History YMMV / RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead

28th Aug '16 9:39:08 PM MorgenReiter
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*** It's a cold, rainy, Northern Europe country ... ''during the Little Ice Age''. There's a reason the "Xdogs night" term was coined.

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*** It's a cold, rainy, Northern Europe European country ... ''during the Little Ice Age''. There's a reason the "Xdogs night" term was coined.
21st Jun '15 12:28:37 AM skymapper
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* JerkassWoobie: Guildenstern

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* JerkassWoobie: Guildenstern
Guildenstern smashes Rosencrantz and breaks down after losing Hamlet to the pirates.
28th Mar '15 12:35:46 PM skymapper
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: This story single-handedly turned Rosencrantz and Guildenstern into this for the original play. Many performances of the play now include the duo as major characters (whereas previously they often used to be cut for being yet another set of minor characters), and they're arguably more popular and well-known than all the other characters other than Hamlet himself.
** As mentioned on the Main page, R&G is occasionally even run back-to-back with ''Hamlet'' by some theatrical companies, who use the same actors for the same characters in each play. And even when they are ''not'' running the plays together, Ros and Guil's appearances in ''Hamlet'' are sometimes staged to include injokes from the Stoppard play -- such as having them enter flipping a coin, or Claudius accidentally calling them by each other's names and being corrected by Gertrude.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: This story single-handedly turned Rosencrantz and Guildenstern into this for the original play. Many performances of the play ''{{Hamlet}}'' now include the duo as major characters (whereas previously they often used to be cut for being yet another set of minor characters), and they're arguably more popular and well-known than all the other characters other than Hamlet himself.
** As mentioned on the Main page, R&G ''{{Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead}}'' is occasionally even run back-to-back with ''Hamlet'' ''{{Hamlet}}'' by some theatrical companies, who use the same actors for the same characters in each play. And even when they are ''not'' running the plays together, Ros and Guil's their appearances in ''Hamlet'' ''{{Hamlet}}'' are sometimes staged to include injokes in-jokes from the Stoppard play -- such as having them enter flipping a coin, or Claudius accidentally calling them by each other's names and being corrected by Gertrude.



** The play actually has ''more'' moments of these that didn't make it into the movie.

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** The play actually has ''more'' moments of these that didn't make it into the movie.film.
*** They talk of home like they're living together:
---->'''ROS''': I want to go home.
---->'''GUIL''': Don't let them confuse you.
---->'''ROS''': I'm out of my step here
---->'''GUIL''': We'll soon be home and high dry and home I'll
---->'''ROS''': It's all over my depth
---->'''GUIL''': I'll hie you home and
---->'''ROS''': out of my head
---->'''GUIL''': dry you high and
28th Mar '15 11:58:32 AM skymapper
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome/[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Funny]]: The question game.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome/[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Funny]]: The question game.game of Questions.



** Also:

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** Also:Also, in the play:



** This exchange that takes place on deck:
--->'''ROS:''' Well, shall we stretch our legs?
--->'''GUIL:''' I don't feel like stretching my legs.
--->'''ROS:''' I'll stretch them for you, if you like.
--->'''GUIL:''' No.
--->'''ROS:''' We could stretch each other's. That way we wouldn't have to go anywhere.
--->'''GUIL''' (''pause''): No, somebody might come in.



** When they're trying to establish the direction of the wind:
--->'''GUIL''': In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.
--->'''ROS''': It's coming up through the floor. (''He studies the floor.'') That can't be south, can it?
--->'''GUIL''': That's not a direction. Lick your toe and wave it around a bit.
--->('''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.'')
--->'''ROS''': No, I think you'd have to lick it for me.
--->''Pause.''
--->'''GUIL''': I'm prepared to let the whole matter drop.
--->'''ROS''': Or I could lick yours, of course.
--->'''GUIL''': No thank you.
--->'''ROS''': I'll even wave it around for you.
--->'''GUIL''' (''down '''ROS's''' throat)'': What in God's name is the matter with you?
--->'''ROS''': Just being friendly.

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** When they're trying to establish the direction of the wind:
--->'''GUIL''': In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.
--->'''ROS''': It's coming up through the floor. (''He studies the floor.'') That can't be south, can it?
--->'''GUIL''': That's not a direction. Lick your toe and wave it around a bit.
--->('''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.'')
--->'''ROS''': No, I think you'd have to lick it for me.
--->''Pause.''
--->'''GUIL''': I'm prepared to let the whole matter drop.
--->'''ROS''': Or I could lick yours, of course.
--->'''GUIL''': No thank you.
--->'''ROS''':
Don't cry... it's all right... there... there, I'll even wave it around for you.
--->'''GUIL''' (''down '''ROS's''' throat)'': What in God's name is the matter with you?
--->'''ROS''': Just being friendly.
see we're all right.


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--->'''ROS''': Rhetoric! Game and match! (''Pause.'') Where's it going to end?
--->'''GUIL''': That's the question.
--->'''ROS''': It's ''all'' questions.
--->'''GUIL''': Do you think it matters?
--->'''ROS''': Doesn't it matter to you?
--->'''GUIL''': Why should it matter?
--->'''ROS''': What does it matter why?
--->'''GUIL''' (''teasing gently''): Doesn't it ''matter'' why it matters?
--->'''ROS''': (''rounding on him''): What's the ''matter'' with you?
--->(''Pause.'')
--->'''GUIL''': It doesn't matter.


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** The play actually has ''more'' moments of these that didn't make it into the movie.
*** When they're trying to establish the direction of the wind:
---->'''GUIL''': In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.
---->'''ROS''': It's coming up through the floor. (''He studies the floor.'') That can't be south, can it?
---->'''GUIL''': That's not a direction. Lick your toe and wave it around a bit.
---->('''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.'')
---->'''ROS''': No, I think you'd have to lick it for me.
---->''Pause.''
---->'''GUIL''': I'm prepared to let the whole matter drop.
---->'''ROS''': Or I could lick yours, of course.
---->'''GUIL''': No thank you.
---->'''ROS''': I'll even wave it around for you.
---->'''GUIL''' (''down '''ROS's''' throat)'': What in God's name is the matter with you?
---->'''ROS''': Just being friendly.
*** This exchange that takes place on the ship bound for England:
---->'''ROS:''' Well, shall we stretch our legs?
---->'''GUIL:''' I don't feel like stretching my legs.
---->'''ROS:''' I'll stretch them for you, if you like.
---->'''GUIL:''' No.
---->'''ROS:''' We could stretch each other's. That way we wouldn't have to go anywhere.
---->'''GUIL''' (''pause''): No, somebody might come in.
28th Mar '15 11:23:04 AM skymapper
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** Rosencrantz and Guildenstern trying to establish the direction of the wind:
GUIL: In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.

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** Rosencrantz and Guildenstern When they're trying to establish the direction of the wind:
GUIL: --->'''GUIL''': In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.



--->'''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.''

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--->'''''ROS''' --->('''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.'''')



** The film especially accentuates this trope, with Ros constantly tugging on Guil's arm, trying to get his attention, agreeing with everything he says, throwing his arms around him, etc.

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** The film especially accentuates this trope, with Ros Rosencrantz constantly tugging on Guil's Guildenstern's arm, trying to get his attention, agreeing with everything he says, throwing draping his arms arm around him, etc.



*** Actually, it's more likely that Rosencrantz became interested after he realised exactly ''what'' the Player was offering them.

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*** Actually, it's more likely Alfred was introduced as "transvestite melodrama" right at the start, so Rosencrantz knows that Alfred's not a woman. Rosencrantz became interested only after he realised exactly ''what'' the Player was offering them.them. The character notes in the play clarifies:
--->'''PLAYER''': Now what precisely is your pleasure? (''He turns to the TRAGEDIANS.'') Gentlemen, disport yourselves. (''The TRAGEDIANS shuffle into some kind of line.'') There! See anything you like?
--->'''ROS''' (''doubtful, innocent''): What do they do?
--->'''PLAYER''': Let your imagination run riot. They are beyond surprise.
***And when he finally gets it:
--->'''ROS''' (''his voice has changed; he has caught on''): Excuse me! You're not ah exclusively players, then?
28th Mar '15 11:02:20 AM skymapper
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-->ROS (humbly): It must be your dominant personality. (Almost in tears.) Oh, what's going to become of us!
-->(And GUIL comforts him, all harshness gone.)
-->GUIL: Don't cry... it's all right... there... there, I'll see we're all right.

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-->ROS (humbly): -->'''ROS''' (''humbly''): It must be your dominant personality. (Almost (''Almost in tears.) '') Oh, what's going to become of us!
-->(And GUIL -->(''And '''GUIL''' comforts him, all harshness gone.)
-->GUIL:
'')
-->'''GUIL''':
Don't cry... it's all right... there... there, I'll see we're all right.right.
**Also:
--->'''''GUIL''' taps a hand, changes his mind, taps the other, and '''ROS''' inadvertently reveals that he has a coin in both fists.''
--->'''GUIL''': You had money in both hands.
--->'''ROS''' (''embarrassed''): Yes.
--->'''GUIL''': Every time?
--->'''ROS''': Yes.
--->'''GUIL''': What's the point of that?
--->'''ROS''' (''pathetic''): I wanted to make you happy.



** There was a messenger. They were sent for. They woke up... together.

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** There was a messenger. They were sent for. They woke up... together.''together''.



** "I don't feel like stretching my legs." "I could stretch them for you, if you like."
** Guil giving Ros a cuddle to cheer him up.

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** "I This exchange that takes place on deck:
--->'''ROS:''' Well, shall we stretch our legs?
--->'''GUIL:''' I
don't feel like stretching my legs." "I could legs.
--->'''ROS:''' I'll
stretch them for you, if you like."
like.
--->'''GUIL:''' No.
--->'''ROS:''' We could stretch each other's. That way we wouldn't have to go anywhere.
--->'''GUIL''' (''pause''): No, somebody might come in.
** Guil Guildenstern giving Ros Rosencrantz a cuddle to cheer him up.up.
** Rosencrantz and Guildenstern trying to establish the direction of the wind:
GUIL: In that case, the origin. Trace it to its source and it might give us a rough idea of the way we came in which might give us a rough idea of south, for further reference.
--->'''ROS''': It's coming up through the floor. (''He studies the floor.'') That can't be south, can it?
--->'''GUIL''': That's not a direction. Lick your toe and wave it around a bit.
--->'''''ROS''' considers the distance of his foot.''
--->'''ROS''': No, I think you'd have to lick it for me.
--->''Pause.''
--->'''GUIL''': I'm prepared to let the whole matter drop.
--->'''ROS''': Or I could lick yours, of course.
--->'''GUIL''': No thank you.
--->'''ROS''': I'll even wave it around for you.
--->'''GUIL''' (''down '''ROS's''' throat)'': What in God's name is the matter with you?
--->'''ROS''': Just being friendly.


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***Actually, it's more likely that Rosencrantz became interested after he realised exactly ''what'' the Player was offering them.
31st Jul '14 7:08:48 PM BibsDibs
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** JerkassWoobie: Guildenstern

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** * JerkassWoobie: Guildenstern
3rd Jul '14 7:42:17 AM Redmess
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** The moment with the pots was utterly hilarious.

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** The moment with the pots (acting as a Newton's Cradle, and then... not) was utterly hilarious.
12th Mar '14 5:54:57 PM knockoutmouse
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* TheWoobie: Rosencrantz

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* TheWoobie: Rosencrantz** Rosencrantz only begins to show interest in the Player's offer of "participation" ''after'' it's been revealed that the entire troupe of Tragedians are male. (Not to mention that his reaction in the bathhouse scene is ambiguous as to whether he's disturbed at having mistaken Alfred for a woman, or whether he knew all along and is simply embarrassed to have been caught looking.)
5th Aug '13 3:16:04 AM JakesBrain
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** As mentioned on the Main page, R&G is occasionally even run back-to-back with ''Hamlet'' by some theatrical companies, who use the same actors for the same characters in each play.

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** As mentioned on the Main page, R&G is occasionally even run back-to-back with ''Hamlet'' by some theatrical companies, who use the same actors for the same characters in each play. And even when they are ''not'' running the plays together, Ros and Guil's appearances in ''Hamlet'' are sometimes staged to include injokes from the Stoppard play -- such as having them enter flipping a coin, or Claudius accidentally calling them by each other's names and being corrected by Gertrude.
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