History YMMV / ShadowHearts

20th Apr '17 10:13:12 AM Anddrix
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** More examples include the Armdog, an upside-down dog standing on a human arm..."The ghost of a postman who ate all the dogs in town". Or Sin, a [[FanDisservice scrawny naked woman]] standing on her arms, holding a pike with her toes which goes through a ''brain'' - "a mistake of God which seeks revenge against its creator". Or Guinea Pig, again a [[FanDisservice naked woman - with no head]], that attacks you by ''splitting its whole body between her legs to bite you''. Or the snail-girls in Zhaoyang village, with an absolutely [[HellIsThatNoise horrible]] scream - "the ghost of a girl who was burned alive. She is very lonely, but don't get to friendly with her". For ''Covenant'', we get male [[FanDisservice Fan Disservice]] in the form of a masculine lower body, gliding on its abdomen and legs in the air, which hits you with a huge phallic lump of flesh hanging from its crotch and bites you with mouths in the crook of its knees. [[FromBadToWorse And that's not even going into the bosses...]]

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** More examples include the Armdog, an upside-down dog standing on a human arm..."The ghost of a postman who ate all the dogs in town". Or Sin, a [[FanDisservice scrawny naked woman]] standing on her arms, holding a pike with her toes which goes through a ''brain'' - "a mistake of God which seeks revenge against its creator". Or Guinea Pig, again a [[FanDisservice naked woman - with no head]], that attacks you by ''splitting its whole body between her legs to bite you''. Or the snail-girls in Zhaoyang village, with an absolutely [[HellIsThatNoise horrible]] horrible scream - "the ghost of a girl who was burned alive. She is very lonely, but don't get to friendly with her". For ''Covenant'', we get male [[FanDisservice Fan Disservice]] in the form of a masculine lower body, gliding on its abdomen and legs in the air, which hits you with a huge phallic lump of flesh hanging from its crotch and bites you with mouths in the crook of its knees. [[FromBadToWorse And that's not even going into the bosses...]]
20th Apr '17 9:11:06 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise:
** Quite a few, both in exploration and combat. In the first game, you walk on blood and corpses quite often, producing a disgusting wet noise with every step. And the music for some areas would include screams, hysterical laughter and strange pants. Then the monsters come along and assault your ears with their weird moaning, nauseating squishy noises or gut-wrenching screams.
** Furthermore, if through whatever means your characters happen to ''go insane'' by having their Sanity Points depleted, the music changes to the 'Berserk Track'. There is a unique Berserk Track for each battle theme in the game, and is usually... Well, ''different''. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc standard]] with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUrt1wthlMg berserk]].
11th Dec '16 12:16:10 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Soundtracks by Yoshitaka Hirota, with Yasunori Mitsuda guest-composing a few tracks on the first two games for extra added flavor. Since Hirota is almost unquestionably a disciple of [[SilentHill Akira Yamaoka]] and Mitsuda [[VideoGame/ChronoCross needs]] [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} no]] [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} introduction]], Shadow Hearts' soundtrack manages to be both epic and skin-crawlingly creepy at the same time.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Soundtracks by Yoshitaka Hirota, with Yasunori Mitsuda guest-composing a few tracks on the first two games for extra added flavor. Since Hirota is almost unquestionably a disciple of [[SilentHill Akira Yamaoka]] Music/AkiraYamaoka and Mitsuda [[VideoGame/ChronoCross needs]] [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} no]] [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} introduction]], Shadow Hearts' soundtrack manages to be both epic and skin-crawlingly creepy at the same time.
3rd Dec '16 10:17:58 AM EnigmaLobo
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** Level up enough, and the Sanity Points system eventually becomes this for the rest of the game. Early on in the game where most characters are at a lower level, the player will sometimes need to keep an eye on their SP and prevent a character from going Berserk, an ailment that causes the combatant to lose control and use random actions for the duration of the battle, and gain no EXP, unless they are cured beforehand. The more the player levels up their characters, the more likely future battles will be over long before any character is at risk of going Berserk ever again, especially when considering that everyone's SP is fully restored after every battle.
18th Sep '16 5:53:06 AM NonoRobot
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVr9VjV96D4 Light Crossing Border]] from ''From The New World'', which plays in every spirit fight.
18th Sep '16 4:58:34 AM NonoRobot
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** To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?

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** To In the first ''Shadow Hearts'' game, to do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time.time three times. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?
18th Sep '16 4:56:13 AM NonoRobot
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** Furthermore, if through whatever means your characters happen to ''go insane'' by having their Sanity Points depleted, the music changes to the 'Berserk Track'. There is a unique Berserk Track for each battle theme in the game, and is usually... Well, ''different''. Compare [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM standard]] with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLVvqPCYuTs berserk]].

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** Furthermore, if through whatever means your characters happen to ''go insane'' by having their Sanity Points depleted, the music changes to the 'Berserk Track'. There is a unique Berserk Track for each battle theme in the game, and is usually... Well, ''different''. Compare [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc standard]] with [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLVvqPCYuTs com/watch?v=iUrt1wthlMg berserk]].
18th Sep '16 4:47:01 AM NonoRobot
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)
** The Sanity Points. Vampires always have high SP because they're used to seeing supernatural creatures on a day-to-day basis. People like Alice, Halley, Karin, and Anastasia who have low SP aren't so they're getting used to seeing these monsters. They also grow as they level up; as the character of course gets more and more desensitized to the existence of monsters, so it quite ''literally'' takes more to drive them insane, likewise, the vampire's SP never goes up because they've SeenItAll. The Harmonixers always have high SP because, well, that power threatens to drive them insane so they have to get used to it.
** Anastasia's SummonMagic operates through a camera and pictures; and she can't use the SummonMagic until she attains the proper picture. This is actually FridgeBrilliance because some people used to believe that cameras would steal your soul.
18th Sep '16 4:45:36 AM NonoRobot
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Killer in ''From The New World'' is often treated as being more sympathetic than he actually is, despite being a psychotic, remorseless serial killer.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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Killer in ''From The New World'' is often treated as being more sympathetic than he actually is, despite being a psychotic, remorseless serial killer.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Valentine family in general.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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The Valentine family in general.



* FridgeBrilliance: Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)

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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
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Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)



* GameBreaker: If used properly, Lucia's Aromatherapy ability can make the game *much* easier with the only drawback being it will effect everybody but her. Her successor, Ricardo, is also pretty good, too.

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* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
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If used properly, Lucia's Aromatherapy ability can make the game *much* easier with the only drawback being it will effect everybody but her. Her successor, Ricardo, is also pretty good, too.



* HellIsThatNoise: Quite a few, both in exploration and combat. In the first game, you walk on blood and corpses quite often, producing a disgusting wet noise with every step. And the music for some areas would include screams, hysterical laughter and strange pants. Then the monsters come along and assault your ears with their weird moaning, nauseating squishy noises or gut-wrenching screams.

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* HellIsThatNoise: HellIsThatNoise:
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Quite a few, both in exploration and combat. In the first game, you walk on blood and corpses quite often, producing a disgusting wet noise with every step. And the music for some areas would include screams, hysterical laughter and strange pants. Then the monsters come along and assault your ears with their weird moaning, nauseating squishy noises or gut-wrenching screams.



* NightmareFuel: The Doll House sidequests, particularly the one in the first SH. Also, the BossRoom in the optional dungeon Kowloon Fortress is just...*shudder*

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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The Doll House sidequests, particularly the one in the first SH. Also, the BossRoom in the optional dungeon Kowloon Fortress is just...*shudder*



* ScrappyMechanic: To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time at least three times. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?

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* ScrappyMechanic: ScrappyMechanic:
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To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time at least three times.time. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?



* {{Squick}}: Kato creating Ouka as a {{Replacement Goldfish}} for his dead love interest. It gets even more disturbing when Raiden and Hien discuss, in a cutscene, about Kato and Ouka wanting to ''have a baby together.''

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Kato creating Ouka as a {{Replacement Goldfish}} for his dead love interest. It gets even more disturbing when Raiden and Hien discuss, in a cutscene, about Kato and Ouka wanting to ''have a baby together.''



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Nicolai in Covenant. Revelations about his character with [[spoiler: Rasputin reveals that he is Tsar Nicolas's bastard, and is using Kato to take over Russia from Rasputin's hand. Instead, once they get to Japan, Nicolai is tortured, Astaroth takes over, and he is killed by Kato. In particular, there's no dialogue with his own sister, Anastasia.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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Nicolai in Covenant.''Covenant''. Revelations about his character with [[spoiler: Rasputin reveals that he is Tsar Nicolas's bastard, and is using Kato to take over Russia from Rasputin's hand. Instead, once they get to Japan, Nicolai is tortured, Astaroth takes over, and he is killed by Kato. In particular, there's no dialogue with his own sister, Anastasia.]]



* TierInducedScrappy: Gepetto is probably the closest this series has to one. He has the highest magical attack and can boost his elemental power with Cordelia's dresses, but Lucia and Anastasia are both faster, magical power is weaker than physical power, and the two women have special skills that make them more useful (Lucia's Aromatherapy and Anastasia's Snaps)

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* TierInducedScrappy: TierInducedScrappy:
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Gepetto is probably the closest this series has to one. He has the highest magical attack and can boost his elemental power with Cordelia's dresses, but Lucia and Anastasia are both faster, magical power is weaker than physical power, and the two women have special skills that make them more useful (Lucia's Aromatherapy and Anastasia's Snaps)



* UncannyValley: Averted because of the stylized characters (Rasputin looks like a cartoon villain), but in ''Covenant'', there's the "Miracle" scene in which, for once, the UncannyValley turns out to be more ''funny'' than creepy, because [[spoiler: Yuri tries to make a sad face...but it looks so ridiculous some people who ''would have'' cried at that scene suddenly found themselves stifling back laughter. This has become a ''very'' minor [[MemeticMutation meme]] in itself.]]

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* UncannyValley: UncannyValley:
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Averted because of the stylized characters (Rasputin looks like a cartoon villain), but in ''Covenant'', there's the "Miracle" scene in which, for once, the UncannyValley turns out to be more ''funny'' than creepy, because [[spoiler: Yuri tries to make a sad face...but it looks so ridiculous some people who ''would have'' cried at that scene suddenly found themselves stifling back laughter. This has become a ''very'' minor [[MemeticMutation meme]] in itself.]]
18th Sep '16 4:42:27 AM NonoRobot
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA8AAq6Q_0g&hd=1 Old Smudged Map]] from Covenant for good ambient stuff.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA8AAq6Q_0g&hd=1 com/watch?v=wkpiBIUeBfY Old Smudged Map]] from Covenant for good ambient stuff.
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