History YMMV / Rome

24th Aug '15 4:55:52 AM Morgenthaler
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** In-universe, this is also the reaction of Octavia and her friend Jocasta when they walk into the house and find Atia and her men bloodily torturing a servant boy.
24th Aug '15 4:50:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* DawsonCasting: Early in the series, 16-year-old Max Pirkis played then 11-year-old Octavian. By the time his character's age caught up with him in season 2, he looked too young to play an adult Octavian, so they replaced him with 27-year-old Simon Woods starting at an episode where Octavian should be 21.

* WordOfGod [[spoiler: says Vorenus survived his wound in the last episode]].
24th Aug '15 4:46:36 AM Morgenthaler
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** And Atia, albeit much less clever than she thinks she is, loves manipulating anyone she can, from her enemies to her children, without remorse. *** In the second season, Octavian beats them all, shaming both his mother Atia and Marc Antony in one move, before reassigning Marc Antony to Egypt.
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** And Atia, albeit much less clever than she thinks she is, loves manipulating anyone she can, from her enemies to her children, without remorse. *** ** In the second season, Octavian beats them all, manipulating every other faction to, successively, destroy his political enemies in Rome, have Brutus and Cassius killed for conspiring together in the death of his late father Caesar, then shaming both his mother Atia and Marc Antony in one move, move before reassigning Marc Antony to Egypt.Egypt, and finally getting rid of both Antony and Cleopatra to secure Egypt and become Rome's first Princeps to end the civil wars for good.
20th Aug '15 11:55:03 AM adbrown
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* MagnificentBastard: Caesar, Mark Antony, Servilia and Atia, who is an awesomely magnificent ''bitch''. In the second season, Octavian puts every other Magnificent Bastard in the show to shame.
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* MagnificentBastard: Caesar, MagnificentBastard: ** Caesar manages to not just subdue the entire nation of Gaul, but spin that victory into the Senate trying to effectively excommunicate him.. which was ''exactly what he wanted'' as an excuse to march on Rome. Once there, he bribes the priests to say the gods are on his side, establishes a benevolent dictatorship, and forgives most of his enemies, all to undermine their position. ** Mark Antony, Servilia Antony is less politically savvy, but even more audacious. First episode, when given a half talent (50 pounds) of gold for a certain mission, he distributes half to a lower officer and tells him "There's a quarter talent there, for bribes and such," stealing the rest. When in Rome, he pretty much openly threatens anyone who disagrees with him or Caesar. But in polite terms: --> '''Mark Antony''': I ''shall'' be a good politician... even if it kills me. Or if it kills anyone else, for that matter. ** Servilia, after Caesar dumped her, went on revenge rampage--not against him, but mostly against the key woman in his household. She infiltrated Atia's house to try to kill her, tried to turn her children against her, and [[spoiler: committed suicide in front of Atia as part of a death curse.]] ** And Atia, who is an awesomely magnificent ''bitch''. albeit much less clever than she thinks she is, loves manipulating anyone she can, from her enemies to her children, without remorse. *** In the second season, Octavian puts every other Magnificent Bastard beats them all, shaming both his mother Atia and Marc Antony in the show one move, before reassigning Marc Antony to shame.Egypt.
24th Jul '15 6:35:22 PM KingOfGreyfell
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* TearJerker: The undignified treatment of [[spoiler: Vercingetorix, the Gallic chieftain stangled at Caesar's Triumph]]. The man saw his homeland subjugated and his people enslaved, only for his life to end as a spectacle.
6th Jul '15 7:37:11 PM Morgenthaler
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* ActorAllusion: When Mark Antony meets Publicus Servilius (played by Simon Callow) in the episode "Egeria," Servilius asks him, "Forgive me, have we met before?" They have. Simon Callow and James Purefoy were both in the film ''Film/BedroomsAndHallways'' (where, incidentally, we get to see Mark Antony and Lucius Vorenus make out.)

* BeamMeUpScotty: Caesar never said EtTuBrute when dying, and the series correctly leaves out the phrase. In the next episode, Brutus says to his mother, after she agrees with those who think he should kill Antony: "You too, mother?" Ciaran Hinds' [[FacialDialogue facial expression]] and especially his eyes, carry the question "Et tu, Brute?" silently with great effect. ** "I came, I saw, I conquered" and "The die has been cast" were also omitted.

* ExecutiveMeddling ** Writer Bruno Heller learned that HBO cancelled the show when he was halfway into writing the second season. The result: ~15 years of history compressed into 8 episodes, plus a subplot with Timon and his brother that goes absolutely nowhere (since then HBO execs admitted that the cancellation was probably a not a good idea). ** When the series first aired the BBC edited the first three episodes down to just two, without director (and executive producer) Michael Apted's knowledge. The official reason given was that the BBC felt British viewers were [[ViewersAreGeniuses already familiar with Roman history]] and so a lot of the background information was unnecessary. Apted believed the ''real'' reason for the cuts was [[SexSells sex + violence = ratings]] (and given the BBC later screened all four seasons of ''TheTudors'' - a series not acclaimed for its fidelity to British historical truth[[note]](compare to the self-same BBC pulling ''Series/TheRatPatrol'' after six episodes in the '60s)[[/note]] - Apted may have been right).

* TheOtherDarrin: A mix between types 2 and 3 for Octavian, as he is heard talking off-screen to a reaction shot of Pullo before being revealed. Pullo seems to take a minute to recognize him, and then they move on like nothing happened. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as the series covers over 20 years of history, and the original Octavian looked too young to play himself as an adult.
3rd Jul '15 2:54:04 AM TrollBrutal
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* LoveToHate: Atia is a conniving harpy, but she is so casually petulant and whimsical that it's hard to stay mad at her. On top of that, Polly Walker's delivery is so good that her unapologetic villainy is hilarious most of the time.
20th Jun '15 2:22:12 PM Cindylover1969
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** When the series first aired the BBC edited the first three episodes down to just two, without director (and executive producer) Michael Apted's knowledge. The official reason given was that the BBC felt British viewers were [[ViewersAreGeniuses already familiar with Roman history]] and so a lot of the background information was unnecessary. Apted believed the ''real'' reason for the cuts was [[SexSells sex + violence = ratings]] (and given the BBC later screened ''TheTudors'' - a series not acclaimed for its fidelity to British historical truth - Apted may have been right).
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** When the series first aired the BBC edited the first three episodes down to just two, without director (and executive producer) Michael Apted's knowledge. The official reason given was that the BBC felt British viewers were [[ViewersAreGeniuses already familiar with Roman history]] and so a lot of the background information was unnecessary. Apted believed the ''real'' reason for the cuts was [[SexSells sex + violence = ratings]] (and given the BBC later screened all four seasons of ''TheTudors'' - a series not acclaimed for its fidelity to British historical truth truth[[note]](compare to the self-same BBC pulling ''Series/TheRatPatrol'' after six episodes in the '60s)[[/note]] - Apted may have been right).
2nd Jun '15 8:53:37 PM damus2300
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*HilariousInHindsight: Can't Allen Leech go through one TV show stint without [[Series/TheTudors falling in love]] [[Series/DowntonAbbey with a noblewoman]]? It never works out.
26th Feb '15 4:24:00 PM TastySauce
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