History YMMV / SaturdayNightLive

9th Feb '17 2:58:33 PM Madrugada
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* HarsherInHindsight: While very much HilariousInHindsight for the President-elect Trump's supporters, pretty much every pre-Election Day 2016 skit is this for Hillary Clinton's supporters, since most of [=SNL=]'s skits predicted her victory. This one from '''''1994''''' which Parodied ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'', which had Newt Gingrich's guardian angel informing him that Hilary (whom he had a long-standing dislike for) was president.



* InternetBackdraft:
** Donald Trump's appearance as host during his 2016 Presidential campaign suffered from a great deal of backlash. Before the episode even aired, NBC took a lot of fire for seemingly flip-flopping on Trump after they very publicly cut ties with him months earlier. An activist organization offered viewers of the live performance $5,000 to heckle Trump by yelling out "you're a racist" on-air. And finally, after the episode aired, complaints abounded that Trump was only on the episode for 14 minutes, and his appearances were just extended campaign commercials (particularly one sketch where the entire joke was "things went well under President Trump").
** The post-election episode also came under fire for using a non-comedic cold open, something that is only reserved for massive tragedies like 9/11, Sandy Hook, or 11/13 in Paris, given that much of the nation was ''celebrating'' Trump's victory over Clinton.
** Writer Katie Rich came under fire for making a Twitter post saying that Donald Trump's ten year old son Barron will be the country's first homeschool shooter. Although she did get suspended and issued an apology for her tweet which she deleted, many felt a suspension was just a slap on the wrist, and that regardless of any opinions she may have of Donald Trump, that doesn't justify mocking a young child.



* TearJerker:
** [[http://classicajays.tumblr.com/post/7734859743/so-here-it-is-everyone-the-steve-martin-monologue Steve Martin remembering Gilda Radner the very day she died from ovarian cancer.]]
** If you were a Clinton supporter, the first [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-_ZDrypec cold open]] in the wake of Donald Trump winning the Presidential election. Kate [=McKinnon=] -- as Hillary Clinton -- sits at a piano and performs Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah", who died earlier that week.
--->'''Kate:''' [''with tears in her eyes''] I'm not giving up -- and neither should you.

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* TearJerker:
**
TearJerker: [[http://classicajays.tumblr.com/post/7734859743/so-here-it-is-everyone-the-steve-martin-monologue Steve Martin remembering Gilda Radner the very day she died from ovarian cancer.]]
** If you were a Clinton supporter, the first [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-_ZDrypec cold open]] in the wake of Donald Trump winning the Presidential election. Kate [=McKinnon=] -- as Hillary Clinton -- sits at a piano and performs Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah", who died earlier that week.
--->'''Kate:''' [''with tears in her eyes''] I'm not giving up -- and neither should you.
]]
2nd Feb '17 6:52:57 PM PsychoNormal91
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** Writer Katie Rich came under fire for making a Twitter post saying that Donald Trump's ten year old son Barron will be the country's first homeschool shooter. Although she did get suspended and issued an apology for her tweet which she deleted, many felt a suspension was just a slap on the wrist, and that regardless of any opinions she may have of Donald Trump, that doesn't justify mocking a young child.
24th Jan '17 2:53:35 PM SamuraiGal
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** The cold open for the first episode after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, which featured Kate [=McKinnon=] as Hillary Clinton sitting at a piano and performing Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" (Cohen died earlier that week), received two polar responses:
*** Many felt it was a touching and heartwarming reflection of the fears many Americans were feeling in wake of his victory -- those of social regression, persecution, deportation, rape culture, and the tolerance or even encouragement of discrimination and hate crime, amongst others -- and the hope that the Trump administration would not steer America in that direction.
*** Others felt that the show giving the election of Trump the same treatment as 9/11, the Sandy Hook shooting, and the 2015 terror attacks in Paris (the only other three events that warranted a non-comedic cold open) was an overreaction, ignored (and was insulting to) the half of the American population that supports Trump, tastelessly used Cohen's death to address a political message, and showed blatant political bias from a show that prides itself on being politically neutral.
14th Jan '17 3:43:49 PM Xtifr
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** Dick Ebersol's era. Some regard it as the high point of the show after the original cast; others think of it as a bastardized version of the original concept, designed to pimp Creator/EddieMurphy and Joe Piscopo (and later, Martin Short, Billy Crystal, and ChristopherGuest) at the expense of everyone else. [[TakeAThirdOption And there are those who say that it may not be as great as]] LorneMichaels' [[TakeAThirdOption original cast, but it is worlds better than what Jean Doumanian turned out in her short stint as executive producer]].
** Every season after the first five years has a BrokenBase (save for the seasons that were universally bad -- season 6, season 11 [[note]]though it does have some fans, if only for DennisMiller as Weekend Update anchor, and much like season 6, is viewed today as "It sucks, but it's not as bad as everyone else says."[[/note]], and season 20).
** The AndrewDiceClay episode, which got a ton of controversy from them even picking Dice Clay to host it (hell, it even was one of the deciding factors for Nora Dunn to not seek contract renewal, as she was the most disgusted by the personality Clay is known to have). It was a polarizing choice for both the cast and fans for the penultimate episode of the 15th season. This is ironic because a good bit of fans seemed to have mixed feelings about Dunn, and there have been stories about how she was viewed by the cast (not to mention that she is somewhat still vocal about her time on SNL to this day, and some bad feelings still linger).

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** Dick Ebersol's era. Some regard it as the high point of the show after the original cast; others think of it as a bastardized version of the original concept, designed to pimp Creator/EddieMurphy and Joe Piscopo (and later, Martin Short, Billy Crystal, and ChristopherGuest) Creator/ChristopherGuest) at the expense of everyone else. [[TakeAThirdOption And there are those who say that it may not be as great as]] LorneMichaels' Creator/LorneMichaels' [[TakeAThirdOption original cast, but it is worlds better than what Jean Doumanian turned out in her short stint as executive producer]].
** Every season after the first five years has a BrokenBase (save for the seasons that were universally bad -- season 6, season 11 [[note]]though it does have some fans, if only for DennisMiller Creator/DennisMiller as Weekend Update anchor, and much like season 6, is viewed today as "It sucks, but it's not as bad as everyone else says."[[/note]], and season 20).
** The AndrewDiceClay Creator/AndrewDiceClay episode, which got a ton of controversy from them even picking Dice Clay to host it (hell, it even was one of the deciding factors for Nora Dunn to not seek contract renewal, as she was the most disgusted by the personality Clay is known to have). It was a polarizing choice for both the cast and fans for the penultimate episode of the 15th season. This is ironic because a good bit of fans seemed to have mixed feelings about Dunn, and there have been stories about how she was viewed by the cast (not to mention that she is somewhat still vocal about her time on SNL to this day, and some bad feelings still linger).



** For Dick Ebersol, Creator/EddieMurphy was his pet UpToEleven, and he wasn't shy about letting you know that. SNL was basically the Eddie Murphy Show from Season 7 to 9 (until Murphy left). After that it became the Billy Crystal / ChristopherGuest / Martin Short show. Ebersole definitely thought in terms of "This person/people are the lead(s), and everyone else is backup."

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** For Dick Ebersol, Creator/EddieMurphy was his pet UpToEleven, and he wasn't shy about letting you know that. SNL was basically the Eddie Murphy Show from Season 7 to 9 (until Murphy left). After that it became the Billy Crystal / ChristopherGuest Creator/ChristopherGuest / Martin Short show. Ebersole definitely thought in terms of "This person/people are the lead(s), and everyone else is backup."
23rd Dec '16 5:27:45 PM DustSnitch
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* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny:
** [[DefiedTrope Defied]]. Improvising is a good way to find yourself banned from the show by Creator/LorneMichaels if you're a guest (unless something really goes wrong and you have to do something to keep the dead air at bay). Just ask Creator/AdrienBrody (who introduced musical guest Sean Paul while dressed as a rudeboy and rambling in a Jamaican accent when he hosted during the penultimate episode of season 28[[note]]2002-2003[[/note]]).
** Damon Wayans had a rather dull part as a prison guard in a "Mr. Monopoly" sketch (based on the game). He decided to ad-lib and play the character as a gay stereotype (who sounded like his Blaine Edwards character from the "Men on Film" sketches). He was immediately fired by Lorne Michaels, which is why he was available when ''Series/InLivingColor'' premiered.
23rd Dec '16 5:25:21 PM DustSnitch
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** Likewise (for a nonsexual example) for the Tim Robbins episode from season 18, which was the notorious episode in which Music/SineadOConnor rips UsefulNotes/PopeJohnPaulII's photo and screams, "Fight the real enemy!"
*** Then again, that's probably not so much fanservice-y as it is controversial.



** The AndrewDiceClay episode, which got a ton of controversy from them even picking Dice Clay to host it (hell, it even was one of the deciding factors for Nora Dunn to not seek contract renewal, as she was the most disgusted by the personality Clay is known to have). It was a polarizing choice for both the cast and fans for the penultimate episode of the 15th season.
*** Ironic because a good bit of fans seemed to have mixed feelings about Dunn, and there have been stories about how she was viewed by the cast (not to mention that she is somewhat still vocal about her time on SNL to this day, and some bad feelings still linger).
*** Also HilariousInHindsight is that this was also an episode in which Music/SineadOConnor was scheduled to perform, and she pulled out of the episode due to the choice of host, given that she herself would spark controversy on the show later on. She performed on the next season's premiere (which is, by the way, NOT the infamous performance stated above).
** The cold open for the first episode after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, which featured Kate [=McKinnon=] as Hillary Clinton sitting at a piano and performing Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" (Cohen died earlier that week), received a very polarized response:

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** The AndrewDiceClay episode, which got a ton of controversy from them even picking Dice Clay to host it (hell, it even was one of the deciding factors for Nora Dunn to not seek contract renewal, as she was the most disgusted by the personality Clay is known to have). It was a polarizing choice for both the cast and fans for the penultimate episode of the 15th season.
*** Ironic
season. This is ironic because a good bit of fans seemed to have mixed feelings about Dunn, and there have been stories about how she was viewed by the cast (not to mention that she is somewhat still vocal about her time on SNL to this day, and some bad feelings still linger).
*** Also HilariousInHindsight is that this was also an episode in which Music/SineadOConnor was scheduled to perform, and she pulled out of the episode due to the choice of host, given that she herself would spark controversy on the show later on. She performed on the next season's premiere (which is, by the way, NOT the infamous performance stated above).
** The cold open for the first episode after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, which featured Kate [=McKinnon=] as Hillary Clinton sitting at a piano and performing Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" (Cohen died earlier that week), received a very polarized response:two polar responses:



* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny:
** [[DefiedTrope Defied]]. Improvising is a good way to find yourself banned from the show by Creator/LorneMichaels if you're a guest (unless something really goes wrong and you have to do something to keep the dead air at bay). Just ask Creator/AdrienBrody (who introduced musical guest Sean Paul while dressed as a rudeboy and rambling in a Jamaican accent when he hosted during the penultimate episode of season 28[[note]]2002-2003[[/note]]).
** Damon Wayans had a rather dull part as a prison guard in a "Mr. Monopoly" sketch (based on the game). He decided to ad-lib and play the character as a gay stereotype (who sounded like his Blaine Edwards character from the "Men on Film" sketches). He was immediately fired by Lorne Michaels, which is why he was available when ''Series/InLivingColor'' premiered.
* HarsherInHindsight: While very much HilariousInHindsight for the President-elect Trump's supporters, pretty much every pre-Election Day 2016 skit is this for Hillary Clinton's supporters, since most of [=SNL=]'s skits predicted her victory. This one from '''''1994''''' which Parodied ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'', which had Newt Gingrich's guardian angel informing him that Hilary (whom he had a long-standing dislike for) was president.



* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny: [[DefiedTrope Defied]]. Improvising is a good way to find yourself banned from the show by Creator/LorneMichaels if you're a guest (unless something really goes wrong and you have to do something to keep the dead air at bay). Just ask Creator/AdrienBrody (who introduced musical guest Sean Paul while dressed as a rudeboy and rambling in a Jamaican accent when he hosted during the penultimate episode of season 28[[note]]2002-2003[[/note]]).
** Damon Wayans had a rather dull part as a prison guard in a "Mr. Monopoly" sketch (based on the game). He decided to ad-lib and play the character as a gay stereotype (who sounded like his Blaine Edwards character from the "Men on Film" sketches). He was immediately fired by Lorne Michaels, which is why he was available when ''Series/InLivingColor'' premiered.
* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Pretty much every pre-Election Day skit, most of which pointed at a Hilary Clinton victory, given the results of Election Day 2016, is the former if you're a Clinton supporter or the latter if you rooted for Trump.
** Including one from '''''1994''''' which Parodied ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'', which had Newt Gingrich's guardian angel informing him that Hilary (whom he had a long-standing dislike for) was president.



* OvershadowedByControversy: The Tim Robbins episode from season 18 is remember almost exclusively for being the notorious episode in which Music/SineadOConnor ripped UsefulNotes/PopeJohnPaulII's photo and screamed, "Fight the real enemy!"



* TheScrappy: Colin Jost, one of the current Weekend Update anchors. Unlike the other cast members, he only appears in Weekend Update and has drawn numerous criticism for being wooden and unfunny. When it was announced that the show was changing Weekend Update for the 40th season, people were thrilled...until it was revealed that they were removing EnsembleDarkhorse Cecily Strong from the desk and keeping Jost.
** Though the replacement, Michael Che, might've not been too bad for Jost, since the back and forth banter between the two during the skit has some people now saying that Jost could have been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. Since the banter seems to be ad libbed, as well, some have also said that the two could be better without a script (something Lorne is known for not being a complete fan of letting people do), and that he could work better as an improv comic who might be held down by a script.
* SeasonalRot: Just like in the NostalgiaFilter entry, there are former fans who believe the show hasn't been the same since whenever the last time they saw it usually, it's Seasons 1-5 (Fall 1975 to Spring 1980), but there have been other claims of when ''SNL'' started to seasonally rot, like when a fan favorite cast member (such as Creator/DanAykroyd, Creator/JohnBelushi, Creator/EddieMurphy, Creator/WillFerrell, Creator/TinaFey, etc.) leaves. The transitional periods between old casts and new ones are usually low periods, with Season 6 (1980-81), the first without any original cast members, widely considered the most disastrous in the show's history. Season 20 (1994-95) is also infamous due to the departure of Phil Hartman, reports of backstage tension between cast members, and the weak ideas for sketches (most of them were about the O.J. Simpson murder trial).
** Season 11 (when Lorne Michaels came back and tried to assemble a cast of semi-famous people to be cast members, only to almost get canned due to plummeting Nielsen ratings) from 1985-86 also counts. According to the book "Live From New York: The Uncensored History of ''Saturday Night Live''", a lot of the staff (including AlFranken and then-future ''TheSimpsons'' writer George Meyer) view Season 11 as terrible because the first episode hosted by {{Music/Madonna}} wasn't well-received, which led to plummeting ratings and reviews stating that ''SNL''[='s=] new cast at the time wasn't funny, the writing was too weird and thin, and the show as a whole has run its course and needed to end.
*** Though Season 11 did have a few carryover cast that survived to season 12 (NoraDunn, JonLovitz, and DennisMiller. A Whitney Brown continued to be a "featured" cast member up to season 13, as well).

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* TheScrappy: Colin Jost, one of the current Weekend Update anchors. Unlike the other cast members, he only appears in Weekend Update and has drawn numerous criticism for being wooden and unfunny. When it was announced that the show was changing Weekend Update for the 40th season, people were thrilled... until it was revealed that they were removing EnsembleDarkhorse Cecily Strong from the desk and keeping Jost.
** Though the replacement,
Jost. His banter with Michael Che, might've not Che has been too bad for Jost, since the back and forth banter between the two during the skit has some people now saying that Jost could have been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. Since the banter seems to be ad libbed, as well, some have also said that the two could be better without a script (something Lorne is known for not being a complete fan of letting people do), and that he could work better as an improv comic who might be held down by a script.
well-received, however.
* SeasonalRot: SeasonalRot:
**
Just like in the NostalgiaFilter entry, there are former fans who believe the show hasn't been the same since whenever the last time they saw it usually, it's Seasons 1-5 (Fall 1975 to Spring 1980), but there have been other claims of when ''SNL'' started to seasonally rot, like when a fan favorite cast member (such as Creator/DanAykroyd, Creator/JohnBelushi, Creator/EddieMurphy, Creator/WillFerrell, Creator/TinaFey, etc.) leaves. The transitional periods between old casts and new ones are usually low periods, with Season 6 (1980-81), the first without any original cast members, widely considered the most disastrous in the show's history. Season 20 (1994-95) is also infamous due to the departure of Phil Hartman, reports of backstage tension between cast members, and the weak ideas for sketches (most of them were about the O.J. Simpson murder trial).
** Season 11 (when from 1985-86 also counts, since this was when Lorne Michaels came back and tried to assemble a cast of semi-famous people to be cast members, only to almost get canned due to plummeting Nielsen ratings) from 1985-86 also counts. According to the book "Live From New York: The Uncensored History of ''Saturday Night Live''", a lot of the staff (including AlFranken and then-future ''TheSimpsons'' writer George Meyer) view Season 11 as terrible because the first episode hosted by {{Music/Madonna}} wasn't well-received, which led to plummeting ratings and reviews stating that ''SNL''[='s=] new cast at the time wasn't funny, the writing was too weird and thin, and the show as a whole has run its course and needed to end.
*** Though
members[[note]]Though Season 11 did have a few carryover cast that survived to season 12 (NoraDunn, JonLovitz, and DennisMiller. A Whitney Brown continued to be a "featured" cast member up to season 13, as well).[[/note]], only to almost get canned due to plummeting Nielsen ratings. According to the book "Live From New York: The Uncensored History of ''Saturday Night Live''", a lot of the staff (including AlFranken and then-future ''TheSimpsons'' writer George Meyer) view Season 11 as terrible because the first episode hosted by {{Music/Madonna}} wasn't well-received, which led to plummeting ratings and reviews stating that ''SNL''[='s=] new cast at the time wasn't funny, the writing was too weird and thin, and the show as a whole has run its course and needed to end.
10th Dec '16 8:07:15 PM DrOO7
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** Including one from '''''1994''''' which Parodied ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'', which had Newt Gingrich's guardian angel informing him that Hilary (whom he had a long-standing dislike for) was president.
27th Nov '16 3:54:18 PM kquinn0830
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*** Others felt that the show giving the election of Trump the same treatment as 9/11, the Sandy Hook shooting, and the 2015 terror attacks in Paris (the only other three events that warranted a non-comedic cold open) was an overreaction, ignored the half of the American population that support Trump, tastelessly used Cohen's death to address a political message, and showed blatant political bias from a show that prides itself on being politically neutral.

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*** Others felt that the show giving the election of Trump the same treatment as 9/11, the Sandy Hook shooting, and the 2015 terror attacks in Paris (the only other three events that warranted a non-comedic cold open) was an overreaction, ignored (and was insulting to) the half of the American population that support supports Trump, tastelessly used Cohen's death to address a political message, and showed blatant political bias from a show that prides itself on being politically neutral.
26th Nov '16 8:34:53 PM DrOO7
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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Pretty much every skit that had Hillary Clinton crowing about her presumed soon-to-be victory over Donald Trump, given the results of Election Day 2016, is the former if you're a Clinton supporter or the latter if you rooted for Trump.

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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Pretty much every skit that had Hillary pre-Election Day skit, most of which pointed at a Hilary Clinton crowing about her presumed soon-to-be victory over Donald Trump, victory, given the results of Election Day 2016, is the former if you're a Clinton supporter or the latter if you rooted for Trump.
26th Nov '16 6:55:56 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: At this point, is Darrell Hammond's Creator/SeanConnery on Celebrity {{Series/Jeopardy}} for any reason ''other'' than [[RefugeInAudacity repeatedly and proudly]] making YourMom jokes to Creator/WillFerrell's Alex Trebek?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: At this point, is Darrell Hammond's Creator/SeanConnery on Celebrity {{Series/Jeopardy}} for any reason ''other'' than [[RefugeInAudacity repeatedly and proudly]] making YourMom jokes to Creator/WillFerrell's Alex Trebek?
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