History YMMV / Scum

* RetroactiveRecognition: A young Creator/DannyJohnJules is one of the prisoners in the film version.

* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The amount of mistreatment Carlin, Davis, and other characters go through at the hands of the wardens, and even the other inmates, can make the movie hard to sit through, not helped by the fact that the antagonists remain [[KarmaHoudini karma houdinis]]. Then again, considering Scum was supposed to be a criticism of how borstals were ran back in the 70s, this was clearly intentional on the creator's part.

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of mistreatment Carlin, Davis, and other characters go through at the hands of the wardens, and even the other inmates, can make the movie hard to sit through, not helped by the fact that the antagonists remain [[KarmaHoudini karma houdinis]]. Then again, considering Scum was supposed to be a criticism of how bortals were ran back in the 70s, this was clearly intentional on the creator's part.

* {{Anvilicious}}: The first two versions of ''Scum'' are very much this, though [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped not entirely without justification.]] To non Britons, it should be noted that the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borstal Borstal]] system was abolished in 1982. However, Archer seems to have essentially been designed to provide [[AuthorTract Author Tract]] and [[AuthorFilibuster Author Filibuster]]. ''Dog Pound'' isn't ''quite'' as Anvilicious.... at least until the very end, when the riot police show up.

* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A good chunk of the criticisms level toward ''Dog Pound'' were this (well, at least on [[{{GIFT}} IMDB]]; the actual critical consensus toward it was generally positive). Naturally, the rest of the criticism was [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks They Changed It, Now It Sucks]].

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of mistreatment Carlin, Davis, and other characters go through can make the movie hard to sit through, not helped by the fact that the antagonists remain [[KarmaHoudini karma houdinis]]. Then again, considering Scum was supposed to be a criticism of how bortals were ran back in the 70s, this was clearly intentional on the creator's part.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Creator/RayWinstone came to feel that he'd done this for the movie version of ''Scum''. In the original Carlin is shown to be in a relationship with another inmate, but on remaking the film two years later he told the director that he thought it'd be better if that were left out, so it was. He later came to regret this, blaming it on his own insecurity as a young man.

* NightmareFuel / {{Tearjerker}}: The rape scene and the suicide scenes involving [[spoiler:Davis]] definitely qualify.
* TheWoobie: Davis. DEAR GOD '''''DAVIS'''''! Each version seems to delight in finding new ways to woobify him.

* NightmareFuel / Tearjerker: The rape scene and the suicide scenes involving [[spoiler:Davis]] definitely qualify.

* NightmareFuel: The rape scene and the suicide scenes definitely qualify.

** Roy Minton, who wrote both versions of ''Scum'', thought this about the film, insofar as they cast a lot of the same actors that had been in the TV version two years earlier (in particular Ray Winstone, John Blundell and Phil Daniels.) Minton thought it was more upsetting to see guys barely out of their teens being that violent; when they were 20 or older, it seemed less unnatural.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Ray Winstone came to feel that he'd done this for the movie version of ''Scum''. In the original Carlin is shown to be in a relationship with another inmate, but on remaking the film two years later he told the director that he thought it'd be better if that were left out, so it was. He later came to regret this, blaming it on his own insecurity as a young man.

* {{Anvilicious}}: The first two versions of ''Scum'' are very much this, though [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped not entirely without justification.]] To non Britons, it should be noted that the Borstal system was abolished in 1982. However, Archer seems to have essentially been designed to provide [[AuthorTract Author Tract]] and [[AuthorFilibuster Author Filibuster]]. ''Dog Pound'' isn't ''quite'' as Anvilicious.... at least until the very end, when the riot police show up.

CrossesTheLineTwice: The scene where Davis brags about fucking his girlfriend's mom.

* {{Squick}}: In ''Dog Pound'', The whole scene where Davis describes his [[BlatantLies encounter with his]] [[ParentalIncest mother]] will make most cringe (if they aren't busy [[CrowningMomentOfFunny laughing, that is]]). The fact that this is [[Series/{{Degrassi}} Spinner]], no doubt takes this [[UpToEleven up to 11]] for many viewers.

* {{Squick}}: In ''Dog Pound'', The whole scene where Davis describes his [[BlatantLies encounter with his]] [[ParentalIncest mother]] will make most cringe (if they aren't busy [[CrowningMomentOfFunny laughing, that is]]). The fact that this is [[{{Degrassi}} Spinner]], no doubt takes this [[UpToEleven up to 11]] for many viewers.
* TheWoobie: Davis. DEAR GOD '''''DAVIS'''''! Each version seems to delight in finding new ways to woobify him.