History YMMV / RealmOfTheElderlings

19th Jan '18 5:25:11 AM Figaro
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Forged Ones are [[TechnicallyLivingZombie superficially human Monsters from the Id]] who have been stripped of all [[LackOfEmpathy empathy]] and compassion and [[TheHedonist maraud their way across the countryside for their own short term gratification]]. Creator/GarthEnnis would take this concept UpToEleven with the titular antagonists of ComicBook/{{Crossed}}.
*** ''Fool's Fate'' reveals that [[spoiler:there is a way to restore those who have been Forged: destroy the Stone Dragon into which they were fed. Unfortunately this is much too late for the hundreds or maybe even thousands of innocent Six Duchies citizens Forged during the Red Ship War and [[MercyKill mercy killed]] by Fitz and others during the first trilogy.]]
* HoYay: Between Fitz and the Fool, which starts at a small scale in ''Royal Assassin.'' But the smaller moments in ''Royal Assassin'' turn into much bigger and obvious instances in ''Assassin's Quest''.
** Most obviously when they see each other again. The Fool practically falls over himself to hug him since he's just so glad that Fitz is alive. For a while after, the Fool isn't so teasing to Fitz either, and also gets more protective of him.
** It doesn't help that Fitz is apparently "the Catalyst" [[spoiler:and the Fool is the White Prophet, and is determined to follow him.]]
** Starling outright says that the Fool is in love with him. [[spoiler:She also says that the Fool is a woman, so their relationship could be ShipTease instead. Maybe.]]

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The Forged Ones are [[TechnicallyLivingZombie superficially human Monsters from the Id]] who have been stripped of all [[LackOfEmpathy empathy]] and compassion and [[TheHedonist maraud their way across the countryside for their own short term gratification]]. Creator/GarthEnnis would take this concept UpToEleven with the titular antagonists of ComicBook/{{Crossed}}.
*** ** ''Fool's Fate'' reveals that [[spoiler:there is a way to restore those who have been Forged: destroy the Stone Dragon into which they were fed. Unfortunately this is much too late for the hundreds or maybe even thousands of innocent Six Duchies citizens Forged during the Red Ship War and [[MercyKill mercy killed]] by Fitz and others during the first trilogy.]]
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Between Fitz and the Fool, which starts at a small scale in ''Royal Assassin.'' But the smaller moments in ''Royal Assassin'' turn into much bigger and obvious instances in ''Assassin's Quest''.
** *** Most obviously when they see each other again. The Fool practically falls over himself to hug him since he's just so glad that Fitz is alive. For a while after, the Fool isn't so teasing to Fitz either, and also gets more protective of him.
** *** It doesn't help that Fitz is apparently "the Catalyst" [[spoiler:and the Fool is the White Prophet, and is determined to follow him.]]
** *** Starling outright says that the Fool is in love with him. [[spoiler:She also says that the Fool is a woman, so their relationship could be ShipTease instead. Maybe.]]



* TheScrappy: Starling is presented as a strong, independent, EthicalSlut, and the [[BettyAndVeronica Veronica counterpart]] to Molly. She's an arrogant Jerkass who's interested in Fitz mostly for the legend she can write about his actions [[spoiler:so she sells the information of the daughter that he desperately wanted to keep away from royal politics, just so she could follow him on his search for Verity.]] She stays enormously self-centered until a good way through the Tawny Man books.
** Molly herself, for some, comes as selfish and [[spoiler: lied about not being pregnant]].

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Starling is presented as a strong, independent, EthicalSlut, and the [[BettyAndVeronica Veronica counterpart]] to Molly. She's an arrogant Jerkass who's interested in Fitz mostly for the legend she can write about his actions [[spoiler:so she sells the information of the daughter that he desperately wanted to keep away from royal politics, just so she could follow him on his search for Verity.]] She stays enormously self-centered until a good way through the Tawny Man books.
** * Molly herself, for some, comes as selfish and [[spoiler: lied about not being pregnant]].




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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Hap isn't the most interesting character necessarily but his relationship with Fitz isn't given nearly as much attention as this troper always felt it should be. He is presented to Fitz by Starling at the end of ''Assassin's Quest'', with no explanation of who he is or where he came from, but with every indication that there is something significant about the child. A subplot in ''The Tawny Man'' follows Fitz's attempts to find him a job and stop him from ruining his life via an ill-advised romance, but really, you could completely remove him from the story and it wouldn't affect anything. He is further DemotedToExtra in ''Fitz and the Fool'', being mentioned only a couple of times and barely figuring in Fitz's thoughts, despite being his ''son'' to all intents and purposes, and his only human companion for over ''ten years'' of his life.
29th Sep '17 3:45:24 AM Figaro
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*** ''Fool's Fate'' reveals that [[spoiler:there is a way to restore those who have been Forged: destroy the Stone Dragon into which they were fed. Unfortunately this is much too late for the hundreds or maybe even thousands of innocent Six Duchies citizens Forged during the Red Ship War and [[MercyKill mercy killed]] by Fitz and others during the first trilogy.]]
23rd Jul '17 4:50:55 PM CrowTR0bot
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Forged Ones are [[TechnicallyLivingZombie superficially human Monsters from the Id]] who have been stripped of all [[LackOfEmpathy empathy]] and compassion and [[TheHedonist maraud their way across the countryside for their own short term gratification]]. Creator/GarthEnnis would take this concept UpToEleven with the titular antagonists of ComicBook/{{Crossed}}.
17th Feb '17 4:10:49 PM Derkhan
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The Pale Lady]] is TheManBehindTheMan for almost every bad thing that's happened in the ''Farseer Trilogy'', as she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. As ''The Tawny Man'' trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging; she loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. In addition, she would ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her [[TheHeavy Heavy]]. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational TortureTechnician as well. When Kebal Rawbread [[YouHaveFailedMe failed her]], she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him [[ImAHumanitarian body parts]] of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. Her sole motivation was [[ApocalypseHow the complete collapse of civilization]].


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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The Pale Lady]] is TheManBehindTheMan for almost every bad thing that's happened in the ''Farseer Trilogy'', as she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. As ''The Tawny Man'' trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging; she loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. In addition, she would ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her [[TheHeavy Heavy]]. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational TortureTechnician as well. When Kebal Rawbread [[YouHaveFailedMe failed her]], she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him [[ImAHumanitarian body parts]] of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. Her sole motivation was [[ApocalypseHow the complete collapse of civilization]].
15th Jan '17 1:52:22 PM creader
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* TearJerker: The first book ends on one, second book ends on a ''big'' one, THE ENTIRE THIRD BOOK IS ONE.
** The quiet moment in ''Royal Assassin'' where Fitz realizes that he has nothing outside of his service and obedience to the King.
---> '''Patience:''' Fitz? What will you do?
---> '''Fitz:''' What I am told. When have I ever done otherwise?
** Fitz meets Hands again in ''Assassin's Quest [[spoiler:and Hands turns away from him, disgusted, since Fitz's possession of the Wit has been revealed by now.]]
** [[spoiler:Verity and Kettricken being separated again, just not long after they've been reunited. The reunion wasn't all that heartwarming either; Verity could scarcely remember Kettricken, or feel anything else for that matter.]]
** The Fool and his quiet devotion to King Shrewd is absolutely heartbreaking in the second book as [[spoiler:Shrewd is dying. The Fool is possibly the only one who loves the king as a person, rather than just as the king, and he has to watch Shrewd become sick and feeble and senseless.]] Essentially, if the Fool is crying, you're crying.
28th Aug '16 9:37:11 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The Pale Lady]] is TheManBehindTheMan for almost every bad thing that's happened in the ''Farseer Trilogy'', as she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. As ''The Tawny Man'' trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging; she loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. In addition, she would ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her [[TheHeavy Heavy]]. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational TortureTechnician as well. When Kebal Rawbread [[YouHaveFailedMe failed her]], she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him [[ImAHumanitarian body parts]] of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. Her sole motivation was [[ApocalypseHow the complete collapse of civilization]].
17th Aug '16 9:38:50 AM Silverblade2
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* CompleteMonster: The Pale Lady. She's TheManBehindTheMan for almost every bad thing that's happened in the ''Farseer Trilogy'' - she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. And as ''The Tawny Man'' trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging - loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. One particular thing was that she'd ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her [[TheHeavy Heavy]]. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational TortureTechnician as well. When Kebal Rawbread [[YouHaveFailedMe failed her]], she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him [[ImAHumanitarian body parts]] of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. And her motivation for all of this? The complete collapse of civilization. And we never even find out why she wanted that.
1st Jun '16 5:36:13 PM McJeff
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* CompleteMonster: The Pale Lady. She's TheManBehindTheMan for almost every bad thing that's happened in the ''Farseer Trilogy'' - she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. And as ''The Tawny Man'' trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging - loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. One particular thing was that she'd ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her [[TheHeavy Heavy]]. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational TortureTechnician as well. When Kebal Rawbread [[YouHaveFailedMe failed her]], she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him [[ImAHumanitarian body parts]] of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. And her motivation for all of this? The complete collapse of civilization. And we never even find out why she wanted that.



* TearJerker - Late in ''Fool's Errand'' and in ''Fool's Fate''.

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* TearJerker - TearJerker: Late in ''Fool's Errand'' and in ''Fool's Fate''.
16th Nov '14 4:57:38 AM GothicProphet
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* TheWoobie: Relpda in Dragon Haven's first part.

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* TheWoobie: Relpda in Dragon Haven's first part.part.
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19th Jul '14 8:09:21 PM Silverblade2
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%% Regal isn't a CompleteMonster because he loved his mother. That's enough to disqualify him.
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