History YMMV / Showgirls

17th Apr '18 3:00:12 PM fearlessnikki
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* FanPreferredCouple: Nomi and Molly are interpreted to be a couple due to the closeness between them.



* FetishRetardant: For most people, and arguably the TropeCodifier.
* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Music/JanetJackson or Music/PaulaAbdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for ''Showgirls'' itself was $45 million. Even assuming the producers were lying through their teeth, they'd likely get sued for slander.
** The hotel manager's response to the suggestion (the concern about salary) shows that he had no intention of bringing them in, but was merely remarking that Nomi has the same level of sexiness and talent. Tony's response seemed to that that those two weren't good enough for his show.

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* FetishRetardant: For most people, and arguably the TropeCodifier. \n* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Music/JanetJackson or Music/PaulaAbdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting Essentially there's so much nudity, that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts bad acting becomes that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for ''Showgirls'' itself was $45 million. Even assuming the producers were lying through their teeth, they'd likely get sued for slander.
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much funnier. The hotel manager's response to the suggestion (the concern about salary) shows that he had no intention pool sex scene is decidedly un-sexy because of bringing them in, but was merely remarking that Nomi has the same level of sexiness and talent. Tony's response seemed to that that those two weren't good enough for his show.how awkward it is.



** Gina Gershon has claimed this of her performance, once she realized [[SoBadItsGood just what kind of film she was making]].
** TookTheBadFilmSeriously: However, reviewers (while they ''do'' generally acknowledge her performance as the best in the film) are usually left with the impression that she was fully committing to the material in a way that none of her co-stars could (or in some cases, simply didn't want to).

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** Gina Gershon has claimed this of her performance, once she realized [[SoBadItsGood just what kind of film she was making]].
** TookTheBadFilmSeriously:
making]]. However, reviewers (while they ''do'' generally acknowledge her performance as the best in the film) are usually left with the impression that she was fully committing to the material in a way that none of her co-stars could (or in some cases, simply didn't want to).


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** In 2018 a [[http://www.vulture.com/2018/04/how-50-female-characters-were-described-in-their-screenplays.html post]] showing how fifty female characters were described in their screenplays noted that most of them focused on the character's attractiveness. But then...
--> "But guess which character is described with care, cinematic attention, and [[{{Irony}} not a single description of her sex appeal]]? [[DoubleTake Nomi Malone from ''Showgirls'']]!"
9th Mar '18 9:30:35 PM wyattte
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: The whole movie is so relentlessly ''sleazy'' that it winds up becoming this trope.



* DesignatedHero: Nomi ''really'' didn't even try to be heroic. The HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is attempted to be played with her job as a stripper/topless dancer, despite the fact that many of her actions in the movie come off as mildly amoral and a bit of a SympatheticSue. She gives what is apparently a lap-dance, but is just actual sex while he kept his pants on. She screwed her boss Zack Carey to get higher in the consideration to be [[PsychoLesbian Cristal Conners's]] understudy. Then she pushes Cristal down the stairs, which one character mentions resulted in injuries that would keep her out for up to a year. Sure Cristal was a bitch, but Nomi just stooped to the level of the bitchy dancer who purposely injured another dancer because she yelled at her kids. Even Molly is disgusted at Nomi for having done this... for a whole four minutes before she goes back to fangirling over Andrew Carver, who for some reason gang-rapes her. By the end, everybody forgives Nomi and treats her as some angelic force- the girl she pushed down the stairs, her boss, everybody. There's also the fact that her punishment of Andrew, to kick him in the face a few times, [[KarmaHoudini really did nothing to prevent him from raping again.]] Nomi leaves town at the end after threatening Andrew's life. Nomi was a Vegas star, did she think her disappearance would go unnoticed? What's stopping Andrew from attacking Molly again? Nothing.

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* DesignatedHero: Nomi ''really'' didn't even try to be heroic. The HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is attempted to be played with her job as a stripper/topless dancer, despite the fact that many of her actions in the movie come off as mildly amoral and a bit of a SympatheticSue. She gives what is apparently a lap-dance, but is just actual sex while he kept his pants on. She screwed her boss Zack Carey to get higher in the consideration to be [[PsychoLesbian Cristal Conners's]] understudy. Then she pushes Cristal down the stairs, which one character mentions resulted in injuries that would keep her out for up to a year. Sure Cristal was a bitch, but Nomi just stooped to the level of the bitchy dancer who purposely injured another dancer because she yelled at her kids. Even Molly is disgusted at Nomi for having done this... for a whole four minutes before she goes back to fangirling over Andrew Carver, who for some reason gang-rapes her. By the end, [[EasilyForgiven everybody forgives Nomi Nomi]] and treats her as some angelic force- the girl she pushed down the stairs, her boss, everybody. There's also the fact that her punishment of Andrew, to kick him in the face a few times, [[KarmaHoudini really did nothing to prevent him from raping again.]] Nomi leaves town at the end after threatening Andrew's life. Nomi was a Vegas star, did she think her disappearance would go unnoticed? What's stopping Andrew from attacking Molly again? Nothing.


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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Henrietta "Mama" Bazoom, possibly the most likable character in the movie, besides maybe Molly.
* EsotericHappyEnding: "What'd you win?" "Me." Nomi leaves Vegas scot-free [[ContrivedCoincidence in the same vehicle that brought her there,]] while Molly is in a coma, and Andrew presumably still a predator at-large (once his face heals up, anyway). And that's not even touching on how Nomi doesn't seem to have ''really'' learned anything from her experience.
11th Jan '18 1:08:51 AM nathan-sherman
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** Nomi's tantrums in general. Especially near the beginning when she flips out at her french fries.

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** Nomi's tantrums in general. Especially near the beginning when she flips out at her french fries.fries when Molly keeps asking her questions.
11th Jan '18 1:06:11 AM nathan-sherman
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** Nomi tells Andrew to be quiet at knife-point, [[Hypocrite and then screams in rage while kicking the crap out of him]].

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** Nomi tells Andrew to be quiet at knife-point, [[Hypocrite and then screams in rage while kicking the crap out of him]].him. [[SarcasmMode Seems legit]].
11th Jan '18 1:04:25 AM nathan-sherman
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** Nomi tells Andrew to be quiet at knifepoint, and then screams like a crazy person while kicking the crap out of him(?).

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** Nomi tells Andrew to be quiet at knifepoint, knife-point, [[Hypocrite and then screams like a crazy person in rage while kicking the crap out of him(?).him]].
8th Jan '18 8:01:23 AM lorgskyegon
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** The hotel manager's response to the suggestion (the concern about salary) shows that he had no intention of bringing them in, but was merely remarking that Nomi has the same level of sexiness and talent. Tony's response seemed to that that those two weren't good enough for his show.
19th Oct '17 10:27:28 AM ClintEastwood
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Several cast members take their roles seriously, which contributed greatly to its cheesy reputation in the intervening years.
** Creator/GinaGershon comes close to [[SoBadItsGood salvaging]] the film. She's clearly trying her hardest to be emotionally sincere during the hospital scene at the end, and gives the closest thing the film has to a TearJerker.
** ElizabethBerkley could be said to have taken ''Showgirls'' too seriously. This is why she received the majority of the backlash from it. At least everyone else gave the impression that they were trying to distance themselves from it.
** Creator/KyleMacLachlan was rumored to have stormed out of a screening because he was told by Creator/PaulVerhoeven that they were making a serious art film and not... well, ''Showgirls''. [=MacLachlan=] himself claims no such event took place.
** If you watch the "Making Of" featurette included in the DVD, it seems like EVERYONE involved the film took it way too seriously. It's downright surreal, hearing people go on about "complex emotional bonds" and making serious attempts at character interpretation for a movie that turned out to be... ''[[SoBadItsGood Showgirls]]''. Meanwhile, Robert Davi is camping it up for all he's worth as the sleazy owner of the Alligator Club, clearly aware that the material couldn't rise beyond its narrow aspirations.
9th Oct '17 8:00:48 AM ThallianGold
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: From the very beginning of the film, it's very clear that there are very few people to root for. With the exception of Molly, every character is either incredibly sleazy, villainous or both. Nomi finds herself being used and taken advantage of by virtually every male character in the film in some way, shape or form, all while the majority of the female characters lie to her face or act catty towards her. The GratuitousRape of Nomi's friend is the final straw.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: From the very beginning of the film, it's very clear that there are very few people to root for. With the exception of Molly, every character is either incredibly sleazy, villainous or both. Nomi finds herself being used and taken advantage of by virtually every male character in the film in some way, shape or form, all while the majority of the female characters lie to her face or act catty towards her. The GratuitousRape of Nomi's friend Molly is the final straw.



* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Music/JanetJackson or Music/PaulaAbdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for ''Showgirls'' itself was $45 million.

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* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Music/JanetJackson or Music/PaulaAbdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for ''Showgirls'' itself was $45 million. Even assuming the producers were lying through their teeth, they'd likely get sued for slander.
29th Sep '17 8:00:30 AM ClintEastwood
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: There's a couple of great Music/{{Prince}} songs on the soundtrack; "Ripopgodezippa" when James and Nomi dance together at his place, and "319" during Nomi's first stripping scene.

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There's a couple of great Music/{{Prince}} songs on the soundtrack; "Ripopgodezippa" when James and Nomi dance together at his place, and "319" during Nomi's first stripping scene.



* DesignatedHero: Nomi. We're supposed to root for her as an underdog, but she comes off as a bitch for most of the movie.

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* DesignatedHero: Nomi. We're supposed Nomi ''really'' didn't even try to root be heroic. The HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is attempted to be played with her job as a stripper/topless dancer, despite the fact that many of her actions in the movie come off as mildly amoral and a bit of a SympatheticSue. She gives what is apparently a lap-dance, but is just actual sex while he kept his pants on. She screwed her boss Zack Carey to get higher in the consideration to be [[PsychoLesbian Cristal Conners's]] understudy. Then she pushes Cristal down the stairs, which one character mentions resulted in injuries that would keep her out for up to a year. Sure Cristal was a bitch, but Nomi just stooped to the level of the bitchy dancer who purposely injured another dancer because she yelled at her kids. Even Molly is disgusted at Nomi for having done this... for a whole four minutes before she goes back to fangirling over Andrew Carver, who for some reason gang-rapes her. By the end, everybody forgives Nomi and treats her as an underdog, but some angelic force- the girl she comes off as a bitch for most of pushed down the movie.stairs, her boss, everybody. There's also the fact that her punishment of Andrew, to kick him in the face a few times, [[KarmaHoudini really did nothing to prevent him from raping again.]] Nomi leaves town at the end after threatening Andrew's life. Nomi was a Vegas star, did she think her disappearance would go unnoticed? What's stopping Andrew from attacking Molly again? Nothing.



* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Janet Jackson or Paula Abdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for Showgirls itself was $45 million.

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* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Janet Jackson Music/JanetJackson or Paula Abdul.Music/PaulaAbdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for Showgirls ''Showgirls'' itself was $45 million.



* HarsherInHindsight: When the guy that drove Nomi to Vegas asks her "What, has no one ever been nice to you?", it becomes a little sad when you learn her past.

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When the guy that drove Nomi to Vegas asks her "What, has no one ever been nice to you?", it becomes a little sad when you learn her past.



* LesYay: Nomi and Molly. She even gives her a goodbye kiss.



* {{Squick}}: Nomi licking a stripper pole. Mm, tetanus and other bodily fluids that might be there.

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Nomi licking a stripper pole. Mm, tetanus and other bodily fluids that might be there.
11th Aug '17 4:46:41 PM jonathan-sherwin
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* {{Squick}}: Nomi! Don't lick the pole!

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* {{Squick}}: Nomi! Don't lick the pole!Nomi licking a stripper pole. Mm, tetanus and other bodily fluids that might be there.
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