History YMMV / RobinSeries

1st Jun '17 3:51:10 PM darkemyst
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* AbandonShipping: After Tim and Cass [[HappilyAdopted became siblings]], though [[BrotherSisterIncest this]] didn't seem to matter to some.



* IronWoobie: Tim arguably has had the hardest life out of all the Robins. Sure Jason Todd died, but after Tim met Batman: his mother was killed (which Batman tried and failed to stop), his father was paralyzed, [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames his girlfriend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath she got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis his father was killed]], [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his best friend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his stepmom was]] [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome presumably]] [[NeverFoundTheBody killed]], [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis and his adoptive father was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]). It's no wonder he can be a little moody at times.

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* IronWoobie: Tim arguably has had the hardest life out of all the Robins. Sure Jason Todd died, but after Tim met Batman: his mother was killed (which Batman tried and failed to stop), his father was paralyzed, [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames his girlfriend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath she got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis his father was killed]], [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his best friend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his stepmom was]] [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome presumably]] [[NeverFoundTheBody killed]], his other [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} best friend]] was killed ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis and his adoptive father was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]).still]]), and two of his three brothers have made repeated attempts on his life. It's no wonder he can be a little moody at times.
16th May '17 2:53:08 PM darkemyst
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* GhostShipping: With [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] after her death and before it was {{Retcon}}ed into her FakingTheDead and hiding out in Africa with Leslie.
26th Apr '17 1:47:06 AM darkemyst
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* BrokenBase: For Tim's Red Robin look: Condom head vs. Swan queen. Some feel the condom head look works because it takes inspiration from Batman and is just more practical, which reflects Tim's character. The swan queen look is liked for having some practicality in the cape. While nobody will say either is an amazing costume design, which one is better is up in the air.

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* BrokenBase: For Tim's Red Robin look: Condom head "Condom Head" vs. Swan queen."Swan Queen". Some feel the condom head look works because it takes inspiration from Batman and is just more practical, which reflects Tim's character. The swan queen look is liked for having some practicality in the cape. While nobody will say either is an amazing costume design, which one is better is up in the air.



* IronWoobie: Tim arguably has had the hardest life out of all the Robins. Sure Jason Todd died, but after Tim met Batman: his mother was killed (which Batman tried and failed to stop), his father was paralyzed, [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames his girlfriend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath she got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis his father was killed]], [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his best friend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis and his stepdad was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]). It's no wonder he can be a little moody at times.

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* IronWoobie: Tim arguably has had the hardest life out of all the Robins. Sure Jason Todd died, but after Tim met Batman: his mother was killed (which Batman tried and failed to stop), his father was paralyzed, [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames his girlfriend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath she got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis his father was killed]], [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his best friend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his stepmom was]] [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome presumably]] [[NeverFoundTheBody killed]], [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis and his stepdad adoptive father was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]). It's no wonder he can be a little moody at times.



* MyRealDaddy: Creator/ChuckDixon often gets this praise from Tim Drake fans, having defined the character, alongside a majority of the Batfamily as a whole, throughout the 90s and early 00s.



* ShipToShipCombat: Tim/Stephanie Brown fans versus Tim/Cassandra Cain fans versus Tim/Conner Kent fans.

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* ShipToShipCombat: [[OfficialCouple Tim/Stephanie Brown Brown]] fans versus [[BrotherSisterIncest Tim/Cassandra Cain Cain]] fans versus [[HoYay Tim/Conner Kent fans.Kent]] fans.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheComicBook/New52 's origin for Tim Drake is heavily criticized by many fans. Pre-boot, he was an intelligent, nice guy AudienceSurrogate with a non-athletic background who had the most "normal" upbringing of all the Robins and became Robin because he realized how important it was [[MoralityPet for Batman to have a Robin]]. In the TheComicBook/New52 continuity, he's an arrogant, friendless gymnast who has never been "Robin" and only ever been "Red Robin", he became Batman's sidekick because he wanted a challenge and his last name isn't really Drake.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: Tim Drake's two Red Robin costumes get this reaction from different segments of the fandom: the Pre-Flashpoint one has a cowl that sometimes gets called "Condom Head" and the overall look is reminiscent of older but sometimes forgotten character Doctor Midnight, but without anything to break up the black (Midnight had a crescent moon and green goggles). The New 52 version, meanwhile, is often seen as too busy, highly derivative, and is sometimes called the "Swan Princess" look. The former costume also extends to Dick Grayson and Jason Todd, given they both wore it, too (albeit in Dick's case, in the {{Elseworlds}} story ‘’Comicbook/KingdomCome’').
25th Apr '17 1:53:11 PM darkemyst
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* HoYay: With [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} Conner Kent]] for decades, starting in ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' when they were the mommy and the daddy of the team (Tim was the mommy). It got really weird when Conner died during ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', not only did Tim start dating Conner girlfriend Wonder Girl, but he tried to clone Conner. When Conner came back on his, not only did Tim give Conner a big hug and look happier than he had in years, but later on Conner said Tim would always be his Robin and Tim said Conner would always be his clone boy.

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* HoYay: With [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} Conner Kent]] for decades, starting in ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' when they were the mommy and the daddy TeamMom and TeamDad of the team (Tim was the mommy). team. It got really weird when after Conner died during ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', not only did Tim start dating Conner Conner's girlfriend Wonder Girl, but he also tried to clone Conner. When Conner came back on his, not only did After Conner's [[ComicBookDeath return]] Tim give Conner a big hug and look looked happier than he had in years, but years and later on [[HeterosexualLifePartners Conner said Tim Tim]] would always be his Robin and Tim said replied that Conner would always be his clone boy.
18th Mar '17 4:50:16 PM SarcasmKid
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* MemeticMutation: Marcus To was commissioned to do a sketch of Tim eating straight out of a bag of marshmallows. The fandom ran with this and came up with the idea that Tim is a stress-eater who particularly prefers marshmallows, and Marcus was commissioned to do a few other pieces involving Tim and marshmallows.
1st Feb '17 3:43:08 PM Mullon
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* HilariousInHindsight: In his first appearance Anarky had a copy on ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'' on his shelf. This was years before the movie came out and the whole Anonymous-Guy Fawkes mask-"We are legion" internet movement.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In one of his first appearance earliest appearances Anarky had a copy on ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'' on his shelf. This was years before the movie came out and the whole Anonymous-Guy Fawkes mask-"We are legion" internet movement.
1st Feb '17 11:37:17 AM Mullon
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* {{Narm}}: The name "Red Robin". Yes, it's a ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' ShoutOut... but it's also the name of a burger restaurant chain with a memorable ad campaign ("Reeeed Rooobin... yum!").

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* HoYay: With [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} Conner Kent]] for decades, starting in ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' when they were the mommy and the daddy of the team (Tim was the mommy). It got really weird when Conner died during ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', not only did Tim start dating Conner girlfriend Wonder Girl, but he tried to clone Conner. When Conner came back on his, not only did Tim give Conner a big hug and look happier than he had in years, but later on Conner said Tim would always be his Robin and Tim said Conner would always be his clone boy.
* HilariousInHindsight: In his first appearance Anarky had a copy on ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'' on his shelf. This was years before the movie came out and the whole Anonymous-Guy Fawkes mask-"We are legion" internet movement.
* IronWoobie: Tim arguably has had the hardest life out of all the Robins. Sure Jason Todd died, but after Tim met Batman: his mother was killed (which Batman tried and failed to stop), his father was paralyzed, [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames his girlfriend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath she got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis his father was killed]], [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis his best friend was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]), [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis and his stepdad was killed]] ([[ComicBookDeath he got better but still]]). It's no wonder he can be a little moody at times.
* {{Narm}}: The name "Red Robin". Yes, it's a ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' ShoutOut... but it's also the name of a burger restaurant chain with a memorable ad campaign ("Reeeed Rooobin... yum!").yum!").
* ShipToShipCombat: Tim/Stephanie Brown fans versus Tim/Cassandra Cain fans versus Tim/Conner Kent fans.
12th May '16 9:10:45 PM XSpectreGreyX
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* BrokenBase: For Tim's Red Robin look: Condom head vs. Swan queen. Some feel the condom head look works because it takes inspiration from Batman and is just more practical, which reflects Tim's character. The swan queen look is liked for having some practicality in the cape. While nobody will say either is an amazing costume design, which one is better is up in the air.



* {{Narm}}: The name "Red Robin". Yes, it's a ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' ShoutOut... but it's also the name of a burger restaurant chain with a memorable ad campaign ("Reeeed Rooobin... yum!").

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* {{Narm}}: The name "Red Robin". Yes, it's a ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' ShoutOut... but it's also the name of a burger restaurant chain with a memorable ad campaign ("Reeeed Rooobin... yum!").
15th Feb '16 9:16:28 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Vitoria, alias The Wanderer, from ''Red Robin'', was born in Brazil. As a young girl, she was abused by the men in the village. One day, while running from the men, she fell into a pit of venomous spiders. However, instead of dying, she gained the power to kill with a touch. After killing the men (which was justified), Vitoria murdered her mother, then went on a [[SerialKiller killing spree]] across South America, slaughtering people at random. When she grew bored with this, she recruited a band of likeminded [[PsychoForHire Psychos For Hire]], which she names the Council of Spiders, and attacked the League of Assassins for [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame sport]], butchering dozens of its members in the process, and caring not a whit for any innocents who got in the way. BuriedAlive after her plot failed, Vitoria [[UngratefulBastard killed the man who rescued her]], before announcing her intention of moving on from targeting assassins to targeting heroes.
13th Feb '16 9:08:34 PM GXNext
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*AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Tim's indifference to relationships, as well as him never falling for the HoneyPot has created a theory that he is the DC universe's first [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality Asexual]] character.
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