived, but lost one of her hands to him before the two escaped, ending up as the TropeCodifier for ForcedToWatch. However, he gets one of the most gruesome, over-the-top, terribly long, and yet poetic punishments imaginable from SociopathicHero Marv...even ''then'', he smiles all the way to the end while being eaten by his pet wolf to deny Marv the pleasure of victory or revenge, and when Marv saws off his head to finish him, he doesn't give out a single scream.

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** Kevin [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse Kevin]] from "The Hard Goodbye" (with Goodbye", with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard") Bastard", is a young cannibalistic {{serial killer}} young, [[TheStoic emotionless]], [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalistic]] SerialKiller who acts as a hitman for [[SinisterMinister Cardinal Roark when he's not murdering Patrick Henry Roark]]. In the meantime, Kevin murders and eating prostitutes -- and he eats them prostitutes; piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and ''making making them watch'', as evidenced when he got his hands on [[spoiler:Lucille, watch. He [[{{Fingore}} cuts of and eats the left hand]] of Marv's parole officer]], who was found by Marv officer Lucille, and survived, but lost one of throws her hands to him before in the two escaped, ending up as the TropeCodifier for ForcedToWatch. However, he gets one basement of the most gruesome, over-the-top, terribly long, and yet poetic punishments imaginable from SociopathicHero Marv...even ''then'', he smiles all the way to the end while being eaten by his pet wolf to deny Marv the pleasure farmhouse, where there are several heads of victory or revenge, and when Marv saws off his head to finish him, he doesn't give out a single scream.Kevin's previous victims.
25th Jun '16 12:33:17 PM maxwellsilver
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The usage of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJoQWrhCtk Cells]] in the trailer and closing credits is so memorable that it's often called the "Sin City Theme" even though it's not the theme. The song predates the movie.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The usage of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJoQWrhCtk Cells]] in the trailer and closing credits is so memorable that it's often called the "Sin City Theme" even though it's not the theme. The song theme and predates the movie.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Averted, the movie was usually word-for-word, panel-for-panel accurate to the comics, to the point where Creator/FrankMiller was given a director credit for it.
23rd Jun '16 4:25:10 PM maxwellsilver
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** Kevin from "The Hard Goodbye" (with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard") is a young [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalistic]] {{serial killer}} who acts as a hitman for Cardinal Roark when he's not murdering and eating prostitutes -- and he eats them piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and ''making them watch'', as evidenced when he got his hands on [[spoiler:Lucille, Marv's parole officer]], who was found by Marv and survived, but lost one of her hands to him before the two escaped, ending up as the TropeCodifier for ForcedToWatch. However, he gets one of the most [[{{Gorn}} gruesome, over-the-top]], [[RasputinianDeath terribly long]], [[DeathByIrony and yet poetic]] punishments imaginable from SociopathicHero Marv...even ''then'', he [[GoOutWithASmile smiles all the way]] to the end while being eaten by his pet wolf to deny Marv the pleasure of victory or revenge, and when Marv [[OffWithHisHead saws off his head]] to finish him, he doesn't give out a single scream.
** Ethan Roark "Junior" from "That Yellow Bastard" is the son of a US Senator with the appearance of a handsome young playboy. In reality, he is a {{sadist}}ic [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] with a penchant for [[SerialRapist raping]] and [[SerialKiller murdering]] preteen girls and who {{loves the sound of screaming}}. These horrible crimes are [[CorruptPolitician covered up]] by his [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney corrupt]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem Senator]] [[SleazyPolitician father]] (brother of the aforementioned Cardinal, natch), which means that no one on the police force is willing to take him down until [[AntiHero John Hartigan]] saves his latest victim, Nancy Callahan, and goes through eight long years of prison for it because of the vengeful Senator dad. Near the end, it's revealed that Roark Junior is impotent unless he hears little girls scream in pain and that there were ''hundreds'' of victims. In the second film, his father acknowledges that he is insane.
** The Colonel, also known as The Salesman, is one of the top enforcers in [[TheDon Herr Wallenquist]]'s Basin City Mob. He runs a clandestine [[MurderInc division of contract killers]] and occasionally [[ProfessionalKiller performs the hits himself]]. He mentors new trainees to shed all redeeming traits so they can become remorseless killing machines, inducing one of them into murdering the only man she ever loved before assigning her the code name "Blue Eyes". His largest operation is the "Human Resources" division, a massive kidnapping, sex slave-trading, brainwashing, organ harvesting and industrial-strength porn production operation. He kills off one of his own henchmen through EyeScream on the off chance that the hero Wallace might track the minion down, after previously having the man's male lover [[TheresNoKillLikeOverkill stabbed to death with over a dozen knives]]. He has an alliance with a DirtyCop named Leibowitz, but when Leibowitz's loyalty might falter, he orders his son's arm broken as a warning and threatens to kill his whole family. The Colonel is pretty obviously a {{sociopath}} who displays no character traits other than hinting at a wish to direct the bodies of the people around him, to see their "full potential" realized.

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** Kevin from "The Hard Goodbye" (with a short cameo in "That Yellow Bastard") is a young [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalistic]] cannibalistic {{serial killer}} who acts as a hitman for Cardinal Roark when he's not murdering and eating prostitutes -- and he eats them piece by piece, keeping the women alive as long as possible and ''making them watch'', as evidenced when he got his hands on [[spoiler:Lucille, Marv's parole officer]], who was found by Marv and survived, but lost one of her hands to him before the two escaped, ending up as the TropeCodifier for ForcedToWatch. However, he gets one of the most [[{{Gorn}} gruesome, over-the-top]], [[RasputinianDeath over-the-top, terribly long]], [[DeathByIrony long, and yet poetic]] poetic punishments imaginable from SociopathicHero Marv...even ''then'', he [[GoOutWithASmile smiles all the way]] way to the end while being eaten by his pet wolf to deny Marv the pleasure of victory or revenge, and when Marv [[OffWithHisHead saws off his head]] head to finish him, he doesn't give out a single scream.
** Ethan Roark "Junior" from "That Yellow Bastard" is the son of a US Senator with the appearance of a handsome young playboy. In reality, he is a {{sadist}}ic [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] pedophile with a penchant for [[SerialRapist raping]] raping and [[SerialKiller murdering]] murdering preteen girls and who {{loves the sound of screaming}}. These horrible crimes are [[CorruptPolitician covered up]] up by his [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney corrupt]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem Senator]] [[SleazyPolitician father]] corrupt Senator father (brother of the aforementioned Cardinal, natch), which means that no one on the police force is willing to take him down until [[AntiHero John Hartigan]] Hartigan saves his latest victim, Nancy Callahan, and goes through eight long years of prison for it because of the vengeful Senator dad. Near the end, it's revealed that Roark Junior is impotent unless he hears little girls scream in pain and that there were ''hundreds'' of victims. In the second film, his father acknowledges that he is insane.
** The Colonel, also known as The Salesman, is one of the top enforcers in [[TheDon Herr Wallenquist]]'s Wallenquist's Basin City Mob. He runs a clandestine [[MurderInc division of contract killers]] killers and occasionally [[ProfessionalKiller performs the hits himself]]. himself. He mentors new trainees to shed all redeeming traits so they can become remorseless killing machines, inducing one of them into murdering the only man she ever loved before assigning her the code name codename "Blue Eyes". His largest operation is the "Human Resources" division, a massive kidnapping, sex slave-trading, brainwashing, organ harvesting and industrial-strength porn production operation. He kills off one of his own henchmen through EyeScream on the off chance that the hero Wallace might track the minion down, after previously having the man's male lover [[TheresNoKillLikeOverkill stabbed to death with over a dozen knives]].knives. He has an alliance with a DirtyCop named Leibowitz, but when Leibowitz's loyalty might falter, he orders his son's arm broken as a warning and threatens to kill his whole family. The Colonel is pretty obviously a {{sociopath}} who displays no character traits other than hinting at a wish to direct the bodies of the people around him, to see their "full potential" realized.
12th Jun '16 10:47:06 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Kevin looks noticeably younger when played by Elijah Wood, but no less creepier.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The movie's use of green sceen allowed for gorgeous visuals throughout, both in the obvious ways (the environments and spot coloring) and the less obvious ways (Mickey Rourke has a fight scene with Elijah Wood, despite Wood not even having been cast when Rourke was shooting). Also, the green screen not only made production go by very smoothly but each actor was able to be lit individually without worrying about lighting the backgrounds which was the only way to get the ''Sin City'' look.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The movie's use of green sceen screen allowed for gorgeous visuals throughout, both in the obvious ways (the environments and spot coloring) and the less obvious ways (Mickey Rourke has a fight scene with Elijah Wood, despite Wood not even having been cast when Rourke was shooting). Also, the green screen not only made production go by very smoothly but each actor was able to be lit individually without worrying about lighting the backgrounds which was the only way to get the ''Sin City'' look.
15th Mar '16 5:43:41 PM WillBGood
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* IAmNotShazam: The Yellow Bastard is the character's name in {{Fanon}}, is the referencial title of the story in which he appears, and is used by Creator/FrankMiller himself but as far as {{Canon}} goes, he is simply Junior Roark.

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* IAmNotShazam: The Yellow Bastard is the character's name in {{Fanon}}, is as well as the referencial title of the story in which he appears, and is used by Creator/FrankMiller himself but as far as {{Canon}} goes, he is simply Junior Roark.
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