History YMMV / ShadowHearts

18th Sep '16 5:53:06 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVr9VjV96D4 Light Crossing Border]] from ''From The New World'', which plays in every spirit fight.
18th Sep '16 4:58:34 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?

to:

** To In the first ''Shadow Hearts'' game, to do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time.time three times. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?
18th Sep '16 4:56:13 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Furthermore, if through whatever means your characters happen to ''go insane'' by having their Sanity Points depleted, the music changes to the 'Berserk Track'. There is a unique Berserk Track for each battle theme in the game, and is usually... Well, ''different''. Compare [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM standard]] with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLVvqPCYuTs berserk]].

to:

** Furthermore, if through whatever means your characters happen to ''go insane'' by having their Sanity Points depleted, the music changes to the 'Berserk Track'. There is a unique Berserk Track for each battle theme in the game, and is usually... Well, ''different''. Compare [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc standard]] with [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLVvqPCYuTs com/watch?v=iUrt1wthlMg berserk]].
18th Sep '16 4:47:01 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FridgeBrilliance:
** Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)
** The Sanity Points. Vampires always have high SP because they're used to seeing supernatural creatures on a day-to-day basis. People like Alice, Halley, Karin, and Anastasia who have low SP aren't so they're getting used to seeing these monsters. They also grow as they level up; as the character of course gets more and more desensitized to the existence of monsters, so it quite ''literally'' takes more to drive them insane, likewise, the vampire's SP never goes up because they've SeenItAll. The Harmonixers always have high SP because, well, that power threatens to drive them insane so they have to get used to it.
** Anastasia's SummonMagic operates through a camera and pictures; and she can't use the SummonMagic until she attains the proper picture. This is actually FridgeBrilliance because some people used to believe that cameras would steal your soul.
18th Sep '16 4:45:36 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* DracoInLeatherPants: Killer in ''From The New World'' is often treated as being more sympathetic than he actually is, despite being a psychotic, remorseless serial killer.

to:

* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
**
Killer in ''From The New World'' is often treated as being more sympathetic than he actually is, despite being a psychotic, remorseless serial killer.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Valentine family in general.

to:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
**
The Valentine family in general.



* FridgeBrilliance: Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)

to:

* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
**
Halley has ESP abilities in ''Shadow Hearts'' - they're nice, but suck a lot of his MP out. This actually makes sense when you consider he's not had that much time to ''train'' his abilities and that they sometimes pop up when he is having a tantrum. (He even shouts, "Gah! I hate you! I hate you!" when using his psychic powers.)



* GameBreaker: If used properly, Lucia's Aromatherapy ability can make the game *much* easier with the only drawback being it will effect everybody but her. Her successor, Ricardo, is also pretty good, too.

to:

* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
**
If used properly, Lucia's Aromatherapy ability can make the game *much* easier with the only drawback being it will effect everybody but her. Her successor, Ricardo, is also pretty good, too.



* HellIsThatNoise: Quite a few, both in exploration and combat. In the first game, you walk on blood and corpses quite often, producing a disgusting wet noise with every step. And the music for some areas would include screams, hysterical laughter and strange pants. Then the monsters come along and assault your ears with their weird moaning, nauseating squishy noises or gut-wrenching screams.

to:

* HellIsThatNoise: HellIsThatNoise:
**
Quite a few, both in exploration and combat. In the first game, you walk on blood and corpses quite often, producing a disgusting wet noise with every step. And the music for some areas would include screams, hysterical laughter and strange pants. Then the monsters come along and assault your ears with their weird moaning, nauseating squishy noises or gut-wrenching screams.



* NightmareFuel: The Doll House sidequests, particularly the one in the first SH. Also, the BossRoom in the optional dungeon Kowloon Fortress is just...*shudder*

to:

* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
**
The Doll House sidequests, particularly the one in the first SH. Also, the BossRoom in the optional dungeon Kowloon Fortress is just...*shudder*



* ScrappyMechanic: To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time at least three times. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?

to:

* ScrappyMechanic: ScrappyMechanic:
**
To do ''anything'', you need to press the action button at the right time at least three times.time. '''Anything.''' This includes attacking, spell casting, using an item, ''searching a place for an item that's right in sight.'' And would you believe this very same mechanic somehow wasn't horrible in the sequels?



* {{Squick}}: Kato creating Ouka as a {{Replacement Goldfish}} for his dead love interest. It gets even more disturbing when Raiden and Hien discuss, in a cutscene, about Kato and Ouka wanting to ''have a baby together.''

to:

* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
**
Kato creating Ouka as a {{Replacement Goldfish}} for his dead love interest. It gets even more disturbing when Raiden and Hien discuss, in a cutscene, about Kato and Ouka wanting to ''have a baby together.''



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Nicolai in Covenant. Revelations about his character with [[spoiler: Rasputin reveals that he is Tsar Nicolas's bastard, and is using Kato to take over Russia from Rasputin's hand. Instead, once they get to Japan, Nicolai is tortured, Astaroth takes over, and he is killed by Kato. In particular, there's no dialogue with his own sister, Anastasia.]]

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
**
Nicolai in Covenant.''Covenant''. Revelations about his character with [[spoiler: Rasputin reveals that he is Tsar Nicolas's bastard, and is using Kato to take over Russia from Rasputin's hand. Instead, once they get to Japan, Nicolai is tortured, Astaroth takes over, and he is killed by Kato. In particular, there's no dialogue with his own sister, Anastasia.]]



* TierInducedScrappy: Gepetto is probably the closest this series has to one. He has the highest magical attack and can boost his elemental power with Cordelia's dresses, but Lucia and Anastasia are both faster, magical power is weaker than physical power, and the two women have special skills that make them more useful (Lucia's Aromatherapy and Anastasia's Snaps)

to:

* TierInducedScrappy: TierInducedScrappy:
**
Gepetto is probably the closest this series has to one. He has the highest magical attack and can boost his elemental power with Cordelia's dresses, but Lucia and Anastasia are both faster, magical power is weaker than physical power, and the two women have special skills that make them more useful (Lucia's Aromatherapy and Anastasia's Snaps)



* UncannyValley: Averted because of the stylized characters (Rasputin looks like a cartoon villain), but in ''Covenant'', there's the "Miracle" scene in which, for once, the UncannyValley turns out to be more ''funny'' than creepy, because [[spoiler: Yuri tries to make a sad face...but it looks so ridiculous some people who ''would have'' cried at that scene suddenly found themselves stifling back laughter. This has become a ''very'' minor [[MemeticMutation meme]] in itself.]]

to:

* UncannyValley: UncannyValley:
**
Averted because of the stylized characters (Rasputin looks like a cartoon villain), but in ''Covenant'', there's the "Miracle" scene in which, for once, the UncannyValley turns out to be more ''funny'' than creepy, because [[spoiler: Yuri tries to make a sad face...but it looks so ridiculous some people who ''would have'' cried at that scene suddenly found themselves stifling back laughter. This has become a ''very'' minor [[MemeticMutation meme]] in itself.]]
18th Sep '16 4:42:27 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA8AAq6Q_0g&hd=1 Old Smudged Map]] from Covenant for good ambient stuff.

to:

** [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA8AAq6Q_0g&hd=1 com/watch?v=wkpiBIUeBfY Old Smudged Map]] from Covenant for good ambient stuff.
18th Sep '16 4:41:37 AM NonoRobot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Special mentions go to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HEzyQXQnyI Demon's Gig]] from Shadow Hearts, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGCdR0rTM4 Hardcore to the Brain]].

to:

** Special mentions go to [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HEzyQXQnyI com/watch?v=ggV1OE0fey8 Demon's Gig]] from Shadow Hearts, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGCdR0rTM4 Hardcore to the Brain]].Brain]] from Shadow Hearts 2.
18th Aug '16 1:35:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheyJustDidntCare: The first game's voice acting is already pretty bad, but they didn't even redo the battle vocals... except with Margarete and Halley, and even then, it's only when she pulls out her phone to call in for help, or when he's casting a spell.. They're right back to speaking Japanese immediately afterwards.
22nd Jul '16 1:14:51 PM Aribter-Nelson
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* MagnificentBastard: Albert Simon. Everything from the start of ''Koudellka'' up to the final dungeon of ''Shadow Hearts'' is basically all part of Albert's plans. The shear level of his manipulative adaptation and back-up plans is nothing short of impressive. Even Yuri considers Albert the crème de la crème of villains.
17th Jul '16 11:18:30 PM morenohijazo
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* WastedSong: "Holy Body", which plays whenever you run out of SP during a Spirit fight in From the New World. Given the circumstances, it's ''highly'' unlikely you will ''ever'' hear it.

to:

* WastedSong: "Holy Body", which plays whenever you run out of SP during a Spirit fight UnderusedGameMechanic:
** A Malice mechanic is alluded to
in From ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant'', but, like its apparent [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plot significance]], never comes up in-game.
** ''From The New World'' explains "Will" as
the New World. Given the circumstances, good counterpart to Malice, and it's ''highly'' unlikely you will ''ever'' hear it. explained that too much Will is as bad as too much Malice. But there is no gameplay mechanic about Will ''or'' Malice.
** The vampires mechanics in ''Covenant'' and ''From The New World'' can feel this way too, if only because of how [[GuideDangIt little the game mentions them]] or how utilizing it often uses rare and/or expensive in-game items.


Added DiffLines:

* WastedSong: "Holy Body", which plays whenever you run out of SP during a Spirit fight in From the New World. Given the circumstances, it's ''highly'' unlikely you will ''ever'' hear it.
This list shows the last 10 events of 60. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.ShadowHearts