History YMMV / RedFaction

3rd Feb '16 9:41:29 AM BlakeDiamond
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* GameBreaker: In online multiplayer, the eponymous sledgehammer of ''Guerrilla''. There's a known bug in the game where the hammer's reach extends far beyond what it should ever be. Complaints filled the message board and the responses from the developers give only one concrete explanation for the phenomenon: TheyJustDidntCare]. More charitably, online wasn't the main focus of development. Also Heal Packs: designed to keep you alive in the heat of combat by speeding up the rate you regenerate health, or [[TheJuggernaut as lot of players like to do, exploit its ability to make you invincible for its 30 second duration.]] There are also mods that include an assault rifle that shoots the explosions from singularity bombs.

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* GameBreaker: In online multiplayer, the eponymous sledgehammer of ''Guerrilla''. There's a known bug in the game where the hammer's reach extends far beyond what it should ever be. Complaints filled the message board and the responses from the developers give only one concrete explanation for the phenomenon: TheyJustDidntCare].TheyJustDidntCare. More charitably, online wasn't the main focus of development. Also Heal Packs: designed to keep you alive in the heat of combat by speeding up the rate you regenerate health, or [[TheJuggernaut as lot of players like to do, exploit its ability to make you invincible for its 30 second duration.]] There are also mods that include an assault rifle that shoots the explosions from singularity bombs.
29th Jan '16 4:57:35 PM nombretomado
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: The Major League Gaming Playlist in ''Guerrilla''. No Health Packs. No Remote Charges. No Rail Driver. No Handicapping. No Proximity Mines. No Vision Packs. [[spoiler: [[SuperSmashBrothers Fox Only. Final Destination.]]]]

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: The Major League Gaming Playlist in ''Guerrilla''. No Health Packs. No Remote Charges. No Rail Driver. No Handicapping. No Proximity Mines. No Vision Packs. [[spoiler: [[SuperSmashBrothers [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Fox Only. Final Destination.]]]]
24th Jan '16 7:06:02 PM hamza678
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* FranchiseKiller: People generally really enjoyed ''Guerilla.'' The franchise seemed quite revived. Then came ''Armageddon'' which abandoned the "rebels fighting oppression" recurring storyline for a generic BugWar plot, threw out the WideOpenSandbox of its predecessor for a linear third-person shooter game, and the ability to destroy terrain was often a ''detriment'' as you'd destroy critical paths and need to rebuild them constantly with the nanoforge. The game wasn't really ''bad'' but it was certainly not what anyone was hoping for and it sold so poorly that THQ said they no longer have plans for more Red Faction games for now. They said that about Red Faction 2, as well....
** This likely contributed to Koch Media ''not'' buying the rights to Red Faction along with Volition.
2nd Aug '15 11:47:38 PM EternalRain
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** This was ''originally'' the case with the PC port of ''Red Faction: Guerrilla" (see PolishPort for how it is now). The PC port was very buggy and prone to random crashes, the DirectX 10 graphics mode would really slow the game down and make crashing more frequent, used the dreaded Games for Windows Live DRM, and the PC version was barely patched during its years under THQ and Volition.

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** This was ''originally'' the case with the PC port of ''Red Faction: Guerrilla" (see PolishPort PolishedPort for how it is now). The PC port was very buggy and prone to random crashes, the DirectX 10 graphics mode would really slow the game down and make crashing more frequent, used the dreaded Games for Windows Live DRM, and the PC version was barely patched during its years under THQ and Volition.
2nd Aug '15 9:52:30 PM EternalRain
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* PortingDisaster:
** Though actually a pretty polished port for the most part (it supports widescreen resolutions out of the gate, a rarity for a game of its age, and runs really well on most all modern computers), the PC version of ''Red Faction II'' is missing one major aspect: multiplayer. For some reason the multiplayer is only present in the console versions of the game, while PC players are left out. A very strange omission too given the first game had online multiplayer on PC.
** This was ''originally'' the case with the PC port of ''Red Faction: Guerrilla" (see PolishPort for how it is now). The PC port was very buggy and prone to random crashes, the DirectX 10 graphics mode would really slow the game down and make crashing more frequent, used the dreaded Games for Windows Live DRM, and the PC version was barely patched during its years under THQ and Volition.
*PolishedPort:
** How the PC version of ''Red Faction: Guerrilla'' is ''now''. When the ''Red Faction'' IP switched over to Nordic Games, Nordic began releasing a series of patches for the PC release to finally fix what Volition never did. The hated Games for Windows Live DRM was removed and replaced by Steamworks (along with all multiplayer servers being switched to Steam), a new DirectX 11 graphics option was added which allowed players to use all the graphical improvements of the DirectX 10 mode (such as sun rays and ambient occlusion) without the major performance loss, many bug fixes to make the game much less crash prone (though it's not quite crash proof yet), and to top it all off they released a series of new multiplayer and Wrecking Crew maps for free.
12th Mar '15 2:35:37 PM ACW
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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] outstrips any of the Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in its current commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.

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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] from ''Guerrilla'' outstrips any of the his fellow Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses loses faith in its current commander, [[BigBad General Roth, Bertram Roth]], Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.
20th Jan '15 6:54:37 AM ACW
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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRupper Kobel]] outstrips any of the Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in its current commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.

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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRupper [[GeneralRipper Kobel]] outstrips any of the Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in its current commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.
18th Jan '15 4:29:15 AM ACW
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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral Lucious Kobel]] outstrips any of the Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in its current commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.

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** [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral Admiral]] Lucious [[GeneralRupper Kobel]] outstrips any of the Earth Defense Force in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in its current commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to supress the Red Faction rebellion for good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and he set out with a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel cared not for the civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicates he arranged the entire situation to [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the first place.
17th Jan '15 2:49:17 PM ACW
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** MadScientist Axel Capek of the first game was the head of scientific research at the Ultor Corporation who created [[EvilutionaryBiologist mutants by experimenting on animals and people alike]]. Capek [[ForScience tested his scientific curiosity]] by unleashing a plague on the Mars miners that crippled and killed many innocents. A vicious egomaniac, Capek dismissed the deaths of all the innocents he was responsible for as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
** Lucius Kobel of ''Guerilla'' outstrips any of his fellows in cruelty. When the Earth Defense Force loses faith in their current commanders, Kobel is sent in to suppress the Red Faction rebellion for good and all. Civilian casualties were unimportant and Kobel set about with an attack that had one goal: start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars. Beginning a bombardment on Mars, Kobel called the civilians "expendable" and indicated he had arranged the entire situation simply to seize command from the previous commander.

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** MadScientist **[[BigBad Axel Capek of Caypek]] from the first game was is the [[MadScientist head of scientific research research]] at the Ultor Corporation who created [[EvilutionaryBiologist mutants by experimenting on animals and people alike]]. Capek Corporation. To him, the lives of countless innocents were less important than his [[ForScience tested his scientific curiosity]] by curiosity]]. His experiments created mutants resulting from the animals and humans he tested on, unleashing a plague on the Mars miners mines, killing and crippling innocent people, and awakening an alien race that crippled and killed many innocents. he let kill his fellow scientists. When confronted by [[TheProtagonist Parker]], Caypek reveals there is a cure for the plague but refuses to reveal it for no reason other than spite; his last words being "[[OmnicidalManiac I hope you all die!]]". A vicious egomaniac, Capek dismissed [[ItsAllAboutMe egomaniac]], Caypek dismisses the deaths of all the innocents he was responsible for countless innocent people as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
** Lucius Kobel of ''Guerilla''
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**[[InsaneAdmiral Admiral Lucious Kobel]]
outstrips any of his fellows in cruelty. When the Earth Defense Force loses in cruelty, having previously used his warship, the Hydra, to annihilate Central Asian rebels. When EDF looses faith in their its current commanders, commander, General Roth, Kobel is sent in sent, [[EvenEvilHasStandards as a last resort]], to suppress supress the Red Faction rebellion for good and all. Civilian good. Despite given orders to avoid any unnecessary damage, civilian casualties were unimportant to Kobel, and Kobel he set about out with an attack that had one goal: a plan of his own: [[SocialDarwinist to start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars. Beginning Mars]]. Using the Hydra to start a bombardment on Mars, Kobel called cared not for the civilians "expendable" civilians, declaring them expendable, and indicated indicates he had arranged the entire situation simply to seize command [[TheStarscream take control from Roth]] in the previous commander. first place.
19th Apr '14 12:12:56 PM ACW
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* MadScientist Axel Capek of the first game was the head of scientific research at the Ultor Corporation who created [[EvilutionaryBiologist mutants by experimenting on animals and people alike]]. Capek [[ForScience tested his scientific curiosity]] by unleashing a plague on the Mars miners that crippled and killed many innocents. A vicious egomaniac, Capek dismissed the deaths of all the innocents he was responsible for as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
* Lucius Kobel of ''Guerilla'' outstrips any of his fellows in cruelty. When the Earth Defense Force loses faith in their current commanders, Kobel is sent in to suppress the Red Faction rebellion for good and all. Civilian casualties were unimportant and Kobel set about with an attack that had one goal: start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars. Beginning a bombardment on Mars, Kobel called the civilians "expendable" and indicated he had arranged the entire situation simply to seize command from the previous commander.

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* MadScientist **MadScientist Axel Capek of the first game was the head of scientific research at the Ultor Corporation who created [[EvilutionaryBiologist mutants by experimenting on animals and people alike]]. Capek [[ForScience tested his scientific curiosity]] by unleashing a plague on the Mars miners that crippled and killed many innocents. A vicious egomaniac, Capek dismissed the deaths of all the innocents he was responsible for as nothing more than a stepping stone to progress.
* Lucius **Lucius Kobel of ''Guerilla'' outstrips any of his fellows in cruelty. When the Earth Defense Force loses faith in their current commanders, Kobel is sent in to suppress the Red Faction rebellion for good and all. Civilian casualties were unimportant and Kobel set about with an attack that had one goal: start fresh and exterminate all life on Mars. Beginning a bombardment on Mars, Kobel called the civilians "expendable" and indicated he had arranged the entire situation simply to seize command from the previous commander.
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