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!!The book series by Simon R. Green:



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter [=McAlphine=] in ''For Heaven's Eyes Only'' intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence.]]

!!The web series by Mashed:

* MemeticMutation: "They were imposters, Sonic!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A scene from Secret Histories of Sonic and Tails which is Tails' response to Sonic asking him why he killed Knuckles and Shadow which became popular in late 2021 due to the rise of ironic [[VideoGame/AmongUs Among Us memes.]][[/labelnote]]
* NightmareFuel:
** "Secret History of Super Mario Bros." features Mario as a psychopath with an iron rule over everyone, with every attempt at revolting being immediately shut down, and Sonic being executed over a [[DisproportionateRetribution long dead console.]]
** Tails from the "Secret History of Sonic and Tails" video is presented as very creepy due to his [[NightmareFace disturbing facial expressions]] as well as causing the gory deaths of Knuckles and Shadow by tampering with their devices, simply because [[{{Yandere}} they were getting too close to Sonic]]. [[spoiler:Special mention goes to the ending where he is torturing a guy he painted to look like Sonic while shots of various corpses, both characters from ''Sonic'' like Big and Mighty and others like [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]] and [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Yoshi]], are graphically shown during the man's screams.]]
** [[Franchise/MortalKombat Raiden]] from the fourth episode can also scare one crapless with his perpetual SlasherSmile, eyes with pupils so small you may not notice them, and his [[TheSociopath complete disregard for both Earthrealmers and Outworlders' lives]].
* TearJerker: "Secret History of Mega Man" has both Dr. Light and Dr. Wily portrayed sympathetically, with Dr. Light wanting Dr. Wily to know his son is alive while Dr. Wily wants to let his son rest once and for all.

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter [=McAlphine=] in ''For Heaven's Eyes Only'' intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence.]]

!!The web series by Mashed:

* MemeticMutation: "They were imposters, Sonic!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A scene from Secret Histories of Sonic and Tails which is Tails' response to Sonic asking him why he killed Knuckles and Shadow which became popular in late 2021 due to the rise of ironic [[VideoGame/AmongUs Among Us memes.]][[/labelnote]]
* NightmareFuel:
** "Secret History of Super Mario Bros." features Mario as a psychopath with an iron rule over everyone, with every attempt at revolting being immediately shut down, and Sonic being executed over a [[DisproportionateRetribution long dead console.]]
** Tails from the "Secret History of Sonic and Tails" video is presented as very creepy due to his [[NightmareFace disturbing facial expressions]] as well as causing the gory deaths of Knuckles and Shadow by tampering with their devices, simply because [[{{Yandere}} they were getting too close to Sonic]]. [[spoiler:Special mention goes to the ending where he is torturing a guy he painted to look like Sonic while shots of various corpses, both characters from ''Sonic'' like Big and Mighty and others like [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]] and [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Yoshi]], are graphically shown during the man's screams.]]
** [[Franchise/MortalKombat Raiden]] from the fourth episode can also scare one crapless with his perpetual SlasherSmile, eyes with pupils so small you may not notice them, and his [[TheSociopath complete disregard for both Earthrealmers and Outworlders' lives]].
* TearJerker: "Secret History of Mega Man" has both Dr. Light and Dr. Wily portrayed sympathetically, with Dr. Light wanting Dr. Wily to know his son is alive while Dr. Wily wants to let his son rest once and for all.
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** [[Franchise/MortalKombat Raiden]] from the fourth episode can also scare one crapless with his perpetual SlasherSmile, eyes with pupils so small you may not notice them, and his [[TheSociopath complete disregard for both Earthrealmers and Outworlders' lives]].

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Entry pimping the web series by Mashed because the tropes that should be in Secret Histories are there instead.


!!The book series by Simon R. Green:



* FunnyMoments: In a very dark example, at the end of ''Daemons Are Forever'', [[spoiler: the drone inside Molly]] is holding her hostage with a knife to her throat, and Giles and Eddy ignore the situation (knowing that [[spoiler: if it does kill Molly, that's what she would want, since she would rather [[DyingAsYourself die than be fully possessed]] ]]) to argue about who gets to make the HeroicSacrifice. It gets ''very'' put out that they're not paying attention, and keeps petulantly reminding them that hey, hostage situation here, until Giles reaches out and takes the knife casually, then resumes the argument like nothing happened.

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* FunnyMoments: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: In a very dark example, at the end of ''Daemons Are Forever'', [[spoiler: the drone inside Molly]] is holding her hostage with a knife to her throat, and Giles and Eddy ignore the situation (knowing that [[spoiler: if it does kill Molly, that's what she would want, since she would rather [[DyingAsYourself die than be fully possessed]] ]]) to argue about who gets to make the HeroicSacrifice. It gets ''very'' put out that they're not paying attention, and keeps petulantly reminding them that hey, hostage situation here, until Giles reaches out and takes the knife casually, then resumes the argument like nothing happened.



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter [=McAlphine=] in ''For Heaven's Eyes Only'' intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter [=McAlphine=] in ''For Heaven's Eyes Only'' intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence.]]]]

!!The web series by Mashed:

* MemeticMutation: "They were imposters, Sonic!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A scene from Secret Histories of Sonic and Tails which is Tails' response to Sonic asking him why he killed Knuckles and Shadow which became popular in late 2021 due to the rise of ironic [[VideoGame/AmongUs Among Us memes.]][[/labelnote]]
* NightmareFuel:
** "Secret History of Super Mario Bros." features Mario as a psychopath with an iron rule over everyone, with every attempt at revolting being immediately shut down, and Sonic being executed over a [[DisproportionateRetribution long dead console.]]
** Tails from the "Secret History of Sonic and Tails" video is presented as very creepy due to his [[NightmareFace disturbing facial expressions]] as well as causing the gory deaths of Knuckles and Shadow by tampering with their devices, simply because [[{{Yandere}} they were getting too close to Sonic]]. [[spoiler:Special mention goes to the ending where he is torturing a guy he painted to look like Sonic while shots of various corpses, both characters from ''Sonic'' like Big and Mighty and others like [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]] and [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Yoshi]], are graphically shown during the man's screams.]]
* TearJerker: "Secret History of Mega Man" has both Dr. Light and Dr. Wily portrayed sympathetically, with Dr. Light wanting Dr. Wily to know his son is alive while Dr. Wily wants to let his son rest once and for all.
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* BrokenBase: The final crossover novel, ''Night Fall'', has the fans divided on whether or not it managed to live up to the hype of what was supposed to be both a grand finale for the Nightside/Secret Histories books and an epic showdown between the Droods and the residents of the Nightside. Some say it delivers on both fronts, offering an enormous battle between both series' characters and enough twists and turns in the story to make the story memorable. Others feel that [[spoiler: the numerous undignified deaths on both sides (especially in the Nightside camp]] and the generally bizarre treatment of various established characters [[note]](John Taylor [[spoiler: being repeatedly bossed around and treated poorly by the New Authorities as the current Walker]], Eddie Drood and Molly Metcalf [[spoiler: losing to John in the same kind of lopsided CurbStompBattle that most standard Nightside villains fall victim to]], characters like Count Video being MIA with no given explanation, the Lord of Thorns doing practically nothing, etc.)[[/note]] held the novel back, as did a few promising narrative developments that essentially led nowhere. (such as [[spoiler: Lilith being brought back from Limbo so that the Nightside characters can attempt to set her loose against the Droods, only to reveal that the once-intimidating [[PhysicalGod Physical Goddess]] has settled down in her time away.]])

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* BrokenBase: The final crossover novel, ''Night Fall'', has the fans divided on whether or not it managed to live up to the hype of what was supposed to be both a grand finale for the Nightside/Secret Histories books and an epic showdown between the Droods and the residents of the Nightside. Some say it delivers on both fronts, offering an enormous battle between both series' characters and enough twists and turns in the story to make the story memorable. Others feel that [[spoiler: the numerous undignified deaths on both sides (especially in the Nightside camp]] camp)]] and the generally bizarre treatment of various established characters [[note]](John Taylor [[spoiler: being repeatedly bossed around and treated poorly by the New Authorities as the current Walker]], Eddie Drood and Molly Metcalf [[spoiler: losing to John in the same kind of lopsided CurbStompBattle that most standard Nightside villains fall victim to]], characters like Count Video being MIA with no given explanation, the Lord of Thorns doing practically nothing, etc.)[[/note]] held the novel back, as did a few promising narrative developments that essentially led nowhere. (such as [[spoiler: Lilith being brought back from Limbo so that the Nightside characters can attempt to set her loose against the Droods, only to reveal that the once-intimidating [[PhysicalGod Physical Goddess]] has settled down in her time away.]])
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* BrokenBase: The final crossover novel, ''Night Fall'', has the fans divided on whether or not it managed to live up to the hype of what was supposed to be both a grand finale for the Nightside/Secret Histories books and an epic showdown between the Droods and the residents of the Nightside. Some say it delivers on both fronts, offering an enormous battle between both series' characters and enough twists and turns in the story to make the story memorable. Others feel that [[spoiler: the numerous undignified deaths on both sides (especially in the Nightside camp]] and the generally bizarre treatment of various established characters [[note]](John Taylor [[spoiler: being repeatedly bossed around and treated poorly by the New Authorities as the current Walker]], Eddie Drood and Molly Metcalf [[spoiler: losing to John in the same kind of lopsided CurbStompBattle that most standard Nightside villains fall victim to]], characters like Count Video being MIA with no given explanation, the Lord of Thorns doing practically nothing, etc.)[[/note]] held the novel back, as did a few promising narrative developments that essentially led nowhere. (such as [[spoiler: Lilith being brought back from Limbo so that the Nightside characters can attempt to set her loose against the Droods, only to reveal that the once-intimidating [[PhysicalGod Physical Goddess]] has settled down in her time away.]])



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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of Funny]]: In a very dark example, at the end of ''Daemons Are Forever'', [[spoiler: the drone inside Molly]] is holding her hostage with a knife to her throat, and Giles and Eddy ignore the situation (knowing that [[spoiler: if it does kill Molly, that's what she would want, since she would rather [[DyingAsYourself die than be fully possessed]] ]]) to argue about who gets to make the HeroicSacrifice. It gets ''very'' put out that they're not paying attention, and keeps petulantly reminding them that hey, hostage situation here, until Giles reaches out and takes the knife casually, then resumes the argument like nothing happened.

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of Funny]]: FunnyMoments: In a very dark example, at the end of ''Daemons Are Forever'', [[spoiler: the drone inside Molly]] is holding her hostage with a knife to her throat, and Giles and Eddy ignore the situation (knowing that [[spoiler: if it does kill Molly, that's what she would want, since she would rather [[DyingAsYourself die than be fully possessed]] ]]) to argue about who gets to make the HeroicSacrifice. It gets ''very'' put out that they're not paying attention, and keeps petulantly reminding them that hey, hostage situation here, until Giles reaches out and takes the knife casually, then resumes the argument like nothing happened.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter McAlphine intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter McAlphine [=McAlphine=] in ''For Heaven's Eyes Only'' intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence]]influence.]]
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* CompleteMonster: The Drood family as the protectors of humanity have faced many nasty villains. A list of the worst of the worst can be found in [[Monster/SimonRGreen the franchise page]].
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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheDreaded Grendel Rex]], real name Gerard Drood, is a man who [[DeityOfHumanOrigin desired to be a god]] and carve his face into the moon after [[TheLostLenore the death of his beloved wife Elspeth]]. Trying to usurp and recreate humanity, Gerard allowed his family to defeat and seal him away so he could return later when they grew complacent. Gerard manipulates villains such as Edmund Drood, knowing Edmund will require the help of Gerard, and allow Gerard to usurp the plan later. After this, Gerard begins to put his plan into motion, only to cease when he meets Morgana le Fay, the two falling in LoveAtFirstSight. Departing, Gerard leaves the hero Eddie with one last piece of knowledge: that the face he tried to sear into the moon was actually Elspeth's.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators led by Peter McAlphine intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]Sacrifice. They plan to brainwash humanity into murdering their children which would damn the entire world to hell's influence]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: Roger and Harry certainly have their moments, especially as related to the PowerOfLove, but nevertheless there's something a little...well, unfortunate about the fact the most prominent gay couple in the series also happen to be half-siblings (or possibly third-siblings, given how succubi reproduce). It's not ever really explored--although, to be fair, they weren't raised together, and half-demons probably don't care about that kind of thing--and seems more as if it was thrown in to undermine the positive aspects of the relationship by making it inherently kind of perverted. [[spoiler: Especially because they're both killed off, which brings the total of gay characters in the series down to 0, unless you want to the count the clones and Freddie, who appears very briefly and is every inch the shallow stereotype.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: Roger and Harry certainly have their moments, especially as related to the PowerOfLove, but nevertheless there's something a little...well, unfortunate about the fact the most prominent gay couple in the series also happen to be half-siblings (or possibly third-siblings, given how succubi reproduce). It's not ever really explored--although, to be fair, they weren't raised together, and half-demons probably don't care about that kind of thing--and seems more as if it was thrown in to undermine the positive aspects of the relationship by making it inherently kind of perverted. [[spoiler: Especially because they're both killed off, which brings the total of gay characters in the series down to 0, unless you want to the count the clones and Freddie, who appears very briefly and is every inch the shallow stereotype.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: Roger and Harry certainly have their moments, especially as related to the PowerOfLove, but nevertheless there's something a little...well, unfortunate about the fact the most prominent gay couple in the series also happen to be half-siblings (or possibly third-siblings, given how succubi reproduce). It's not ever really explored--although, to be fair, they weren't raised together, and half-demons probably don't care about that kind of thing--and seems more as if it was thrown in to undermine the positive aspects of the relationship by making it inherently kind of perverted. [[spoiler: Especially because they're both killed off, which brings the total of gay characters in the series down to 0, unless you want to the count the clones and Freddie, who appears very briefly and is every inch the shallow stereotype.
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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of Funny]]: In a very dark example, at the end of ''Daemons Are Forever'', [[spoiler: the drone inside Molly]] is holding her hostage with a knife to her throat, and Giles and Eddy ignore the situation (knowing that [[spoiler: if it does kill Molly, that's what she would want, since she would rather [[DyingAsYourself die than be fully possessed]] ]]) to argue about who gets to make the HeroicSacrifice. It gets ''very'' put out that they're not paying attention, and keeps petulantly reminding them that hey, hostage situation here, until Giles reaches out and takes the knife casually, then resumes the argument like nothing happened.
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* CompleteMonster: Mr. Stab.
** [[spoiler: Truman of Manifest Destiny]]
** [[spoiler: The Heart]]
** Crow Lee, and proud of it.
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** Crow Lee, and proud of it.

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** Crow Lee, and proud of it.it.
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: The Satanic conspirators intended to push ''all of humanity'' beyond this, in the eyes of Heaven, via the Great Sacrifice.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Mr. Stab.
** [[spoiler: Truman of Manifest Destiny]]
** [[spoiler: The Heart]]
** Crow Lee, and proud of it.

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