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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's ([[AllOfTheOtherReindeer and society in general]]) treatment of her was awful, and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
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** Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's ([[AllOfTheOtherReindeer and society in general]]) treatment of her was awful, and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
** Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's ([[AllOfTheOtherReindeer and society in general]]) treatment of her was awful, and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The final scene, [[spoiler:in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** The final scene, [[spoiler:in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
** The final scene, [[spoiler:in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
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** Also, this was the very last movie that Penny Marshall directed, before she too passed away 17 years later.
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* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially even college). In the time of the movie's setting, teenage pregnancy would earn someone the black sheep label as Bev's father did; but in the more modern times, many families are willing (sadly, not ''all'' families) to help raise the grandchild while the parent tackles multiple jobs or even balanced college.
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** Ray's not exactly off the hook, either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him, but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.\\
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends.\\
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.\\
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.\\
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.\\
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends.\\
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.\\
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.\\
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
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** Ray's not exactly off the hook, either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him, but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.\\
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends.\\
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.\\
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.\\
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.wanted.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.\\
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends.\\
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.\\
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.\\
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
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'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.\\
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'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.\\
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* WhatAnIdiot!:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.
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'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.
'''You'd expect''': That Beg would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/ or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends
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** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the
'''You'd expect''': That
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** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
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'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even
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* WhatAnIdiot!:
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.
'''You'd expect''': That Beg would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/ or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
** Bev giving the erotic poem she wrote to her crush at the party.
'''You'd expect''': That Beg would wait for her crush to be alone to give it to him, and/ or ask for his phone number to recite it to him privately.
'''Instead''': She gives the poem to him directly- while he's with a group of friends
'''The Result''': He reads the erotic poem out loud in front of his friends, thus humiliating Bev.
** Likewise, Bev and Fay leaving their kids out in the snowy yard, while they dry weed in the house.
'''You'd expect''': That Bev and Fay have their parents babysit their kids that afternoon, so that the kids would be supervised (and warm), and would not know anything about their mothers doing something illegal.
'''Instead''': They leave Jason and Amelia outside in the snow, and Bev's cop father comes by to give Jason his coat. Then Jason tells him about his mother drying weed.
'''The Result''': Both Bev and Fay are arrested, and Fay is bailed out by her brother who forces her and Amelia to move away with him to Arizona, promising to give them free housing- on the condition that she never talks to Bev again. And on top of that, Fay is forced to use the money that they earned (from the weed) to bail Bev out, thus plummeting Bev's dream even further.
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** Jason ending up in a relationship with Amelia- his best and closest friend since childhood, who understands what he's had to go through all those years. Bonus points since that their parents (Bev and Fay) have been close friends growing up as well.
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** Jason ending up in a relationship with Amelia- his best and closest friend since childhood, who understands what he's had to go through all those years. Bonus points since that their parents (Bev and Fay) have been close friends growing up as well.
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** While Bev certainly doesn't take motherhood gracefully, she still cares for her son, despite the fact that their relationship is difficult. On his 7th birthday, she gives him $20 (which was a lot at the time), since she wants him to be able to buy things that he likes for himself, and on top of that she writes him a card, which states "the plan for his future!"
** Jason ending up in a relationship with Amelia- his best and closest friend since childhood, who understands what he's had to go through all those years. Bonus points since that their parents (Bev and Fay) have been close friends growing up as well.
** Jason ending up in a relationship with Amelia- his best and closest friend since childhood, who understands what he's had to go through all those years. Bonus points since that their parents (Bev and Fay) have been close friends growing up as well.
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** Jason, while he is treated very harshly by his mother throughout his life, at times he too comes off as being rather bratty, especially when he rats both his mother and his best friend's mother out for drying weed (which they were only doing in order to sustain a better future, in spite of the fact that it was illegal).
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** Fay standing up for Bev during the wedding reception, where almost all of Bev's family members are there merely out of obligation, and clearly ashamed of her. While doing so, Fay even announces that she herself is also pregnant, and therefore shares her experiences of young motherhood with Bev, and continues to be the most loyal friend in Bev's life.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that Brittany Murphy and Skye Mccole Bartusiak both died very young in real life, simply makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that Brittany Murphy and Skye Mccole [=McCole=] Bartusiak both died very young in real life, simply makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The final scene, [[spoiler: in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially even College). In the time of the movie's setting, teenage pregnancy would earn someone the black sheep label as Bev's father did; but in the more modern times, many families are willing (sadly, not ALL families) to help raise the grandchild while the parent tackles multiple jobs or even balanced college.
* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially even College). In the time of the movie's setting, teenage pregnancy would earn someone the black sheep label as Bev's father did; but in the more modern times, many families are willing (sadly, not ALL families) to help raise the grandchild while the parent tackles multiple jobs or even balanced college.
* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The final scene, [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially evenCollege). college). In the time of the movie's setting, teenage pregnancy would earn someone the black sheep label as Bev's father did; but in the more modern times, many families are willing (sadly, not ALL ''all'' families) to help raise the grandchild while the parent tackles multiple jobs or even balanced college.
* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's[[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and ([[AllOfTheOtherReindeer and society in general)]] general]]) treatment of her was awful awful, and even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially even
* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's
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** Tommy, who obviously had a crush on Bev and only wanted better for her and for her to go to college (and had his whole role been so pointlessly thrown to the side, ''possibly'' could have made it more of a reality), was used so little that he may as well not even been included in the film. Instead, he was used as a quasi-other man that only Bev sort of cared about (plus, even though Jason was looking out for his mother, his flipping him off came off as more bratty than anything else.)
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
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** Tommy, who obviously had a crush on Bev and only wanted better for her and for her to go to college (and had his whole role been so pointlessly thrown to the side, ''possibly'' could have made it more of a reality), was used so little that he may as well not even been included in the film. Instead, he was used as a quasi-other man that only Bev sort of cared about (plus, even though Jason was looking out for his mother, his flipping him off came off as more bratty than anything else.)
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** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason evenlampshaded) lampshaded), and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
** Ray's not exactly off thehook hook, either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; him, but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
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** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even
** Ray's not exactly off the
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** Also, this was the very last movie that Penny Marshall directed, before she too passed away 16 years later.
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** Also, this was the very last movie that Penny Marshall directed, before she too passed away 16 17 years later.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that both Brittany Murphy and Skye Mccole Bartusiak both died very young just makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that both Brittany Murphy and Skye Mccole Bartusiak both died very young just in real life, simply makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that both Brittany Murphy and Skye McCole Bartusiak both died very young just makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that both Brittany Murphy and Skye McCole Mccole Bartusiak both died very young just makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The fact that both Brittany Murphy and Skye McCole Bartusiak both died very young just makes the scene of Fay and Amelia moving away much more heartbreaking.
** Also, this was the very last movie that Penny Marshall directed, before she too passed away 16 years later.
** Also, this was the very last movie that Penny Marshall directed, before she too passed away 16 years later.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The final scene, [[spoiler: in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The final scene, [[spoiler: in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
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** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
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** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.wanted.
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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living with Ray was difficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat Jason like she did and blame him for all her problems.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although she was a horrible mother to Jason and a real brat, her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living even if he was nice to her, she and Ray should have never been together.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Tina. So much more could have been done withRay her than to just display her as TheOneWhoMadeItOut, such as a spotlight on her own home life, her relationship with her boyfriend turned fiancé and a more developed reaction to her best friends' pregnancy. Since they didn't, she ended up being a SatelliteCharacter.
** Bobby, Faye's husband. So much more could have been done to give him characterization beyond just being the angry, passionate guy who, out of the blue, cheats on Faye once in Vietnam and dumps her.
** Tommy, who obviously had a crush on Bev and only wanted better for her and for her to go to college (and had his whole role been so pointlessly thrown to the side, ''possibly'' could have made it more of a reality), wasdifficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat used so little that he may as well not even been included in the film. Instead, he was used as a quasi-other man that only Bev sort of cared about (plus, even though Jason like she did and blame was looking out for his mother, his flipping him for all her problems.
off came off as more bratty than anything else.)
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** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
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** Tina. So much more could have been done with
** Bobby, Faye's husband. So much more could have been done to give him characterization beyond just being the angry, passionate guy who, out of the blue, cheats on Faye once in Vietnam and dumps her.
** Tommy, who obviously had a crush on Bev and only wanted better for her and for her to go to college (and had his whole role been so pointlessly thrown to the side, ''possibly'' could have made it more of a reality), was
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** As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
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*CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The final scene, [[spoiler: in which Bev reconciles with her father, as they both drive home together. What makes it all the more special is that they both sing along to the song "All I Have to do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers, just as they did at the beginning of the film]].
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* IdiotPlot: Deliberately invoked with DeliberateValuesDissonance: If Bev's father didn't isolate the family like she was the black sheep of the family for getting pregnant early on and was more supportive of them, Bev could have potentially have fared much better with Jason and could have possibly balanced family with work (potentially even College). In the time of the movie's setting, teenage pregnancy would earn someone the black sheep label as Bev's father did; but in the more modern times, many families are willing (sadly, not ALL families) to help raise the grandchild while the parent tackles multiple jobs or even balanced college.
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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living with Ray was difficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat Jason like she did and blame him for all her problems. After all, she chose to have sex in the first place with some random guy [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe just because he showed her some decency, right?]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living with Ray was difficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat Jason like she did and blame him for all her problems. After all, she chose to have sex in the first place with some random guy [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe just because he showed her some decency, right?]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case ofSmallNameBigEgo.SmallNameBigEgo.
** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of
** Ray's not exactly off the hook either. Ray may have come across as a likable guy, but he had his own issues he was never going to recover from and Bev, for all her faults and arrogance, knew down the line that Ray would have caused more harm than helped. Jason liked him; but that was only because Ray was going to let him do whatever he wanted.
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* JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living with Ray was difficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat Jason like she did and blame him for all her problems. After all, she chose to have sex in the first place with some random guy [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe just because he showed her some decency, right?]]right?]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As sad as Beverly's life has been, she comes off as pretty unlikable throughout the film. Aside from her foolish decisions and getting with a guy like Ray, she's pretty neglectful and emotionally abusive towards Jason, who preferred his father over her; he may have been a lazy addict, but he was more affectionate and sensitive with him. Also, [[NeverMyFault nothing in her life ever seemed to be her fault]] (which Jason even lampshaded) and she suffered from a huge case of SmallNameBigEgo.
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JerkassWoobie: Bev. Although her father's [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer (and society in general)]] treatment of her was awful and living with Ray was difficult, it still wasn't any excuse to treat Jason like she did and blame him for all her problems. After all, she chose to have sex in the first place with some random guy [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe just because he showed her some decency, right?]]
