History YMMV / ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman

8th Oct '16 1:03:17 AM Supertrooper
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* ValuesDissonance: What ultimately drives many newcomers away from the show, in favor of its reboot, ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds.'' There are numerous instances of assault, physical/verbal abuse, and sexism (mostly towards women), that they unfortunately sour the show's well-intended environmentalist message. Examples include:

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* ValuesDissonance: What ultimately drives many newcomers away from the show, in favor of its reboot, ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds.'' There are numerous so many instances of assault, physical/verbal abuse, and sexism (mostly towards women), that they unfortunately sour the show's well-intended environmentalist message. Examples include:
8th Oct '16 1:01:00 AM Supertrooper
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* ValuesDissonance: What ultimately drives many newcomers away from the show, in favor of its reboot, ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds.'' There are numerous instances of assault, physical/verbal abuse, and sexism (mostly towards women), that they unfortunately sour the show's well-intended environmentalist message. Examples include...
** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40 (to be fair here he was reprimanding her for running off on her own and almost getting killed and making the rest of the team worry). These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.*** Jun being slapped by Joe in another episode tends to get more cringe reactions, along with another slap moment from Ken in "Gatchaman II". In moments that aren't related to her being slapped, her fright over a robotic ant in an early episode or other moments where she comes off less strong or relying on Ken for advice tend to be critiqued (see "What Measure Is A Non Badass" below). The "Battle of the Planets" and "G-Force" adaptations attempted to vindicate her by either cutting these moments of panic or changing her lines to make her sound more knowledgeable or tougher.

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* ValuesDissonance: What ultimately drives many newcomers away from the show, in favor of its reboot, ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds.'' There are numerous instances of assault, physical/verbal abuse, and sexism (mostly towards women), that they unfortunately sour the show's well-intended environmentalist message. Examples include...
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** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40 (to be fair here he was reprimanding her for running off on her own and almost getting killed and making the rest of the team worry). These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.see.
*** Jun being slapped by Joe in another episode tends to get more cringe reactions, along with another slap moment from Ken in "Gatchaman II". In moments that aren't related to her being slapped, her fright over a robotic ant in an early episode or other moments where she comes off less strong or relying on Ken for advice tend to be critiqued (see "What Measure Is A Non Badass" below). The "Battle of the Planets" and "G-Force" adaptations attempted to vindicate her by either cutting these moments of panic or changing her lines to make her sound more knowledgeable or tougher.
8th Oct '16 1:00:18 AM Supertrooper
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* ValuesDissonance: Kentaro Washio is seen as a callous, cold and selfish father who abandons his son Ken aka G-1 to work [[spoiler: as Red Impulse]] for the peace in the whole world. In Japan, however, he's seen as an heroic figure who loves his son so deeply that he sacrificed their time together to to protect the world so Ken will have a future.
** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40 (to be fair here he was reprimanding her for running off on her own and almost getting killed and making the rest of the team worry). These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.
*** Jun being slapped by Joe in another episode tends to get more cringe reactions, along with another slap moment from Ken in "Gatchaman II". In moments that aren't related to her being slapped, her fright over a robotic ant in an early episode or other moments where she comes off less strong or relying on Ken for advice tend to be critiqued (see "What Measure Is A Non Badass" below). The "Battle of the Planets" and "G-Force" adaptations attempted to vindicate her by either cutting these moments of panic or changing her lines to make her sound more knowledgeable or tougher.

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* ValuesDissonance: Kentaro Washio is seen as a callous, cold What ultimately drives many newcomers away from the show, in favor of its reboot, ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds.'' There are numerous instances of assault, physical/verbal abuse, and selfish father who abandons his son Ken aka G-1 to work [[spoiler: as Red Impulse]] for the peace in the whole world. In Japan, however, he's seen as an heroic figure who loves his son so deeply sexism (mostly towards women), that he sacrificed their time together to to protect they unfortunately sour the world so Ken will have a future.
show's well-intended environmentalist message. Examples include...
** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40 (to be fair here he was reprimanding her for running off on her own and almost getting killed and making the rest of the team worry). These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.
see.*** Jun being slapped by Joe in another episode tends to get more cringe reactions, along with another slap moment from Ken in "Gatchaman II". In moments that aren't related to her being slapped, her fright over a robotic ant in an early episode or other moments where she comes off less strong or relying on Ken for advice tend to be critiqued (see "What Measure Is A Non Badass" below). The "Battle of the Planets" and "G-Force" adaptations attempted to vindicate her by either cutting these moments of panic or changing her lines to make her sound more knowledgeable or tougher.tougher.
** Kentaro Washio is seen as a callous, cold and selfish father who abandons his son Ken aka G-1 to work [[spoiler: as Red Impulse]] for the peace **in the whole world. In Japan, however, he's seen as an heroic figure who loves his son so deeply that he sacrificed their time together to to protect the world so Ken will have a future.
24th Sep '16 4:58:00 PM nombretomado
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Many people think Jun is just a useless Chick and not as "strong" as modern heroines. Thing is, considering that the series was written in TheSeventies, Jun's character was actually ''[[FairForItsDay revolutionary]]'' by that time's standards, kicking ass with the best and blowing up stuff real good as the team's demolitions expert. She and other girls like [[{{Cyborg 009}} Francoise/003]] and [[Anime/MazingerZ Sayaka Yumi]] were among the first {{Action Girl}}s of oldschool anime, setting the precedent for many other more action-oriented ladies in anime/manga as a whole. Not to mention her all-male TrueCompanions treated her with respect and care (with the exception of [[BrattyHalfpint Jinpei]], and he still didn't go '''that''' far) and they stuck by her side whenever she needed it.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Many people think Jun is just a useless Chick and not as "strong" as modern heroines. Thing is, considering that the series was written in TheSeventies, Jun's character was actually ''[[FairForItsDay revolutionary]]'' by that time's standards, kicking ass with the best and blowing up stuff real good as the team's demolitions expert. She and other girls like [[{{Cyborg [[Manga/{{Cyborg 009}} Francoise/003]] and [[Anime/MazingerZ Sayaka Yumi]] were among the first {{Action Girl}}s of oldschool anime, setting the precedent for many other more action-oriented ladies in anime/manga as a whole. Not to mention her all-male TrueCompanions treated her with respect and care (with the exception of [[BrattyHalfpint Jinpei]], and he still didn't go '''that''' far) and they stuck by her side whenever she needed it.
12th Sep '15 8:39:28 AM MechWarrior
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* AwesomeMusic: The main theme. '''WHOAAA! GATCHAMAAAAAAN! GATCHAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!'''

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The main theme. '''WHOAAA! GATCHAMAAAAAAN! GATCHAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!'''
19th Jul '15 4:58:10 PM nombretomado
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Many people think Jun is just a useless Chick and not as "strong" as modern heroines. Thing is, considering that the series was written in TheSeventies, Jun's character was actually ''[[FairForItsDay revolutionary]]'' by that time's standards, kicking ass with the best and blowing up stuff real good as the team's demolitions expert. She and other girls like [[{{Cyborg 009}} Francoise/003]] and [[MazingerZ Sayaka Yumi]] were among the first {{Action Girl}}s of oldschool anime, setting the precedent for many other more action-oriented ladies in anime/manga as a whole. Not to mention her all-male TrueCompanions treated her with respect and care (with the exception of [[BrattyHalfpint Jinpei]], and he still didn't go '''that''' far) and they stuck by her side whenever she needed it.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Many people think Jun is just a useless Chick and not as "strong" as modern heroines. Thing is, considering that the series was written in TheSeventies, Jun's character was actually ''[[FairForItsDay revolutionary]]'' by that time's standards, kicking ass with the best and blowing up stuff real good as the team's demolitions expert. She and other girls like [[{{Cyborg 009}} Francoise/003]] and [[MazingerZ [[Anime/MazingerZ Sayaka Yumi]] were among the first {{Action Girl}}s of oldschool anime, setting the precedent for many other more action-oriented ladies in anime/manga as a whole. Not to mention her all-male TrueCompanions treated her with respect and care (with the exception of [[BrattyHalfpint Jinpei]], and he still didn't go '''that''' far) and they stuck by her side whenever she needed it.
8th Jun '15 3:47:40 PM Jarkes
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the upcoming movie, [[Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger Shinken Red]]'s actor will be playing as Ken the Eagle, whom [[Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman Red Hawk]] is based on.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In the upcoming movie, live-action film, [[Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger Shinken Red]]'s actor will be playing as plays Ken the Eagle, whom [[Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman Red Hawk]] is based on.on.
** Additionally, the live-action film version of the female version of Katse's backstory is clearly based off of that of Rie/Maria from Jetman.
8th Sep '14 3:01:04 AM MachRider1985
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* HarsherInHindsight: The episode ''Farewell, Red Impulse''. The title character [[HeroicSacrifice gives up his life]] to save the world, including his son [[spoiler:who just learned his father ''isn't'' dead as he believed for several years]]. It makes the episodes he appears in earlier in the series much more painful, especially the occasional rivalry between G-1 [[spoiler:the son]] and Red Impulse.[[note]]In Japanese culture, Kentarou "Red Impulse" Washio leaving his son Ken behind as a child to secure his future, by securing the world's future, [[ValuesDissonance is one of the most selfless and loving things]] he could have done, considering the Japanese stance on family and its importance to society; here in the West, however, he's viewed as a neglectful or even abusive father who left his child behind to throw himself into his mission for years, and then dies when he's about to come back.[[/note]]
12th Jan '14 12:20:09 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* MomentOfAwesome ([[spoiler:Joe's suicide run and heroic sacrifice at the end of the first series. At the edge of the death, with just a week of life, Joe goes on a suicide mission to bring down Galactor once. He survives a horrific torture at the hands of Berg Katse and ends up, before dying, throwing his feather knife into the doomsday machine Berg is using to use to destroy the Earth, stopping it right when the countdown reaches his number "2".]]
** Creator/{{ADV Films}} announcing AND releasing ALL 105 episodes also counts, given the fact that countless fans were fearful that the company would abort the project before it reached the final 20 episodes, which had never ever been dubbed before.
*** Sentai Filmworks (ADV's successor) managing to rescue the license to the original Gatchaman in 2013, and even redubbing the OVA series.
23rd Nov '13 11:48:42 AM ryu238
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** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40. These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.

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** Ken punching a young girl in the stomach in an early episode did not earn him too many favors in Western fandom. Neither did him slapping the same girl later in the episode, or him slapping Jun in episode 40.40 (to be fair here he was reprimanding her for running off on her own and almost getting killed and making the rest of the team worry). These can definitely be chalked up to different standards of the era and culture, though it can still be jarring to see.
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