History YMMV / Runescape

24th Jun '16 8:34:34 AM thenameisbean
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** "Kindred Spirits" ''finally'' lets you get in a few shots, [[TakeThat verbal and physical]], against [[BigBad Sliske]], who until that point was a basically untouchable InvincibleVillain. That said, it's all just a HopeSpot, since he still comes off as a KarmaHoudini as he [[spoiler:delivers a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to the PlayerCharacter and gathers yet another Barrows wight in Linza's case]], so as to provide a SequelHook for the rest of his "Endgame" to [[SpotlightStealingSquad dominate the rest of 2016's storylines]].

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** "Kindred Spirits" ''finally'' lets you get in a few shots, [[TakeThat verbal and physical]], against [[BigBad Sliske]], who until Sliske]]. Early on, you're given the option to repeatedly punch him in the face while he's defenseless, and later, [[spoiler:you manage to weaken his control over the Barrows brothers and learn something about his true plans, which ''really'' gets under his skin. While he still partially succeeds in the end, it shows that point was a basically he's not as untouchable InvincibleVillain. That said, it's all just a HopeSpot, since he still comes off as a KarmaHoudini as he [[spoiler:delivers a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown he'd like to the PlayerCharacter and gathers yet another Barrows wight in Linza's case]], so as to provide a SequelHook for the rest of his "Endgame" to [[SpotlightStealingSquad dominate the rest of 2016's storylines]].think]].
24th Jun '16 8:25:42 AM SCPIhpkmn
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** Also not helping is the feeling that the lore of the game has generally JumpedTheShark after "The World Wakes" was released. While the quest itself has been praised as a WhamEpisode and a BestLevelEver, the fallout of [[spoiler:Guthix's death]] has resulted in questionable storytelling choices ever since, such as the deaths of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s like [[spoiler:Zanik in "The Mighty Fall"]], the sidelining and [[DwindlingParty gradual killing-off]] of the Signature Heroes, the [[WolverinePublicity ubiquitous prominence]] of [[CreatorsPet Sliske the Mahjarrat]] and [[BeliefMakesYouStupid the Godless faction]], and the constant focus on the growing CosmicHorrorStory of the Elder Gods at the expense of [[AntiClimax rushed and unsatisfying ends]] to several long-standing series like the Elf and Myreque quests (and outright DevelopmentHell for anything not revolving around the Elder Gods and/or Sliske).

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** Also not helping is the feeling that the lore of the game has generally JumpedTheShark after "The World Wakes" was released. While the quest itself has been praised as a WhamEpisode and a BestLevelEver, the fallout of [[spoiler:Guthix's death]] has resulted in questionable storytelling choices ever since, such as the deaths of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s like [[spoiler:Zanik in "The Mighty Fall"]], the sidelining and [[DwindlingParty gradual killing-off]] of the Signature Heroes, the [[WolverinePublicity ubiquitous prominence]] of [[CreatorsPet Sliske the Mahjarrat]] and [[BeliefMakesYouStupid the Godless Godless]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad faction]], and the constant focus on the growing CosmicHorrorStory of the Elder Gods at the expense of [[AntiClimax rushed and unsatisfying ends]] to several long-standing series like the Elf and Myreque quests (and outright DevelopmentHell for anything not revolving around the Elder Gods and/or Sliske).
22nd Jun '16 8:28:53 PM HamburgerTime
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** The Black Knight Titan, an otherwise forgettable enemy in an easy mid-level quest, became something of a running joke due to his simplistic, low-polygon model that the developers never bothered updating.

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** The Black Knight Titan, an otherwise forgettable enemy in an easy mid-level quest, became something of a running joke due to his simplistic, low-polygon model that the developers never bothered updating. [[spoiler: He's the [[UnexpectedCharacter surprise villain]] of the 15 year MilestoneCelebration quest, where he's angry about having never been updated]].
22nd Jun '16 5:58:22 PM thenameisbean
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** The Black Knight Titan, an otherwise forgettable enemy in an easy mid-level quest, became something of a running joke due to his simplistic, low-polygon model that the developers never bothered updating.
21st Jun '16 5:45:44 PM HamburgerTime
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** Nobody really ''hates'' Dungeoneering, but there have been disputes over whether it works as a full skill or if it should've been a minigame instead.
19th Jun '16 9:17:32 AM TheFellMind
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** Stuns. During the early days of [=RuneScape=], they were actually a mildly annoying mechanic to deal with, as they simply prevented you from moving or attacking. Once the Evolution of Combat came around, hwoever, they became ''much'' worse and are one of the main sources of complaints about the combat system, particularly in regards to PvP. Now in addition to stopping you from moving or attacking, they prevent you from eating, teleporting, changing prayers, and even ''changing your gear'', all while your chatbox gets spammed with [[CaptainObvious "You can't (walk/eat/teleport/change prayers/do that/whatever) while stunned."]]. The worst part about this is, NPCs that already could stun you were retrofitted with the new stun mechanics. Fortunately, Jagex has shown some mercy on this mechanic by including ways that you can render yourself temporarily immune to or even release yourself from stuns, but those abilities have long cooldowns and you'll find yourself stunned with no way out more often than not against certain foes.

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** Stuns. During the early days of [=RuneScape=], they were actually a mildly annoying mechanic to deal with, as they simply prevented you from moving or attacking. Once the Evolution of Combat came around, hwoever, they became ''much'' worse and are one of the main sources of complaints about the combat system, particularly in regards to PvP.[[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]]. Now in addition to stopping you from moving or attacking, they prevent you from eating, teleporting, changing prayers, and even ''changing your gear'', all while your chatbox gets spammed with [[CaptainObvious "You can't (walk/eat/teleport/change prayers/do that/whatever) while stunned."]]. The worst part about this is, NPCs [=NPCs=] that already could stun you were retrofitted with the new stun mechanics. Fortunately, Jagex has shown some mercy on this mechanic by including ways that you can render yourself temporarily immune to or even release yourself from stuns, but those abilities have long cooldowns and you'll find yourself stunned with no way out more often than not against certain foes.



* SeasonalRot: A big part of the [[UnpleasableFanbase fanbase]] claims that [=RuneScape=] has been [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks getting worse since 2007]] -- the majority of the gripes on here are from at least 2008 or later[[note]]although as of 2016, [=RuneScape=] is fifteen years old, 2008 is over half of the game's existence ago, and very few players have stuck with the game consistently that entire time[[/note]]. Since that point, Runescape's number of subscribers has been steadily decreasing, and it doesn't help that the newer quests and content are riddled with [[ThatOneBoss unfair bosses]], [[GuideDangIt unintuitive]] [[ThatOnePuzzle puzzles]], bugs, and {{Aborted Arc}}s a plenty. Also not helping is the feeling that the lore of the game, by and large, JumpedTheShark after The World Wakes was released- while the quest itself has been praised as a BestLevelEver, the fallout of [[spoiler: Guthix's death]] has resulted in, shall we say, questionable storytelling choices, such as the deaths of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s like [[spoiler: Zanik]], the prominence of [[CreatorsPet Sliske the Mahjarrat]] and [[BeliefMakesYouStupid The Godless Faction]], and several {{Anti Climax}}es such as the rushed end of the Elf Quest series. On top of all of this, "rewards" for microtransactions are being rolled out monthly and even weekly, with a clear intent to [[MoneyDearBoy bleed out the player's wallets]] so they can [[PayToWin get an unfair advantage]].

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* SeasonalRot: A big part of the [[UnpleasableFanbase fanbase]] claims that [=RuneScape=] has been [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks getting worse since 2007]] -- the majority of the gripes on here are from at least 2008 or later[[note]]although as of 2016, [=RuneScape=] is fifteen years old, 2008 is over half of the game's existence ago, and very few players have stuck with the game consistently that entire time[[/note]]. Since that point, Runescape's [=RuneScape=]'s number of subscribers has been slowly but steadily decreasing, and it doesn't help that the newer quests and content are riddled with [[ThatOneBoss unfair bosses]], [[GuideDangIt highly unintuitive]] [[ThatOnePuzzle puzzles]], bugs, [[TheyJustDidntCare bugs]] and {{Aborted Arc}}s a plenty. aplenty.
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Also not helping is the feeling that the lore of the game, by and large, game has generally JumpedTheShark after The "The World Wakes Wakes" was released- while released. While the quest itself has been praised as a WhamEpisode and a BestLevelEver, the fallout of [[spoiler: Guthix's [[spoiler:Guthix's death]] has resulted in, shall we say, in questionable storytelling choices, choices ever since, such as the deaths of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s like [[spoiler: Zanik]], [[spoiler:Zanik in "The Mighty Fall"]], the prominence sidelining and [[DwindlingParty gradual killing-off]] of the Signature Heroes, the [[WolverinePublicity ubiquitous prominence]] of [[CreatorsPet Sliske the Mahjarrat]] and [[BeliefMakesYouStupid The the Godless Faction]], faction]], and the constant focus on the growing CosmicHorrorStory of the Elder Gods at the expense of [[AntiClimax rushed and unsatisfying ends]] to several {{Anti Climax}}es such as the rushed end of long-standing series like the Elf Quest series. and Myreque quests (and outright DevelopmentHell for anything not revolving around the Elder Gods and/or Sliske).
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On top of all of this, "rewards" for microtransactions {{microtransactions}} are being rolled out monthly and even weekly, with a clear intent to [[MoneyDearBoy bleed out the player's players' wallets]] so they can [[PayToWin get an unfair advantage]].advantage]] -- or just to prey on players who feel like they've GottaCatchEmAll.
17th Jun '16 11:46:00 AM thenameisbean
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** The eighth Barrows wight, [[spoiler:Linza]] the Disgraced. It's similar to the other Barrows wights, but for whatever reason, it has over ''twelve times'' as much HP as they do, at ''150,000'' HP. Furthermore, the wight's special power can randomly reflect damage done back onto you, making it a hellish fight of attrition.

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** The eighth Barrows wight, [[spoiler:Linza]] the Disgraced. It's similar to the other Barrows wights, but for whatever reason, it has over ''twelve times'' as much HP as they do, at ''150,000'' HP. Furthermore, the wight's special power can randomly reflect damage done back onto you, making it a hellish fight of attrition. Even worse, for whatever reason, Barrows amulets don't work on it.
16th Jun '16 8:35:51 PM thenameisbean
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** The eighth Barrows wight, [[spoiler:Linza]] the Disgraced. It's similar to the other Barrows wights, but for whatever reason, it has over ''twelve times'' as much HP as they do, at ''150,000'' HP. Furthermore, the wight's special power can randomly reflect damage done back onto you, making it a hellish fight of attrition.
15th Jun '16 10:02:37 PM thenameisbean
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** Poor, poor Zanik. Thanks to her adventurous and reckless spirit, she was ostracized by the cave goblins from a young age. When the cave goblins make contact with the surface, she repeatedly gets tangled up with the H.A.M. cult and their schemes, and at one point is savagely beaten and left for dead. After she is revived, she finds out that she is TheChosenOne...of ''[[WarGod Bandos]]'', whose plan involves turning her into a mindless puppet-general and taking over the world. Thankfully, she and the player manage to overcome both the H.A.M. cult and Bandos, and Zanik is free to explore the world...until The Mighty Fall. Bandos' followers show up on the cave goblins' doorstep, blaming Zanik for their god's death and threatening to destroy her people. Also, since she was connected to a now-dead god, Zanik is slowly dying as well. At the end of the quest, you can either allow her to go off into the ruins of Yu'biusk to die, or ''execute her yourself''. And we're not done here. In Nomad's Elegy, you meet her in the Bandosian afterlife, where, as apostates of Bandos, she and the other cave goblins exist to be brutally beaten to death, over and over again, ''forever''. Thankfully, at the end of all this, she ''finally'' gets a happy ending: either she's revived and takes over Soul Wars, or she gets to go to her own afterlife, freed from the influence of the gods.
10th Jun '16 11:22:33 AM SCPIhpkmn
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* SeasonalRot: A big part of the [[UnpleasableFanbase fanbase]] claims that [=RuneScape=] has been [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks getting worse since 2007]] -- the majority of the gripes on here are from at least 2008 or later[[note]]although as of 2016, [=RuneScape=] is fifteen years old, 2008 is over half of the game's existence ago, and very few players have stuck with the game consistently that entire time[[/note]]. Since that point, Runescape's number of subscribers has been steadily decreasing, and it doesn't help that the newer quests and content are riddled with [[ThatOneBoss unfair bosses]], [[GuideDangIt unintuitive]] [[ThatOnePuzzle puzzles]], bugs, and a feeling that TheyJustDidntCare. It doesn't help that new "rewards" for microtransactions are being rolled out monthly and even weekly, with a clear intent to [[MoneyDearBoy bleed out the player's wallets]] so they can [[PayToWin get an unfair advantage]].

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* SeasonalRot: A big part of the [[UnpleasableFanbase fanbase]] claims that [=RuneScape=] has been [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks getting worse since 2007]] -- the majority of the gripes on here are from at least 2008 or later[[note]]although as of 2016, [=RuneScape=] is fifteen years old, 2008 is over half of the game's existence ago, and very few players have stuck with the game consistently that entire time[[/note]]. Since that point, Runescape's number of subscribers has been steadily decreasing, and it doesn't help that the newer quests and content are riddled with [[ThatOneBoss unfair bosses]], [[GuideDangIt unintuitive]] [[ThatOnePuzzle puzzles]], bugs, and {{Aborted Arc}}s a plenty. Also not helping is the feeling that TheyJustDidntCare. It doesn't help that new the lore of the game, by and large, JumpedTheShark after The World Wakes was released- while the quest itself has been praised as a BestLevelEver, the fallout of [[spoiler: Guthix's death]] has resulted in, shall we say, questionable storytelling choices, such as the deaths of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s like [[spoiler: Zanik]], the prominence of [[CreatorsPet Sliske the Mahjarrat]] and [[BeliefMakesYouStupid The Godless Faction]], and several {{Anti Climax}}es such as the rushed end of the Elf Quest series. On top of all of this, "rewards" for microtransactions are being rolled out monthly and even weekly, with a clear intent to [[MoneyDearBoy bleed out the player's wallets]] so they can [[PayToWin get an unfair advantage]].
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