History YMMV / SexAndTheCity

15th Jun '18 3:45:23 PM TheLuckyCat
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** Miranda calling Carrie out for going to Paris with Alexandr just to prove a point about how she's moved on from big and telling her she's living in a fantasy land. She's proved absolutely right when Alexandr spends all day working while Carrie wanders around Paris alone and doesn't fit in with the culture, speak the language or have any friends out there.

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** Miranda calling Carrie out for going to Paris with Alexandr just to prove a point about how she's moved on from big Big and telling her she's living in a fantasy land. She's proved absolutely right when Alexandr spends all day working while Carrie wanders around Paris alone and doesn't fit in with the culture, speak the language or have any friends out there.



* MemeticMutation: Woke Charlotte is starting to make its rounds online, with people using Charlotte to point out and correct the problematic things the others (mainly Carrie) say, such as Carrie's infamous statement of ThereAreNoBisexuals.



*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was [[MySiserIsOffLimits incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother]] and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.

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*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was [[MySiserIsOffLimits [[MySisterIsOffLimits incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother]] and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.
31st May '18 8:30:45 AM Aruu
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* CatharsisFactor: Natasha giving Carrie an ''epic'' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, calling her out on ruining her marriage, causing her to several injure herself and wrecking Natasha's lunch by gatecrashing and giving a very ItsAllAboutMe flavoured apology. Carrie can't do a thing but leave with her tail between her legs, knowing she deserved the whole thing.

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* CatharsisFactor: Natasha giving Carrie an ''epic'' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, calling her out on ruining her marriage, causing her to several severely injure herself and wrecking Natasha's lunch by gatecrashing and giving a very ItsAllAboutMe flavoured apology. Carrie can't do a thing but leave with her tail between her legs, knowing she deserved the whole thing.
16th May '18 2:48:38 PM TheLuckyCat
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** When Carrie storms over to Charlotte's to demand why she didn't offer to lend her money, Charlotte points out that she is not responsible for fixing Carrie's finances and telling her she's thirty-five and needs to learn to stand on her own.

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** When Carrie storms over to Charlotte's to demand why she didn't offer to lend her money, Charlotte points out that she is not responsible for fixing Carrie's finances and telling her she's thirty-five and needs to learn to stand on her own. Unfortunately it's spoiled later by Charlotte giving Carrie her wedding ring and Carrie is ''never'' shown paying Charlotte back for it later as agreed.
** Miranda calling Carrie out for going to Paris with Alexandr just to prove a point about how she's moved on from big and telling her she's living in a fantasy land. She's proved absolutely right when Alexandr spends all day working while Carrie wanders around Paris alone and doesn't fit in with the culture, speak the language or have any friends out there.



*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was [[MyBrotherIsOffLimits incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother]] and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.

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*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was [[MyBrotherIsOffLimits [[MySiserIsOffLimits incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother]] and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.
14th May '18 2:40:03 PM youfeelingluckypunk27
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*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.

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*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was [[MyBrotherIsOffLimits incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother brother]] and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.



* AesopAmnesia: In the series, Carrie and the girls complain that their married friends view them as a "threat" in their relationship and the unfairness of it. Come the second movie, Charlotte is fretting ''constantly'' about Harry cheating on her with the Nanny. To add insult to injury, the movie "fixes" this, not by saying that Harry wouldn't cheat on her, but by stating in a throwaway line that the Nanny a lesbian. [[SarcasmMode Problem solved!]]

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* AesopAmnesia: In the series, Carrie and the girls complain that their married friends view them as a "threat" in their relationship and the unfairness of it. Come the second movie, Charlotte is fretting ''constantly'' about Harry cheating on her with the Nanny. To add insult to injury, the movie "fixes" this, not by saying that Harry wouldn't cheat on her, but by stating in a throwaway line that the Nanny is a lesbian. [[SarcasmMode Problem solved!]]
5th May '18 5:32:19 PM TheLuckyCat
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* CatharsisFactor: Natasha giving Carrie an ''epic'' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, calling her out on ruining her marriage, causing her to several injure herself and wrecking Natasha's lunch by gatecrashing and giving a very ItsAllAboutMe flavoured apology. Carrie can't do a thing but leave with her tail between her legs, knowing she deserved the whole thing.
** When Carrie storms over to Charlotte's to demand why she didn't offer to lend her money, Charlotte points out that she is not responsible for fixing Carrie's finances and telling her she's thirty-five and needs to learn to stand on her own.


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*** That wasn't the actual problem - the guy's sister was incredibly overprotective and clingy towards her brother and told Samantha she didn't want him dating a white woman, but Samantha realised she actually just didn't want her brother dating ''any'' woman, period and when he refused to confront his sister, she dumped him.


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** Carrie whining about Natasha and her friend giving her "the look" when accidentally bumping into them, especially because she and the audience knows she deserves it (she ''slept with Natasha's husband''), but she spend an entire episode bitching, complaining and practically stalking Natasha until Natasha [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech epically tells her off.]]
29th Apr '18 8:06:23 AM Mumbles1887
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** Considering all the other kinky and unorthodox things Samantha did, why all the fuss and controversy about her dating a Black man?
23rd Apr '18 9:11:31 AM JamesAustin
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** A few examples, but most notably with Carrie and Aiden after she had an affair with Big. He was still deeply hurt by it, could no longer trust her at all, and in the end they realized the damage was done and there.
** Charlotte telling Miranda that she likely won't be able to have children [[AvertedTrope is no saving the relationship]].

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** A few examples, but most notably with Carrie and Aiden after she had an affair with Big. He was still deeply hurt by it, could no longer trust her at all, and in the end they realized the damage was done and there.there [[AvertedTrope is no saving the relationship]].
** Charlotte telling Miranda that she likely won't be able to have children [[AvertedTrope is no saving the relationship]].
children.
23rd Apr '18 9:07:57 AM JamesAustin
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* DesignatedVillain: Trey during his and Charlotte's disastrous marriage. While he was certainly far from perfect, Charlotte conveniently overlooked the fact that she rushed into marrying him, rushed into having a baby two seconds after they reconciled, and went completely overboard with her efforts to procure a child once it was learned that she had fertility problems--infertility treatments, support groups, adoption lists, etc. When an exhausted Trey asks if they can simply take a break from all the baby-making efforts, his completely understandable request is treated like a horrible betrayal and it's pretty much the beginning of the end for them. She dumps the blame for the failure of their marriage squarely on his shoulders and never once sees where she contributed to it.

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* DesignatedVillain: DesignatedVillain:
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Trey during his and Charlotte's disastrous marriage. While he was certainly far from perfect, Charlotte conveniently overlooked the fact that she rushed into marrying him, rushed into having a baby two seconds after they reconciled, and went completely overboard with her efforts to procure a child once it was learned that she had fertility problems--infertility treatments, support groups, adoption lists, etc. When an exhausted Trey asks if they can simply take a break from all the baby-making efforts, his completely understandable request is treated like a horrible betrayal and it's pretty much the beginning of the end for them. She dumps the blame for the failure of their marriage squarely on his shoulders and never once sees where she contributed to it.



* HarsherInHindsight: Every Samantha/Carrie scene, thanks to the now-confirmed rumors of a feud between their actors. Pretty much ''every'' scene between the girls after Kim Catrall's statement that she was never really friends with ''any'' of them.
* HilariousInHindsight: Miranda's reaction to Samantha's SuddenlySexuality, considering the fact that Cynthia Nixon is engaged to another woman. (And has dealt with having fallen in love with a woman extremely well; [[IronicEcho not dissimilar to the way Samantha did, in fact.]])

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* HarsherInHindsight: Every Samantha/Carrie scene, thanks to after the now-confirmed rumors of a feud between their actors. Pretty actors were confired in February 2018. In fact, pretty much ''every'' scene between the girls girls, after Kim Catrall's statement that she was never really friends with ''any'' of them.
* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Miranda's reaction to Samantha's SuddenlySexuality, considering the fact that Cynthia Nixon is engaged to another woman. (And has dealt with having fallen in love with a woman extremely well; [[IronicEcho not dissimilar to the way Samantha did, in fact.]])



* OneSceneWonder: Lexie Featherstone.

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* OneSceneWonder: Lexie Featherstone.Featherstone, an aging HardDrinkingPartyGirl played by Kristen Johnston who appeared in the show's third-to-last episode "Splat!", in which she complains about how bored life has become to her before falling to her death from an open window. It went to the point that ''Vulture'' [[http://www.vulture.com/2013/12/sex-and-the-city-oral-history-splat-episode.html made an article about the episode alone.]]



* StrangledByTheRedString: Steve and Miranda. Throughout their on again/off again relationship, she seemed angry or annoyed at him most of the time, outright asking him "What are you, fucking crazy?" when he proposed to her after she got pregnant, explicitly saying that they were not in love--something he readily agreed with. They co-parent very effectively, but there's zero sign of them rebuilding their relationship. Literally out of nowhere, she declares herself to be madly in love with him and that he's the love of her life. She acts like a bitch to and about his perfectly nice new girlfriend, rebuffing the woman's sincere attempts at getting along with her, and ditches her own perfect new boyfriend to reunite with Steve. The whole thing comes across as though the writers just rushed them into it so that Miranda could EarnYourHappyEnding in time for the series finale.
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] because Miranda's character arc is her learning to [[DefrostingIceQueen let her guard down and open up to others,]] especially Steve. Steve's love for her is always clear, even when he dates other women, and there are hints even before Brady is conceived that Miranda is jealous of Steve's new flame but won't admit it.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: The plot of one episode revolves around Carrie refusing to get an email address, because she considers it a [[NewMediaAreEvil weird sex thing.]]

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Steve and Miranda. Throughout their on again/off again relationship, she seemed angry or annoyed at him most of the time, outright asking him "What are you, fucking crazy?" when he proposed to her after she got pregnant, explicitly saying that they were not in love--something he readily agreed with. They co-parent very effectively, but there's zero sign of them rebuilding their relationship. Literally out of nowhere, she declares herself to be madly in love with him and that he's the love of her life. She acts like a bitch to and about his perfectly nice new girlfriend, rebuffing the woman's sincere attempts at getting along with her, and ditches her own perfect new boyfriend to reunite with Steve. The whole thing comes across as though the writers just rushed them into it so that Miranda could EarnYourHappyEnding in time for the series finale.
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]
finale. {{Justified|Trope}} because Miranda's character arc is her learning to [[DefrostingIceQueen let her guard down and open up to others,]] especially Steve. Steve's love for her is always clear, even when he dates other women, and there are hints even before Brady is conceived that Miranda is jealous of Steve's new flame but won't admit it.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: The plot of one episode revolves around Carrie refusing to get an email address, because she considers it a weird sex thing. [[NewMediaAreEvil weird sex thing.]]New Media Are Kinky]]?



** Carrie smokes cigarettes a lot. Back when the series began, it was questionable- but acceptable. Nowadays it would not be acceptable- and would be a major turnoff towards a lot of dates.
*** She also frequently lights up in other people's homes without asking permission, then acts appalled when someone asks her to smoke on the terrace. DesignatedHero much?
** Carrie's [[NoBisexuals attitude]] [[HolierThanThou about bisexuality]] also has aged poorly.
*** While Carrie's beliefs--that bisexuality is a Gen-Y fad, that bisexuals are confused, and that identifying as a sexual orientation besides heterosexuality is a choice--were commonplace at the time of the show airing, it's especially jarring that a sex columnist is so ill-informed. Conversely, Samantha dismisses Carrie's dismissal of bisexuals (and her discomfort with her current boyfriend having a male ex), proposing a gender-fluid future of pansexuality in the then-nearing turn of the millennium; her viewpoint remains progressive even by today's standards.

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** Carrie smokes cigarettes a lot. Back when the series began, it was questionable- but acceptable. Nowadays it would not be acceptable- and would be a major turnoff towards a lot of dates.
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dates. She also frequently lights up in other people's homes without asking permission, then acts appalled when someone asks her to smoke on the terrace. DesignatedHero much?
** Carrie's [[NoBisexuals attitude]] [[HolierThanThou about bisexuality]] also has aged poorly.
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poorly. While Carrie's her beliefs--that bisexuality is a Gen-Y fad, that bisexuals are confused, and that identifying as a sexual orientation besides heterosexuality is a choice--were commonplace at the time of the show airing, it's especially jarring that a sex columnist is so ill-informed. Conversely, Samantha dismisses Carrie's dismissal of bisexuals (and her discomfort with her current boyfriend having a male ex), proposing a gender-fluid future of pansexuality in the then-nearing turn of the millennium; her viewpoint remains progressive even by today's standards.



* {{Wangst}}: Carrie's ''endless'' whining about Big and how he doesn't do X for her can get very annoying.

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* {{Wangst}}: {{Wangst}}:
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Carrie's ''endless'' whining about Big and how he doesn't do X for her can get very annoying.



* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack: A few examples, but most notably with Carrie and Aiden after she had an affair with Big. He was still deeply hurt by it, could no longer trust her at all, and in the end they realized the damage was done and there.
** Charlotte telling Miranda that she likely won't be able to have children. [[AvertedTrope is no saving the relationship]].

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack: WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHerBack:
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A few examples, but most notably with Carrie and Aiden after she had an affair with Big. He was still deeply hurt by it, could no longer trust her at all, and in the end they realized the damage was done and there.
** Charlotte telling Miranda that she likely won't be able to have children. children [[AvertedTrope is no saving the relationship]].



* AesopAmnesia: In the series, Carrie and the girls complain that their married friends view them as a "threat" in their relationship and the unfairness of it. Come the second movie, Charlotte is fretting ''constantly'' about Harry cheating on her with the Nanny. To add insult to injury, the movie "fixes" this, not by saying that Harry wouldn't cheat on her, but by making the Nanny a lesbian. [[SarcasmMode Problem solved!]]

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* AesopAmnesia: In the series, Carrie and the girls complain that their married friends view them as a "threat" in their relationship and the unfairness of it. Come the second movie, Charlotte is fretting ''constantly'' about Harry cheating on her with the Nanny. To add insult to injury, the movie "fixes" this, not by saying that Harry wouldn't cheat on her, but by making stating in a throwaway line that the Nanny a lesbian. [[SarcasmMode Problem solved!]]



* {{Wangst}}: When Big almost calls his and Carrie's wedding off in the first movie, Carrie's reaction is to go to bed sick and depressed like someone died, and Samantha at one point has to ''spoonfeed'' her while she basically looks like a victim of war or a natural disaster.

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* {{Wangst}}: {{Wangst}}:
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When Big almost calls his and Carrie's wedding off in the first movie, Carrie's reaction is to go to bed sick and depressed like someone died, and Samantha at one point has to ''spoonfeed'' her while she basically looks like a victim of war or a natural disaster.
21st Apr '18 1:18:59 PM Evighet
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Carrie in the first film, after Big gets cold feet at the wedding. Not that what happened to her wasn't humiliating and devastating, but it's treated as by far the worst thing any of the characters on the show has been through - in particular by Carrie herself, who at one point needs to be spoon fed by Samantha. This despite the other characters having gone through things like breast cancer (Samantha) and a miscarriage (Charlotte). Within the movie itself it stands out the most in contrast to Miranda, whose husband of many years (who is also the father of her son) cheats on her and their marriage falls apart for several months. Somehow Carrie doesn't find that to be anywhere near as bad as what she herself is going through. In general, the characters don't give Miranda a fraction of the sympathy and support that they give to Carrie.
19th Apr '18 7:37:02 AM DrOO7
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** Big practically forcing himself on Carrie--grabbing and kissing her even while she pushes him away and says "Fuck you" (in other words, "''NO''") didn't look right even then and it sure as hell doesn't now.
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