History YMMV / ScarletWitch

8th Jun '17 2:38:52 PM Scorntex
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* LesYay: Her interactions with Jean Grey in the ''X-Men: First Class'' series were filled with these.
18th May '17 11:35:35 PM helterskelter
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* NeverLiveItDown: Her actions in M-Day and Disassembled. The popularity of those two storylines, along with her absence from the comics between 2005 and 2011, means that it's common for readers to think of her as an omnipotent RealityWarper, even though her powers don't work that way anywhere except ''Disassembled'' and ''House of M'', and both those stories have since been [[AuthorsSavingThrow explained away]] as the result of an outside source amping up her powers.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Her actions in M-Day and Disassembled. The popularity of those two storylines, along with her absence from the comics between 2005 and 2011, means that it's common for readers to think of her as an omnipotent RealityWarper, even though her powers don't work that way anywhere except ''Disassembled'' and ''House of M'', and both those stories have since been [[AuthorsSavingThrow explained away]] as the result of an outside source amping up her powers. It even affects writers at times--ComicBook/{{AXIS}} has her at reality warping status again.
18th May '17 11:23:23 PM helterskelter
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* FandomRivalry: Fans of ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} in particular dislike Wanda, or rather, how Wanda was forgiven for actions that amount to, at best, accidental genocide, while Cyclops, who's actions amounted to 'killed one guy in self defense', was treated like he was a supervillain outside of the Bendis-written X-Books, despite all mentioned above.

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* FandomRivalry: Fans of ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} in particular dislike Wanda, or rather, how Wanda was forgiven for actions that amount to, at best, accidental genocide, while Cyclops, who's actions amounted to 'killed one guy in self defense', Cyclops was treated like he was a supervillain outside of the Bendis-written X-Books, despite all mentioned above.doing far less damage in comparison.
6th May '17 12:49:51 AM helterskelter
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%%* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Avengers: The Children's Crusade''
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Avenger-Fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.
* DesignatedHero: X-Fans staunchly view her as this. Wanda continues to get pushed as a heroic figure, particularly in the aftermath of ''[=AvX=]''. However when [[spoiler: she was killed by Rogue during ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'' in retribution for what effectively amounted to ''genocide'']] for her part in Decimation, X-Fans ''cheered''.
* FandomRivalry: Fans of ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} in particular dislike Wanda, or rather, how Wanda was forgiven for actions that amount to, at best, ''accidental genocide'', while Cyclops, who's actions amounted to 'killed one guy in self defence', was treated like he was a supervillain outside of the Bendis-written X-Books, despite all mentioned above. What doesn't help matters is how Cyclops was ''clearly'' NotHimself from the beginning, while Wanda's excuse for her behaviour was retconned years later.

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%%* * AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Avengers: The Children's Crusade''
Crusade'', where an extremely remorseful Wanda is revealed to have been manipulated by Doctor Doom and have been mad by the power of the Life Force.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Avenger-Fans Avengers fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] punishment. A point of contention is while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage criminal, she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.has largely been forgiven.
* DesignatedHero: X-Fans staunchly view Similar to her as this. base-breaking status, many X-fans consider Wanda this, as she continues to get pushed operate as a heroic figure, particularly in the aftermath of ''[=AvX=]''. However when [[spoiler: she was killed by Rogue during ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'' in retribution for what effectively amounted to ''genocide'']] for her part in Decimation, X-Fans ''cheered''.
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* FandomRivalry: Fans of ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} in particular dislike Wanda, or rather, how Wanda was forgiven for actions that amount to, at best, ''accidental genocide'', accidental genocide, while Cyclops, who's actions amounted to 'killed one guy in self defence', defense', was treated like he was a supervillain outside of the Bendis-written X-Books, despite all mentioned above. What doesn't help matters is how Cyclops was ''clearly'' NotHimself from the beginning, while Wanda's excuse for her behaviour was retconned years later.



** She's one of the Avengers called out by Carol Danvers for what happened to her regarding Marcus Kang, alongside Wonder Man, which stings considering Wanda would molest Wonder Man while he was tied to a chair in ''West Coast Avengers''. And Wanda was the most shaken by Carol's speech.
* IKnewIt: The big reveal that Magneto was her father was made in the finale of the Scarlet Witch & Vision miniseries. Still, some fans may have known it earlier. In Avengers #186 Bova told Quicksilver the story of their mother Magda, who arrived to Wundagore escaping from an unnamed evil husband with terrible powers, and how they tried to give them to Robert and Madeline Frank first (the Wheezer and Ms. America, thought to be their parents back then) and then to the Maximoff. In X-Men #125, Magneto has a brief nostalgia moment about Magda, his former wife, who ran away from him. Alone, none of those issues say that he is their father, but when reading both and putting two and two toguether, the outcome was clear.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: She's been the target of a ''lot'' of character's affections, including Angel, [[{{Squick}} Toad, Mastermind]], ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, Hawkeye, The Vision, Wonder Man, Nightcrawler, Doctor Doom, Comicbook/DoctorStrange, Arkon, [[BrotherSisterIncest Quicksilver]] (at least in the Ultimate Universe), and probably more. And those are only the canon ones.

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** She's one of the Avengers called out by Carol Danvers for what happened to her regarding Marcus Kang, alongside Wonder Man, which stings considering Wanda would molest Wonder Man while he was tied to a chair in ''West Coast Avengers''. And Wanda was the most shaken by Carol's speech.
* IKnewIt: The big reveal that Magneto was her father was made in the finale of the first Scarlet Witch & Vision miniseries. Still, some fans may have known it earlier. In Avengers #186 Bova told Quicksilver the story of their mother Magda, who arrived to Wundagore escaping from an unnamed evil husband with terrible powers, and how they tried to give them to Robert and Madeline Frank first (the Wheezer and Ms. America, thought to be their parents back then) and then to the Maximoff. In X-Men #125, Magneto has a brief nostalgia moment about Magda, his former wife, who ran away from him. Alone, none of those issues say that he is their father, but when reading both and putting two and two toguether, the outcome was clear.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: She's been the target of a ''lot'' of character's affections, including Angel, [[{{Squick}} Toad, Mastermind]], Mastermind, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, Hawkeye, The Vision, Wonder Man, Nightcrawler, Doctor Doom, Comicbook/DoctorStrange, Arkon, [[BrotherSisterIncest Quicksilver]] (at least in the Ultimate Universe), and probably some more. And those are only the canon ones.



* WhatAnIdiot: Wanda going to Comicbook/DoctorDoom for help in recovering her children. It ended up with her being possessed by the all-powerful Life Force and Doom (somehow) manipulating her into decimating mutantkind. There would have been plenty of safer alternatives for her.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Wanda going to Comicbook/DoctorDoom for help in recovering her children. It ended up with her being possessed by the all-powerful Life Force and Doom (somehow) manipulating her into decimating mutantkind. There would have been plenty However desperate, no variation of safer alternatives for her.Doctor Doom's help has ever really helped anyone but Doctor Doom.
11th Nov '16 8:31:37 AM N8han11
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Avengers: The Children's Crusade''

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11th Nov '16 8:31:20 AM N8han11
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Avenger-Fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets him hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Avenger-Fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets him hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.
29th Jul '16 8:01:32 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Avenger-Fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets him hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Avenger-Fans have largely forgiven her for her actions during Disassembled/House of M, mainly because it was established in ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade that she was [[NotHimself not herself]] at that time. On the other hand, for most parts of the X-Fandom she is still {{The Scrappy}}, because she [[KarmaHoudini never got any real punishment]] while Cyclops (whose actions also happened under a mental breakdown and possession) gets him hunted down like a criminal. What doesn't help matters is that Cyclops's actions themselves were in attempts to fix the damage she caused, which makes the times she herself tries to guilt Cyclops even more ridiculous.
17th May '16 12:15:34 PM Forenperser
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* WhatAnIdiot: Wanda going to Comicbook/DoctorDoom for help in recovering her children. It ended up with her being possessed by the all-powerful Life Force and Doom (somehow) manipulating her into decimating mutantkind. There would have been plenty of safer alternatives for her.
21st Apr '16 5:45:08 AM GrigorII
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* WhatAnIdiot: Yeah Wanda, Comicbook/DoctorDoom [[SarcasmMode is surely the best person you can go to for help]], there is no way he would ever use you for his own goals... oh, wait.
21st Apr '16 5:42:51 AM GrigorII
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* IKnewIt: The big reveal that Magneto was her father was made in the finale of the Scarlet Witch & Vision miniseries. Still, some fans may have known it earlier. In Avengers #186 Bova told Quicksilver the story of their mother Magda, who arrived to Wundagore escaping from an unnamed evil husband with terrible powers, and how they tried to give them to Robert and Madeline Frank first (the Wheezer and Ms. America, thought to be their parents back then) and then to the Maximoff. In X-Men #125, Magneto has a brief nostalgia moment about Magda, his former wife, who ran away from him. Alone, none of those issues say that he is their father, but when reading both and putting two and two toguether, the outcome was clear.
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