History YMMV / RedFaction

16th Jan '17 11:09:38 AM ACW
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** ''Red Faction: Guerrilla'': [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] outstrips any of his fellow Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF loses faith in its current commander, [[BigBad General Bertram Roth]], Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.

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** ''Red Faction: Guerrilla'': [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] outstrips any of his fellow Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF loses faith in its current commander, [[BigBad General Bertram Roth]], Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress suppress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.



** ''Red Faction: Armageddon'': [[BigBad Adam Hale]], who also appears in the [[Film/RedFactionOrigins film]], was originally [[TheDragon the second-in-command]] to Stroller of the White Faction and a lover to Lyra Mason, before becoming a {{cult}} leader placing himself as a [[DarkMessiah messiah figure]]. An initial supporter of the White Faction's plot to start a war between the Red Faction and Marauders, overseeing the massacre of civilians. When Lyra realizes the truth of her past and leaves for her family, Hale's immediae reaction is to take control of the White Faction and order the destruction of the Teraformer, knowing it would render Mars virtually uninhabitable and not caring that Lyra could be a casualty; holding one of his men at gunpoint for hesitating the attack; and only stopped when Alec Mason [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself]] to destroy the dreadnought. By the time of ''Armageddon'', Hale reemerges twenty years later with a cult to his name, and succeeds in destroying the Teraformer causing widespread destruction, such as tornadoes and violent storms across the surface, forcing the people of Mars to colonize underground to survive. Learning of a ravenous alien race called the plague further beneath the surface, Hale has his cultists trick Alec's grandson [[PlayerCharacter Darius Mason]] into releasing the plague on the people of Mars, overrunning the colonists and killing multiple people. He later announces to his cult his plans to enslave these creatures as an army in his conquest. Originally raised to be a loyal soldier, Hale is ultimately a man motivated to claim his envisioned destiny of ruling Mars, with or without Lyra, and partially motivated by his hate for the Mason family, not caring who or how many have to die in the process.

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** ''Red Faction: Armageddon'': [[BigBad Adam Hale]], who also appears in the [[Film/RedFactionOrigins film]], was originally [[TheDragon the second-in-command]] to Stroller of the White Faction and a lover to Lyra Mason, before becoming a {{cult}} leader placing himself as a [[DarkMessiah messiah figure]]. An initial supporter of the White Faction's plot to start a war between the Red Faction and Marauders, overseeing the massacre of civilians. When Lyra realizes the truth of her past and leaves for her family, Hale's immediae immediate reaction is to take control of the White Faction and order the destruction of the Teraformer, knowing it would render Mars virtually uninhabitable and not caring that Lyra could be a casualty; holding one of his men at gunpoint for hesitating the attack; and only stopped when Alec Mason [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself]] to destroy the dreadnought. By the time of ''Armageddon'', Hale reemerges twenty years later with a cult to his name, and succeeds in destroying the Teraformer causing widespread destruction, such as tornadoes and violent storms across the surface, forcing the people of Mars to colonize underground to survive. Learning of a ravenous alien race called the plague further beneath the surface, Hale has his cultists trick Alec's grandson [[PlayerCharacter Darius Mason]] into releasing the plague on the people of Mars, overrunning the colonists and killing multiple people. He later announces to his cult his plans to enslave these creatures as an army in his conquest. Originally raised to be a loyal soldier, Hale is ultimately a man motivated to claim his envisioned destiny of ruling Mars, with or without Lyra, and partially motivated by his hate for the Mason family, not caring who or how many have to die in the process.
16th Jan '17 5:43:10 AM ACW
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** [[BigBad Axel Caypek]] from the first game is the [[MadScientist head of scientific research]] at the Ultor Corporation. To him, the lives of countless innocents were less important than his [[ForScience scientific curiosity]]. His experiments created mutants resulting from the animals and humans he tested on, unleashing a plague on Mars mines, killing and crippling innocent people, and awakening an alien race that he let kill his fellow scientists. When confronted by [[TheProtagonist Parker]], Caypek reveals there is a cure for the plague but refuses to reveal it for no reason other than spite; his last words being "[[OmnicidalManiac I hope you all die!]]". A vicious [[ItsAllAboutMe egomaniac]], Caypek dismisses the deaths of countless innocent people as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] from ''Guerrilla'' outstrips any of his fellow Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF loses faith in its current commander, [[BigBad General Bertram Roth]], Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.

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** ''Red Faction'' (the first game): [[BigBad Axel Caypek]] from the first game is the [[MadScientist head of scientific research]] at the Ultor Corporation. To him, the lives of countless innocents were less important than his [[ForScience scientific curiosity]]. His experiments created mutants resulting from the animals and humans he tested on, unleashing a plague on Mars mines, killing and crippling innocent people, and awakening an alien race that he let kill his fellow scientists. When confronted by [[TheProtagonist Parker]], Caypek reveals there is a cure for the plague but refuses to reveal it for no reason other than spite; his last words being "[[OmnicidalManiac I hope you all die!]]". A vicious [[ItsAllAboutMe egomaniac]], Caypek dismisses the deaths of countless innocent people as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
** ''Red Faction: Guerrilla'': [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] from ''Guerrilla'' outstrips any of his fellow Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF loses faith in its current commander, [[BigBad General Bertram Roth]], Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.place.
** ''Film/RedFactionOrigins'' has Stroller. See that page for more details.
** ''Red Faction: Armageddon'': [[BigBad Adam Hale]], who also appears in the [[Film/RedFactionOrigins film]], was originally [[TheDragon the second-in-command]] to Stroller of the White Faction and a lover to Lyra Mason, before becoming a {{cult}} leader placing himself as a [[DarkMessiah messiah figure]]. An initial supporter of the White Faction's plot to start a war between the Red Faction and Marauders, overseeing the massacre of civilians. When Lyra realizes the truth of her past and leaves for her family, Hale's immediae reaction is to take control of the White Faction and order the destruction of the Teraformer, knowing it would render Mars virtually uninhabitable and not caring that Lyra could be a casualty; holding one of his men at gunpoint for hesitating the attack; and only stopped when Alec Mason [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself]] to destroy the dreadnought. By the time of ''Armageddon'', Hale reemerges twenty years later with a cult to his name, and succeeds in destroying the Teraformer causing widespread destruction, such as tornadoes and violent storms across the surface, forcing the people of Mars to colonize underground to survive. Learning of a ravenous alien race called the plague further beneath the surface, Hale has his cultists trick Alec's grandson [[PlayerCharacter Darius Mason]] into releasing the plague on the people of Mars, overrunning the colonists and killing multiple people. He later announces to his cult his plans to enslave these creatures as an army in his conquest. Originally raised to be a loyal soldier, Hale is ultimately a man motivated to claim his envisioned destiny of ruling Mars, with or without Lyra, and partially motivated by his hate for the Mason family, not caring who or how many have to die in the process.
3rd Jan '17 4:30:19 AM Morgenthaler
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** Masako, the [[InformedAbility reportedly]] {{Badass}} leader of the [[PsychoForHire Mercs]] from the first game, is the last person you fight before the finale. She has a boss nanoshield as well as a custom rifle that kills you in 3 hits on Normal difficulty, as well as being the fastest enemy in the game once she loses her nanoshield. Still, she's no [[VideoGame/{{Doom}} Cyberdemon]] and goes down relatively quickly.

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** Masako, the [[InformedAbility reportedly]] {{Badass}} badass leader of the [[PsychoForHire Mercs]] from the first game, is the last person you fight before the finale. She has a boss nanoshield as well as a custom rifle that kills you in 3 hits on Normal difficulty, as well as being the fastest enemy in the game once she loses her nanoshield. Still, she's no [[VideoGame/{{Doom}} Cyberdemon]] and goes down relatively quickly.
28th Sep '16 6:02:12 AM Toybasher
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''side!''
28th Sep '16 5:59:53 AM Toybasher
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side! HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side! HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''
28th Sep '16 5:58:46 AM Toybasher
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. ''Wait, I'm on your side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''side! HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''
28th Sep '16 5:58:01 AM Toybasher
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. "Wait, I'm on your side!' "HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!"

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. "Wait, ''Wait, I'm on your side!' "HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!" side!'' ''HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!''
28th Sep '16 5:55:07 AM Toybasher
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The various Ultor Employees in the original ''Red Faction''. "Wait, I'm on your side!' "HHOURRAAUUUUUahghahaa!"
12th Aug '16 2:39:20 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* GameBreaker: In online multiplayer, the eponymous sledgehammer of ''Guerrilla''. There's a known bug in the game where the hammer's reach extends far beyond what it should ever be. Complaints filled the message board and the responses from the developers give only one concrete explanation for the phenomenon: TheyJustDidntCare. More charitably, online wasn't the main focus of development. Also Heal Packs: designed to keep you alive in the heat of combat by speeding up the rate you regenerate health, or [[TheJuggernaut as lot of players like to do, exploit its ability to make you invincible for its 30 second duration.]] There are also mods that include an assault rifle that shoots the explosions from singularity bombs.

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* GameBreaker: In online multiplayer, the eponymous sledgehammer of ''Guerrilla''. There's a known bug in the game where the hammer's reach extends far beyond what it should ever be. Complaints filled the message board and the responses from the developers give only one concrete explanation for the phenomenon: TheyJustDidntCare. More charitably, online wasn't the main focus of development. Also Heal Packs: designed to keep you alive in the heat of combat by speeding up the rate you regenerate health, or [[TheJuggernaut as lot of players like to do, exploit its ability to make you invincible for its 30 second duration.]] There are also mods that include an assault rifle that shoots the explosions from singularity bombs.
18th Jul '16 9:54:47 AM garthvader
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** The third game arguably more so: instead of underground, the game is now set on the surface which is mostly comprised of desert, Mars is now occupied, its valuable natural resources exploited and its population oppressed by the vastly technologically and numerically superior army of a superpower (which routinely engages in killing of civilians and torture of prisoners) and you play as the member of a group of "[[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters freedom fighters]]" committing several acts of terrorism against the occupying forces. In other words, you're playing as obvious stand-ins for [[http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/24/wot-i-think-red-faction-guerrilla/ Iraqi insurgents]].
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