History YMMV / SNKVsCapcom

2nd Mar '11 3:13:08 PM AMNK
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See also:
* CapcomVsWhatever's CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[CrowningMusic/CapcomVsWhatever page]].
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* GameBreaker: Nakoruru in ''[=CvS=]'', she's only the second character from a Capcom developed fighting game to be banned outright in tournaments.
* ScrappyMechanic: The Ratio system of ''[=CvS=]'', hated by a lot of people. Its' sequel was more or less balanced in both grooves and ratios.
2nd Mar '11 2:52:52 PM AMNK
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* GameBreaker: Nakoruru in [=CVS1=], she's only the second character from a Capcom developed fighting game to be banned outright in tournaments.
* GoodBadBugs: Roll cancelling in ''CvS2'', where a bug allowed you to cancel a roll into a move while maintaining the formers invulnerability. Taken out in the GameCube and XBox versions, which was one of the reasons those weren't received as well as the PS2 and DreamCast ones.
* LargeHam: The ''Capcom vs SNK 2'' announcer.
--> ''"THIS BATTLE, [[MotorMouth ISABOUTTOEXPLODE]]... FIGHT!"''
* ScrappyMechanic: The Ratio system of the first ''Capcom vs. SNK'', hated by a lot of people.
** Save for its' sequel which was more on less balanced in both grooves and ratios.
* TierInducedScrappy: Watching high-level ''Capcom Vs SNK 2'' matches with most matches consisting of Sakura/Bison/Blanka can get annoying to some people after a while.

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* GameBreaker: Nakoruru in [=CVS1=], ''[=CvS=]'', she's only the second character from a Capcom developed fighting game to be banned outright in tournaments.
* GoodBadBugs: Roll cancelling in ''CvS2'', where a bug allowed you to cancel a roll into a move while maintaining the formers invulnerability. Taken out in the GameCube and XBox versions, which was one of the reasons those weren't received as well as the PS2 and DreamCast ones.
* LargeHam: The ''Capcom vs SNK 2'' announcer.
--> ''"THIS BATTLE, [[MotorMouth ISABOUTTOEXPLODE]]... FIGHT!"''
*
ScrappyMechanic: The Ratio system of the first ''Capcom vs. SNK'', ''[=CvS=]'', hated by a lot of people.
** Save for its'
people. Its' sequel which was more on or less balanced in both grooves and ratios.
* TierInducedScrappy: Watching high-level ''Capcom Vs SNK 2'' matches with most matches consisting of Sakura/Bison/Blanka can get annoying to some people after a while.
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2nd Feb '11 3:55:31 AM AMNK
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* GameBreaker: Nakoruru in [=CVS1=], she's only the second character from a Capcom developed fighting game to be banned outright in tournaments.
* GoodBadBugs: Roll cancelling in ''CvS2'', where a bug allowed you to cancel a roll into a move while maintaining the formers invulnerability. Taken out in the GameCube and XBox versions, which was one of the reasons those weren't received as well as the PS2 and DreamCast ones.
1st Feb '11 11:53:35 PM d3v
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* GameBreaker: Nakoruru in ''Capcom vs. SNK''. The way that games ratio system worked to buff supposedly weaker characters turned her into a beast on the same level as Akuma in [[StreetFighter Super Turbo]] and therefore banned in most tournaments.
30th Dec '10 11:44:59 AM AMNK
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* CharacterDerailment: In ''[=SvC=] Chaos'', Ryu's personality is totally deformed to the point where he no longer resembles the stoic, serious Ryu we all know and love. In that game, he is a cocky wisecracker who frequently jabs at his opponent and makes crude jokes. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It's good for a few laughs here and there]], but it's still jarring to see how much {{SNK}} [[DidNotDoTheResearch dropped the ball]] with Ryu.
** Also, seems like same thing or a variation of it can be applied to Ryo Sakazaki. No, not to his personality, '''but'''... [=The reason is that in the little-known first game in series, ''SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium'', Ryo '''distinguished'' Dan Hibiki from Robert Garcia, and once even proposed him to become a trainer in his dojo.=] In ''Chaos'', however, something let the 'scriptwriters' [[DidNotDoTheResearch not look at their own company's previous work throughoutly]] and, therefore, make Ryo confuse Dan as Robert, thanks to his head. Illogical, can you say more.
* DoingItForTheArt: [=''SvC Chaos''=] may go against this trope. The reasons may be because of the newly-revived [=SNK Playmore=], who wanted to finish their contract with Capcom. Proofs: postapocalyptic decorations, [[UpToEleven completely cliffhangerish]] [[PlotHole plot]] (with complete lack of prologue unlike the prequels), HitboxDissonance and [[SNKBoss a huge load of unbeatable boss characters]], [[GameBreaker and non-boss characters too]].
** [[spoiler:Things that are absolutely not necessary for the list yet also may be included (so they're spoilered). [[ScrappyMechanic desperation-move-spamming Maximum system, energy-eating grabs and dashes]], Eolitish music, as well as Eolitish physics. BlindIdiotTranslation also goes here, thanks a lot, '''irregulars'''.]]
* FirstInstallmentWins: In SVC, ten out of twelve non-boss Capcom characters are from ''StreetFighterII'', alignment and all.[[hottip:*:That is, Sagat's still a bad guy.]] This is especially noticeable when compared to the SNK side, which is instead filled to the brim with {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
** Also may be applied to the other games of the series, as ''[=CvS2=]'' shows, which is third installment in that case.



* {{Squick}}: Demitri's Midnight Bliss move [[UnfortunateImplications turns]] [[StreetFighterIII Hugo]] [[GenderBender into...]] '''''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6F5WWgGkKc#t=1m40s Poison]]''''' in ''SVC Chaos''. [[LazyArtist After Demitri grabs him (or her, in that case), of course.]] However, it may be Roxy.[[hottip:*:For those of you unfamiliar with the background of FinalFight, the point of the unnerving is that Poison's a male->female transsexual, while Roxy has always been female.]]
* TierInducedScrappy: Watching high-level ''Capcom Vs SNK 2'' matches with most matches consisting of Sakura/Bison/Blanka can get annoying to some people after a while.
** But, on the other hand, it's ''even more annoying'' to play against [[SNKBoss cheap craplings]] in [=''SvC Chaos''=], all thanks to Playmore's attitude to this project.

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* {{Squick}}: Demitri's Midnight Bliss move [[UnfortunateImplications turns]] [[StreetFighterIII Hugo]] [[GenderBender into...]] '''''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6F5WWgGkKc#t=1m40s Poison]]''''' in ''SVC Chaos''. [[LazyArtist After Demitri grabs him (or her, in that case), of course.]] However, it may be Roxy.[[hottip:*:For those of you unfamiliar with the background of FinalFight, the point of the unnerving is that Poison's a male->female transsexual, while Roxy has always been female.]]
* TierInducedScrappy: Watching high-level ''Capcom Vs SNK 2'' matches with most matches consisting of Sakura/Bison/Blanka can get annoying to some people after a while.
** But, on the other hand, it's ''even more annoying'' to play against [[SNKBoss cheap craplings]] in [=''SvC Chaos''=], all thanks to Playmore's attitude to this project.
while.
29th Dec '10 11:24:31 PM UnstoppableAvengers
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** [[spoiler:Things that are absolutely not necessary for the list yet also may be included (so they're spoilered). [[ScrappyMechanics Maximum system, energy-eating grabs and dashes]], Eolitish music, as well as Eolitish physics. BlindIdiotTranslation also goes here, thanks a lot, '''irregulars'''.]]

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** [[spoiler:Things that are absolutely not necessary for the list yet also may be included (so they're spoilered). [[ScrappyMechanics [[ScrappyMechanic desperation-move-spamming Maximum system, energy-eating grabs and dashes]], Eolitish music, as well as Eolitish physics. BlindIdiotTranslation also goes here, thanks a lot, '''irregulars'''.]]
29th Dec '10 11:23:42 PM UnstoppableAvengers
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** [[spoiler:Things that are absolutely not necessary for the list yet also may be included (so they're spoilered). [[ScrappyMechanics Maximum system, energy-eating grabs and dashes]], Eolitish music, as well as Eolitish physics. BlindIdiotTranslation also goes here, thanks a lot, '''irregulars'''.]]



** Also may be applied to the series, as ''[=CvS 2=]'' shows.

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** Also may be applied to the other games of the series, as ''[=CvS 2=]'' shows.''[=CvS2=]'' shows, which is third installment in that case.



* {{Squick}}: Demitri's Midnight Bliss move [[UnfortunateImplications turns]] [[StreetFighterIII Hugo]] [[GenderBender into...]] '''''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6F5WWgGkKc#t=1m40s Poison]]''''' in ''SVC Chaos''. However, it may be Roxy.[[hottip:*:For those of you unfamiliar with the background of FinalFight, the point of the unnerving is that Poison's a male->female transsexual, while Roxy has always been female.]]

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** Save for its' sequel which was more on less balanced in both grooves and ratios.
* {{Squick}}: Demitri's Midnight Bliss move [[UnfortunateImplications turns]] [[StreetFighterIII Hugo]] [[GenderBender into...]] '''''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6F5WWgGkKc#t=1m40s Poison]]''''' in ''SVC Chaos''. [[LazyArtist After Demitri grabs him (or her, in that case), of course.]] However, it may be Roxy.[[hottip:*:For those of you unfamiliar with the background of FinalFight, the point of the unnerving is that Poison's a male->female transsexual, while Roxy has always been female.]]



** But, on the other hand, it's ''even more annoying'' to play against [[SNKBoss cheap craplings]] in ''SvC Chaos'', all thanks to Playmore's attitude to this project.

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** But, on the other hand, it's ''even more annoying'' to play against [[SNKBoss cheap craplings]] in ''SvC Chaos'', [=''SvC Chaos''=], all thanks to Playmore's attitude to this project.
29th Dec '10 11:11:18 PM UnstoppableAvengers
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** [[spoiler:The original editor thanks the one who edited the example so now it sounds less rude.]]
29th Dec '10 11:10:06 PM UnstoppableAvengers
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** Also, seems like same thing or a variation of it can be applied to Ryo Sakazaki. No, not to his personality, '''but'''... [=The reason is that in the little-known first game in series, ''SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium'', Ryo '''distinguished'' Dan Hibiki from Robert Garcia, and once even proposed him to become a trainer in his dojo. In ''Chaos'', however, something let the 'scriptwriters' [[DidNotDoTheResearch not look at their own company's previous work throughoutly]] and, therefore, make Ryo confuse Dan as Robert, thanks to his head. Illogical, can you say more.
* DoingItForTheArt: [=''SvC Chaos''=] may go against this trope. The reasons may be because of the newly-revived [=SNK Playmore=], who wanted to finish their contract with Capcom. Proofs: postapocalyptic decorations, [UpToEleven completely cliffhangerish]] [[PlotHole plot]] (with complete lack of prologue unlike the prequels), HitboxDissonance and [[SNKBoss a huge load of unbeatable boss characters]], [[GameBreaker and non-boss characters too]].
** [[Spoiler:The original editor thanks the one who edited the example so now it sounds less rude.]]

to:

** Also, seems like same thing or a variation of it can be applied to Ryo Sakazaki. No, not to his personality, '''but'''... [=The reason is that in the little-known first game in series, ''SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium'', Ryo '''distinguished'' Dan Hibiki from Robert Garcia, and once even proposed him to become a trainer in his dojo. =] In ''Chaos'', however, something let the 'scriptwriters' [[DidNotDoTheResearch not look at their own company's previous work throughoutly]] and, therefore, make Ryo confuse Dan as Robert, thanks to his head. Illogical, can you say more.
* DoingItForTheArt: [=''SvC Chaos''=] may go against this trope. The reasons may be because of the newly-revived [=SNK Playmore=], who wanted to finish their contract with Capcom. Proofs: postapocalyptic decorations, [UpToEleven [[UpToEleven completely cliffhangerish]] [[PlotHole plot]] (with complete lack of prologue unlike the prequels), HitboxDissonance and [[SNKBoss a huge load of unbeatable boss characters]], [[GameBreaker and non-boss characters too]].
** [[Spoiler:The [[spoiler:The original editor thanks the one who edited the example so now it sounds less rude.]]
29th Dec '10 11:07:14 PM UnstoppableAvengers
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* CharacterDerailment: In ''[=SvC=]: Chaos'', Ryu's personality is totally deformed to the point where he no longer resembles the stoic, serious Ryu we all know and love. In that game, he is a cocky wisecracker who frequently jabs at his opponent and makes crude jokes. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It's good for a few laughs here and there]], but it's still jarring to see how much {{SNK}} [[DidNotDoTheResearch dropped the ball]] with Ryu.
* DoingItForTheArt: ''SvC Chaos'' may go against this trope. The reasons may be because of the newly-revived SNK-Playmore, who wanted to finish their contract with Capcom. It shows: postapocalyptic decorations, completely cliffhangerish plot, (with complete lack of prologue unlike the prequels) HitboxDissonance and [[SNKBoss a huge load of unbeatable boss characters]], [[GameBreaker and non-boss characters too]].

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* CharacterDerailment: In ''[=SvC=]: ''[=SvC=] Chaos'', Ryu's personality is totally deformed to the point where he no longer resembles the stoic, serious Ryu we all know and love. In that game, he is a cocky wisecracker who frequently jabs at his opponent and makes crude jokes. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It's good for a few laughs here and there]], but it's still jarring to see how much {{SNK}} [[DidNotDoTheResearch dropped the ball]] with Ryu.
** Also, seems like same thing or a variation of it can be applied to Ryo Sakazaki. No, not to his personality, '''but'''... [=The reason is that in the little-known first game in series, ''SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium'', Ryo '''distinguished'' Dan Hibiki from Robert Garcia, and once even proposed him to become a trainer in his dojo. In ''Chaos'', however, something let the 'scriptwriters' [[DidNotDoTheResearch not look at their own company's previous work throughoutly]] and, therefore, make Ryo confuse Dan as Robert, thanks to his head. Illogical, can you say more.
* DoingItForTheArt: ''SvC Chaos'' [=''SvC Chaos''=] may go against this trope. The reasons may be because of the newly-revived SNK-Playmore, [=SNK Playmore=], who wanted to finish their contract with Capcom. It shows: Proofs: postapocalyptic decorations, [UpToEleven completely cliffhangerish plot, cliffhangerish]] [[PlotHole plot]] (with complete lack of prologue unlike the prequels) prequels), HitboxDissonance and [[SNKBoss a huge load of unbeatable boss characters]], [[GameBreaker and non-boss characters too]].too]].
** [[Spoiler:The original editor thanks the one who edited the example so now it sounds less rude.]]
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