History YMMV / ShinMegamiTenseiIV

3rd Jan '17 6:10:11 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** Not only can random-encounter enemies get first strikes like in other games, ''bosses'' can also get first strikes at random, which only serves as FakeDifficulty.
28th Dec '16 1:25:43 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Getting into the members-only area of Ginza requires you to expend a large sum of Macca on a ChainOfDeals: 55,000 Macca to get through two of the gates, 5,000 Macca to get a Gold Card ([[spoiler:which the offering Hunter doubles to 10,000 if you try to accept]]), and 100,000 Macca to buy the Silver Coin needed to get the Black Card which will then let into the area. And that's just the beginning of your spendings: The shops sell awesome yet exceptionally expensive items and equipment, which get even more expensive if you're playing on Master difficulty. Did you want the Demonica armor on Master? Time to grind for 2.6 million Macca!

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** Getting into the members-only area of Ginza requires you to [[CashGate expend a large sum of Macca Macca]] on a ChainOfDeals: 55,000 Macca to get through two of the gates, 5,000 Macca to get a Gold Card ([[spoiler:which the offering Hunter doubles to 10,000 if you try to accept]]), and 100,000 Macca to buy the Silver Coin needed to get the Black Card which will then let into the area. And that's just the beginning of your spendings: The shops sell awesome yet exceptionally expensive items and equipment, which get even more expensive if you're playing on Master difficulty. Did you want the Demonica armor on Master? Time to grind for 2.6 million Macca!
14th Dec '16 4:54:46 PM HamburgerTime
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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's [[AmericansHateTingle more pronounced in the West]] where ''Persona'' is [[MorePopularSpinoff far more popular]] than mainline ''SMT''.

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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed produced by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's [[AmericansHateTingle more pronounced in the West]] where ''Persona'' is [[MorePopularSpinoff far more popular]] than mainline ''SMT''.
13th Dec '16 1:23:31 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's [[AmericansHateTingle more pronounced in the West]] where ''Persona'' is far more popular than mainline ''SMT''.

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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's [[AmericansHateTingle more pronounced in the West]] where ''Persona'' is [[MorePopularSpinoff far more popular popular]] than mainline ''SMT''.
13th Dec '16 1:22:54 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's even more pronounced in the West where ''Persona'' is far more popular than mainline ''SMT''.

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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release, something that's even [[AmericansHateTingle more pronounced in the West West]] where ''Persona'' is far more popular than mainline ''SMT''.
13th Dec '16 1:22:41 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release.

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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release.release, something that's even more pronounced in the West where ''Persona'' is far more popular than mainline ''SMT''.
13th Dec '16 1:22:00 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada.

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* ToughActToFollow: Part of the reason for the ContestedSequel mentioned above is that this game had to live up to the stigma of being a sequel to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', perhaps ''the'' most highly regarded game in the mainline SMT series as well as it being the last game directed by series creator Cozy Okada. Within the context of the entire franchise, the game had to face comparisons to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'', which was [[CashCowFranchise steadily rolling in cash for Atlus]] at the time of this game's release.
13th Dec '16 1:19:55 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ContestedSequel: Many feel that the game is a steep drop in quality compared to ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', due to comparatively weaker 3D visuals, the revision of some battle mechanics (especially the removal of defense stats), and the game lacking challenge in comparison. Others however, praise the game for being much more beginner-friendly than ''Nocturne'' and especially ''I'' and ''II''.

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* ContestedSequel: Many feel that the game is a steep drop in quality [[ToughActToFollow compared to the gold standard that is]] ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', due to comparatively weaker 3D visuals, the revision of some battle mechanics (especially the removal of defense stats), and the game lacking challenge in comparison. Others however, praise the game for being much more beginner-friendly than ''Nocturne'' and especially ''I'' and ''II''.
26th Nov '16 12:59:09 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** If you get a combination of Pandemic Bomb and Death's Door on your team, random battles become an absolute joke. Some of the worst damage sponges in the later parts of the game are vulnerable to Sick status, and if you manage to inflict it on them and then reduce their HPToOne with Death's Door, you'll be able to knock them down with a [[CherryTapping light breeze,]] saving you a lot of MP and time.

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** If you get a combination of Pandemic Bomb and Death's Door on your team, random battles become an absolute joke. Some of the worst damage sponges in the later parts of the game are vulnerable to Sick status, and if you manage to inflict it on them and then reduce their HPToOne with Death's Door, you'll be able to knock them down with a [[CherryTapping light breeze,]] saving you a lot of MP and time. It gets even more hilarious if you're fighting Hordes, as Pandemic Bomb will attempt to hit 3 times thus improving your chances of sickening the enemy and Death's Door will also hit 3 times dealing horde's HP minus one on each hit, killing them instantly.
26th Nov '16 12:55:54 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Mastema. Is he really a good guy all along given his involvement in the backstory, [[spoiler:especially suppressing the Archangels]], or is he as much of a bastard as before given his involvement in [[spoiler:Tayama's Red Pill production]]?
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