History YMMV / Showgirls

5th Jun '17 6:14:23 AM M3
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope. Part and parcel of why this movie is a CultClassic or filled with BileFascination is that there is SOMETHING this movie wants to say, but it has no idea what stance it wants to take nor does it know how or what it really wants to say. For every point the movie makes, there's about three fingers against why that stance is a bad one.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope. Part and parcel of why this movie is a CultClassic or filled with BileFascination is that there is SOMETHING this movie wants to say, but it has no idea what stance it wants to take nor does it know how or what it really wants to say. For every point the movie makes, there's about three fingers against why that stance is a bad one.one/hypocritical/naive.
22nd May '17 4:44:18 PM M3
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope. Part and parcel of why this movie is a CultClassic/DirtyPleasure/BileFascination is that there is SOMETHING this movie wants to say, but it has no idea what stance it wants to take nor does it know how or what it really wants to say. For every point the movie makes, there's about three fingers against why that stance is a bad one.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope. Part and parcel of why this movie is a CultClassic/DirtyPleasure/BileFascination CultClassic or filled with BileFascination is that there is SOMETHING this movie wants to say, but it has no idea what stance it wants to take nor does it know how or what it really wants to say. For every point the movie makes, there's about three fingers against why that stance is a bad one.
22nd May '17 4:43:39 PM M3
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''Showgirls'' was originally supposed to be a pro-feminist commentary about women who work as strippers. Some suspect the movie's [[DarkerAndEdgier dark tone]] is a result of the writers and producers invoking this trope. Part and parcel of why this movie is a CultClassic/DirtyPleasure/BileFascination is that there is SOMETHING this movie wants to say, but it has no idea what stance it wants to take nor does it know how or what it really wants to say. For every point the movie makes, there's about three fingers against why that stance is a bad one.
13th Mar '17 4:56:04 AM ThallianGold
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* FridgeLogic: When discussing who to cast as the lead in "Goddess," a casino representative mentions [[SnarkBait LaToya Jackson]] but says they went with Cristal. After Cristal's sidelined, the producers discuss approaching Janet Jackson or Paula Abdul. Both these women were at the height of their fame during filming, suggesting that the "Goddess" act was lucrative enough and respectable enough to lure major pop stars from $80 million contracts that wouldn't have involved nudity. For comparison, the budget for Showgirls itself was $45 million.
13th Mar '17 4:43:16 AM ThallianGold
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13th Mar '17 4:32:46 AM ThallianGold
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** While Al's portrayed as a manipulative sleaze who fucks all his clients, his speech to Hope at the beginning comes off as [[ChivalrousPervert genuinely concerned for her wellbeing]] until he gets to the suggestion that getting big tips means she should do whatever the client says.

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** While Al's portrayed as a manipulative sleaze who fucks all his clients, his speech to Hope at the beginning comes off as [[ChivalrousPervert genuinely concerned for her wellbeing]] until he gets to the suggestion that getting big tips means she should do whatever the client says. says... which itself may be suggesting something that prevents her from being beaten or killed.
13th Mar '17 4:31:53 AM ThallianGold
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** Alan Rachin not only steals his opening scene, he gets Elizabeth Berkley to step up to his acting, too.


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** Molly's fangirling over Andrew Carver is pretty cringeworthy on subsequent views.


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*** Or before that, when she sleeps with Zack behind Cristal's back.


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** Cristal and Zack conspire to trick Nomi into prostitution at the boat show. Nomi quickly picks up on this with Cristal, but never quite figures out that Zack was involved, too.
13th Mar '17 4:17:10 AM ThallianGold
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Rife with it.
** Cristal seems to blow off Nomi from the getgo, but quickly seeks her out again. The movie treats this as villainous behavior, but Nomi's overreactions are more striking in each scene, making Cristal look like an incredibly patient would-be love interest until she crosses her MoralEventHorizon.
** Nomi and Molly live together, call each other girlfriends, share everything, change clothes in front of each other, and Nomi frequently says she loves Molly... but if they're romantically linked, it's the only such relationship in the movie that's understated. The chemistry between the two actors helps sell this.
** While Al's portrayed as a manipulative sleaze who fucks all his clients, his speech to Hope at the beginning comes off as [[ChivalrousPervert genuinely concerned for her wellbeing]] until he gets to the suggestion that getting big tips means she should do whatever the client says.
** Tony Moss is crass and capricious in his opening scene, but is arguably engaging in ToughLove to weed out candidates from a demanding job. This is reinforced when every subsequent scene shows he bears Nomi no ill will, even covering up an embarrassing gaffe for her. While he doesn't think she's a good understudy to Cristal, he correctly calls out Zach for backing Nomi purely because Zach had sex with her.


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** Pick any other character with more than two lines in the movie. Odds are good they'd make a better, more interesting protagonist.


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** Alan Rachin not only steals his opening scene, he gets Elizabeth Berkley to step up to his acting, too.
17th Dec '16 11:17:50 PM TheJayman49
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Series/SiskelAndEbert'' tore into the film for completely wasting a chance to show the NC-17 rating wasn't just a way to slip porn into regular theaters.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Series/SiskelAndEbert'' tore into the film for completely wasting a chance to show that the NC-17 rating wasn't just a way to slip porn into regular theaters.theaters. ''Especially'' since this was the first, and to date the ''only'', NC-17 film to have a wide release in the US.
28th Oct '16 5:47:47 PM TheJayman49
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Nomi. She's supposed to be a sympathetic character but already comes across as being a pretty abrasive, scheming person before getting corrupted by the glitz and glamour of Vegas. At best she's a JerkassWoobie, and just a plain {{Jerkass}} at worst.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Nomi. She's Nomi is supposed to be a sympathetic character but already comes across as being a pretty abrasive, scheming person before getting corrupted by the glitz and glamour of Vegas. At best she's a JerkassWoobie, and just a plain {{Jerkass}} at worst.



* TheWoobie:
** Molly: to most audience members, she's the only character that's not a total dunce despite having it just as rough as Nomi.

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TheWoobie: Molly. To most audience members, she's the only character that's not a total dunce despite having it just as rough as Nomi.
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